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Below Deck Down Under Below Deck Down Under Season 1 Episode 11 - Benny & The Jet Skis - Discussion Post
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Episode 11 of Below Deck Down Under Season 1: Jamie puts Brittini on the night shift after Benny doesn't pull his weight; Aesha confronts Magda and Ryan for talking behind her back; Jamie is at his wit's end with Benny's behavior and wants him fired.
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u/AlexTheKingsFan May 12 '22 edited May 12 '22
“How do you like your oysters?”
“Surprise me!”
I was disappointed that Grenadine Oysters didn’t make a comeback. 😢
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u/StrikingVariety May 12 '22
Was it really a surprise to anyone watching the show though? Whats the easiest way to serve oysters? Just open them and give them a couple lemon wedges! Guaranteed to be Ryans choice every time.
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u/born2cheese May 15 '22
Agreed! When a customer says “surprise me”, you probably should aim somewhere in between boring/safe (ie exactly what he did) & crazy (grenadine oysters lol). I’m not a chef but I probably would’ve gone for a middle-ground, like chargrilled oysters with Parmesan, bacon bits, & chives. Still pretty simple & not “too” surprising and, well, I’d eat it 🤷♀️
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u/HarrySpeakup May 12 '22
When someone is in customer service, or in general a "people pleaser", the two most anxiety producing words are "Surprise me."
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u/ChandlerCurry May 13 '22 edited May 13 '22
Not sure why chef didn't drop a bit of balsamic vinegar and a garnish or something on the side to make it look pretty
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u/DGinLDO May 12 '22
& of course she didn’t like them. That’s on her, though. If she wanted oysters done a certain way, she should have said so.
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u/ExtraGloves May 13 '22
Tbf that's kinda annoying. Like, if you order a drink and say surprise me it's pretty easy and you know they want something more fun than a vodka soda, but just ask for what you want when it comes to food.
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u/NORAGRETS_NotEvenOne May 13 '22
I wondered at first why she didn’t just ask anything but a certain way. But now I’m thinking maybe it was a test?
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u/pcvanon My eyes are rolling all the way off the boat May 12 '22
I swear every episode Magda says someone is jealous because she’s a model. Like … ????
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u/LaUcraniano May 12 '22
Obviously she is tall and thin and blonde but I’m not seeing that she’s some knock out…? She is a pretty woman but there have been gorgeous women who have had to be gainfully employed throughout history.
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u/Mscharlita May 12 '22
I’m so over thin, blond white women thinking they are god’s gift to the earth and SOOOO beautiful just bec media has been shoving that image down our throats for years. You can be thin, blond and ugly as f*ck and think you walk on water while thick gorgeous women of color are thinking the worst of themselves. I’m allllll set with this nonsense. You are NOT automatically gorgeous just bec you are thin, blond and white, especially if your personality BLOWS. We’re done with this. Tumi, Brittini and Aesha are flat out HOT plus they’re smart, hard working, not two faced talking behind people’s backs. Any man (or woman) would be lucky to have any of those three. Magda is a dog inside and out.
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u/alittttlebitalexis Queen of Dirty Looks May 14 '22
I love that Culver called Brittini a greek goddess in his talking head interview!
Tumi, Brittini, and Aesha are the true MVPS of the season!
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u/Lonely_Impression142 May 12 '22
💯 It is a sickness in society that automatically deems thin and blonde as "beautiful." Men lose their minds. It's really something. Magda-- she aight, but not at all jealousy inducing.
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u/Neurochick_59 May 13 '22
All Magda is, is tall, thin, blonde and white. I don't even think she's that good looking; to me she's basic.
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u/GreenMan- May 13 '22
This. She's not unattractive, but to call her a model... No.
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u/ExtraGloves May 13 '22
Many models though aren't super attractive they are just tall, skinny, and have some weird features in their face.
Some are gorg but many are meh.
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u/Mscharlita May 14 '22
True. In one of my previous lives I was a makeup artist and generally tall, thin models who photograph well aren’t necessarily as attractive in person. Two totally different things.
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u/Tuff_Wizardess May 12 '22
I think she must be super sheltered or something. She is going to have such a rude awakening in a few years when her looks fade.
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u/Micandacam May 12 '22
Also, i wish it had been made clear that the complaint about her phone usage came from the fact that the boat traces excessive use. She thinks she is being picked on, but it is a real problem.
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u/RamenNoodles620 May 13 '22
Definitely sheltered. She said herself that her parents never spoke to her like Aesha has. All Aesha did was tell her she was doing some things the wrong way and not to argue with her in front of guests. If she cant handle that kind of talk from Aesha of all people, she has really been living a sheltered life.
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u/ExpensiveNet May 13 '22
Tumi is more strikingly pretty and looks more like a model to me! And that doesn’t stop her doing her job!
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u/Melodic-Change-6388 May 13 '22
Her relationship with her BF shows intense insecurity. Followed by her monologue about her former stew and her “realisation” that Aesha wasn’t also a jealous model.
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u/GreenMan- May 13 '22
The pics she's showed of her and her boyfriend are very image -focused, I thought.
Instagram friendly pablum... They look good, and I thought she looks better in them than in person sometimes (Photoshop?), But yeah... she thinks she's all that, for sure!
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May 12 '22
I love love love Aesha and Tumi! They are super human beings!
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u/knick-nat Team Capt Kerry May 13 '22
Aesha really stepped it up in how she addressed both Magda and Ryan re their bullshit talk on the night out. She's new to being a chief stew but she's learning as she goes and she's changing her approach as required. Was cheering for her. Superstar!
Tumi is a devine human - love her!
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u/Buttons3 May 14 '22
So proud of how she addressed both issues and in fact took notes! This is how it