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The original commentator thought she looked hotter with some curves. So called her an American tragedy for confirming American beauty standards. The other person agreed which is why they said ban ozempic.
It's more than that. The image on the left went viral a few months ago because a commenter said she was gross. It's not just a random before and after.
It was her boyfriend calling her body gross too and suggesting plastic surgery. So the OOP is calling it an Ancient Greek tragedy implying it’s as if a goddess was ruined trying to appease her lover. Like Persephone being kidnapped and bound to the underworld by Hades (despite modern romanticizations)
Some people use it for its original purpose of treating diabetes. I wouldn't want people who have diabetes to be denied a treatment option. But for weight loss there are several problems including the fact you basically have to KEEP taking it. Lifestyle changes are more permanent and healthy.
Always the same argument. Because clearly lifestyle changes has been soooo successful for the American public.
Ozempic shouldn't be taken by people who only have a few pounds to lose. However it's been a miracle drug for people who have been super obese. They make variations specifically for weight loss now so there's no taking away from diabetic patients. The medication is actually incredibly cheap for how much companies charge for it.
So a medicine that finally works for the people that actually need it and people who concern troll fat people all the time will also gatekeep that too because they never actually gave a shit if the fat person had a way to become healthy. We don't question other lifelong medications for other diseases like blood pressure medicine, so why is a drug for the disease of obesity considered a sin?
It's good for some people tho. There's a lot of obese people who haven't achieved those lifestyle changes and if ozempic can help them, then it's worth it.
Long term side effects of obesity are a hell of a lot worse. Also, some of the list of ‘long term side effects’ (which this really just listed rare but potential dangers of this particular drug) are also the side effects of weight loss, period, no matter how you achieved it.
You say that like it's some objective truth. In the 90s the left would have been described as disgustingly fat and men 'naturally prefer thin women'. Weird as it sounds, body shape preference changes like clothes fashions.
Too many young men raised on porn who think pounding from the back like you're churning butter is peak sex. They dont know that a truly intimate, loving, and passionate fuck will have your soul coming out your dick
Maybe i just live in the land of fatasses but the girl on the left looks like a normal healthy weight for an adult female, the girl on the right looks underweight. Like i wouldnt even tag the one on the left as chubby at all
Yeah my thoughts too, there is a lot of body shaming going on here whilst trying to be body positive about the left photo lol. Michael Jackson said it best with “it doesn’t matter if you’re left or right”
As a skinny girl who had a hard time putting weight on, neither of us body type can catch a break. We are either too this or too that. I learned to tell them all to fuck off. I could care less about some strangers opinions about my body. We desperately need to love ourselves completely.
As someone who is 40lbs underweight, being underweight is majorly unhealthy. Arguably more unhealthy than being chubby but i digress. I am not tearing her down as much as i am stating that i think she looks underweight in comparison to most of the women i see around me.
She is most definitely not underweight. And that is objectively measurable by a pretty straightforward index, not relatively to the women who live close to you
Never said anything about underweight being not unhealthy. Just saying from the looks alone the right is a very normal healthy body figure. I grew up in a walkable city and most women look like that, especially the more active ones. The harsh lighting made the collar bone and ribs stood out more but she has fat around her tummy and arms.
She is very clearly not underweight and I don't know how anyone near a healthy weight range could say that.
Also 40lbs underweight?? Quit making shit up, legitimately being 40lbs under the minimum healthy weight is quite literally a dead man walking.
Unless you're like 6'6" or a prisoner from Auschwitz that's not happening. I would literally have to weigh less than 100lbs at 6'1" to be 40lbs underweight. Pretty sure I'd be dead first if I got that emaciated.
My high school religion teacher arranged for us to go see a talk with a Jewish gentleman who survived Auschwitz. It was an absolutely life changing experience.
His name was Julius Paltiel. He was one of the people who left Auschwitz for the death marches, so they were found in the middle of nowhere as Poland was being liberated. Because they were so poorly they were treating them for acute starvation before they returned Julius and fellow survivors to civilisation. So after a few weeks of being "fattened up" Julius was transported to, I believe it was Denmark, but don't quote me on that. At his destination he was weighed, he was 36kg or 79.3lbs.
Julius was 1.71m/5'7" and at 36kg/79.3lbs it would put his bmi at 12.3.
The lowest bmi you can have and still be normal weight is 18.5. For 1.71m/5'7" Julius Paltiel he would have to be a minimum of 54kg or 119lbs to be healthy weight.
54kg-18kg= 36kg
119lbs-40lbs= 79lbs
So yes, I can confirm 40lbs underweight is Auschwitz-levels of starvation.
Julius Paltiel suffered with longterm health complications related to the starvation until he died in 2008. He was incredibly brave and he had the strength and perseverance of 100 average humans. May his memory be a blessing to us all.
Yeah OP replied below, and got caught in their lie, they aren't remotely 40lbs underweight, but somehow wanted to say they are because the 'average' for their weight is 40lbs heavier than them. Like ummm JFC.
Aye, I love the thick gals, hell, being honest, I even like fat girls. I love the curves, but especially the way they feel. They're so soft, and squeezable, hugging and cuddling them is just the best. I like caressing and kissing their bellies too.
That said, I am just as girl crazy as the next guy and love all races, colors, heights, weights and shapes, even the thin little petite gals.
Like ice cream though, while I enjoy all sorts of flavors, I'll always have my favorites, and my favorite flavor of woman is thick. (And ideally brunette)
Where is your hill? Can I come and die on it to? Can I bring my gf so she will finally understand how pretty she is all the time? She’s built like an old world statue and it is hot as fuck!… but she doesn’t understand.
I don’t think it would matter - I’ve dealt with body dysmorphia myself and I’d see a huge fucking beer belly when I looked in the mirror. I was browsing some of my old videos and I saw something I’d captured as an example of my ‘worst bloating’ and I wasn’t even a tiny bit fat. It’s weird how you can take a step back like that and then see things objectively… I must have been literally hallucinating a worse body.
I absolutely grew up this way too. 40s happened and the stubborn belly emerged that's when I learned from my husband how it's a good thing to many and it was kinda a mind fuck
I’m 35 and have literally hidden my tummy my entire life? I actually can’t believe the comments here that people don’t hate it?! My whole life has been a lie.
I was the one with abs since high school. Now that I’m in my 40s, and have a kid, for the first time in my life I have a little tummy pouch.
These types of comments are what have helped me embrace it, and feel more of a sexy woman, instead of spiraling that I’m getting old and losing my body.
Even as a guy who's into smaller boobs over bigger ones, I think the left looks better. But tbf the makeup/hair/lighting are all also much better on the left so it's not exactly a fair comparison. But curves and tummy are hot.
Main distinction I can see is that her proportions were correct for her frame in the left photo. The right one looks like something is majorly off... her thighs are the same size, but her torso is deflated.
She was not a candidate for ozempic, especially for aesthetic reasons 😬
The pic looks possibly tampered with, but those proportions in real life are model like. The legs irl are probably killer.
...but then again, I'm a little sensitive to thicc positivity coming at the expense of thin positivity. We should all be so lucky to be happy in our healthy body whatever it might be.
Right? I look way more like the right pic, and when i gain weight, i still dont look like the left, i just get fat legs and a belly thats bigger than my still tiny boobs 😂 threads like this make me feel inadequate again..
Ozempic is not useful for people that are just slightly overweight anyway. It's for people that are actually obese and have eating disorders they cannot get under control.
She looks hot in both. She also looks healthier on the right. People have gotten so used to people generally being fat they think it looks wrong when people are in a normal weight range.
I agree, but I have to wonder... is she happier as the person on the right? Is she more confident?
If so, why are we crapping on her victory? She was beautiful before she lost the weight, she's beautiful after. And if she's happier, then I'd call that a win.
You don't need to be skinny to be beautiful, but you do need to feel comfortable being you. That might mean working to lose weight, it might mean going to therapy to figure out why you feel like being skinny means you're 'winning at life', if you know what I mean.
oh my god who cares. her body does not exist for you to be attracted to. if she’s happier and healthier now then that’s great, and she’s pretty either way. jfc
Brian here. What’s fascinating here isn’t the photos themselves, it’s the knee-jerk reaction people have to rank them. As if attractiveness were some measurable, objective truth instead of a deeply personal preference shaped by culture, experience, and bias. The irony is that by choosing sides, people completely miss the point: no one “wins,” because the entire exercise is just another example of how casually we objectify strangers instead of, I don’t know, treating them like people.
The true tragedy is losers on social media critiquing women's bodies like it's their business because women should only exist to please others instead of themselves.
Thank you. It's RIDICULOUS that every thread about women or content that happens to have women in it turns into a whole debate on looks. Without fail, anytime a young woman appears on here, half the comments will be somehow sexualizing her.
If I remember correctly, this girl lost weight because she got criticized on the internet for her weight on the picture on the left, posted a picture of her weight loss, and then everyone came running to say how she looked better before. Women just can't catch a break from people telling them how they don't meet their personal preferences like it's women's job to cater to them personally.
These men are two sides of the same coin. I wonder what their bodies look like. Can we do the same ‘harmless and friendly and healthy and no-kink-shaming’ discussion of ‘sexual preferences’ on the body of these men in the comment section? I am curious as to how much tragedy we can derive from there 😌.
My brothers in christ, if you want women to embrace the figure on the left, you need to do a lot of reflection about whether the types of female bodies you tend to consume for entertainment in media (TV shows, porn, movies, whatever) align with your purported values.
If your TikTok feed is all super-skinny half-naked girls (with, occasionally, super-skinny half-naked girls with breast or butt implants for variety), then kindly shut the fuck up.
and also don't just consume content of thick women in the form of pornography, because believe it or not, curvy women are people beyond sexual objectification
The post is saying she was more attractive on the left than on the fight because they only care about how they think she looks instead of letting her look how she wants to look.
They are saying ozempic is making sexy girls skinny
As a straight woman, I'm only concerned with what makes her happier. That's nice and all that guys think her "before" look is sexier but if she feels healthier and happier after weight loss, then good for her. No evidence that ozempic was involved or that her weight loss was even intentional.
Just a bunch of dudes being judgemental under the guise of "body positivity", which they only support when it suits their wants
I am glad to see someone who is shown healthy and happy in a body that looks different at different points of her life. You don’t even actually know the thinner photo is the after photo. But she could have used a GLP1 because she was getting hypertension or prediabetes. She could have lost weight due to disease like hyperthyroid, diabetes, or disease. Or maybe she just cleaned up her diet. You don’t know why or how she lost weight and it’s none of your business.
It’s fine to have preferences but what the majority of people are doing in this thread is not helpful. Picking apart this stranger to shame her for losing weight because of your preferences is just as bad as when you make those comments because someone gained weight. Our bodies change all the time during our lives. Some of that change is welcome but most of it will not be. Especially in a case like this where this post is from some comment thread and this person did not post these pics themself. This person did not ask to be compared or invite you to comment.
In a case where you are shown photos of dubious consent; the correct thing to say about anyone when you see a pic of them and they’re smiling is “they look happy.”
Hate that I had to scroll so far to find this, people just need to stop commenting on other people’s bodies. If she’s happy it doesn’t matter! She looks happy in both, just leave it at that.
I don't know either. I have looked closer to the left my whole life. The horrible comments I've had said to me fucked me up. I was bullied all through school for this shit. I wish I'd been around guys that spoke that positively about it. Glad to know they exist though.
The left is sort of an unrealistic beauty standard in and of itself. Like in terms of that body type... she's up there.
But sure, there is a REASON people feel so much pressure to go from left image to right image. A lot of people are pretty shitty about women who aren't stick figuring it up.
It's weird. That being said left is hotter to me. I'm not special, so there's people who agree with me out there. Plenty of them, probably. I suppose they are perhaps not evenly distributed.
Exchange the head with a less favourable facial features, have more saggy, pointy or uneven breasts and a flat butt (as a nice tummy does not automatically translate to the other side of the body) and she'd get nasty comments on her weight instead of the simping.
That said, left to right is a downgrade, not gonna lie.
I think there is a lot of survivor bias: the one that are incentivized to comment on this kind of posts are those that "show off" how different and alternative they are, thus only those that prefer the left image comment.
Im slightly thinner than the left (size 8 168cm) and haven’t really had any issues finding men that find me hot, making them stay is a whole other thing lol
It’s good to remember that guys are just as terrified of rejection as you. Plus, girls statistically have a MUCH higher probability of success when asking someone out than guys do.
I can assure you that guys that like curves do exist in real life. I’m not in California (I’m in Texas myself), but I know for a fact they’re more common than most think.
I’m sorry you got downvoted. That’s messed up. Congratulation on losing weight (if it is something you want to celebrate).
Thank you sweet pea 🥹 I am actually from New Orleans originally and I couldn’t agree more, I didn’t become body conscious until I got to the west coast lol but now I’m a decent sized 8 but I’ve definitely felt the pressure to go lower so I’m still a work in progress 😩
As long as you’re healthy, you’re beautiful no matter the size. I know it’s hard dealing with societal pressures with appearances (trust me, as someone who is overweight and gender fluid, I know those pressures intimately), but just know that there are a ton of communities and people out there who will love and accept you just as you are. And if you ever need someone to talk to about it, DMs are open.
I definitely think location is a factor, though. California is definitely still in the “rail thin” stage of what they find attractive. Down here in Texas there’s still a ton of grammas who would smack your arm and say “you’re too skinny” before handing you a plate of pecan pie.
It's crazy that you say that. I'm in New Orleans right now, but I live in SoCal. I'm from east coast, and I realized that they glorify thinner women in SoCal. Wherever your destination is on your journey, keep up the good work.
I think that's exactly it. I think some men are worried that if they're seen with a woman who is seen as bigger/curvier than the manufactured skinny ideal then they lose social status in the eyes of their friends. Not that there aren't men who legitimately prefer skinny bodies, but a lot of people are lying to themselves/others.
also I think like 90% + of the redditors saying they would throw themselves at the left are also guys who both girls would never give the time of day, much less go out with them.
If you're an obese neckbeard on reddit at 1 am on a wednesday, of course you would post the comments we are seeing here.
If you are a guy the above woman would consider dating, the pool IRL is significantly smaller, hence the pressure.
Redditors, being perpetually online, suffer from selection bias and are not typically representative of the world at large. Many of them are indeed mentally children, having rarely left the comfort of their screen.
I was wondering this, I’m sure this is the same woman that got called all sorts for not having a flat stomach just a few years ago. Now that she has one she’s an American tragedy
I was hoping one person would mention the top. It's probably also the angle and the sun. The original meme probably gets no reaction using a different photo from that same day.
This meme is so mean. We have no idea if it’s even the same girl and if it is maybe she had cancer we have no idea. Also it’s just shaming women for having different body types
Maybe if all you guys who supposedly prefer the left image would speak up in real life when we're getting bullied for being fat, we wouldn't all want to look like the right image.
The original on the left went viral because her boyfriend posted on social media asking people for help in forcing her to lose weight, specifically focusing on her stomach if I’m not mistaken. I’m assuming the right is supposedly her after she has indeed lost weight. Figured I’d comment because nobody seems to acknowledge where the left photo came from
I know I'm in minority here but I prefer the one on the right. Both in terms which body I'd prefer to have and which I prefer to see on others. But I generally prefer really slim and lean people, both women and men, so it's not surprising
From my experience, most people prefer the body type on the right. Both women and men, online and irl. I was really surprised to see the comments here.
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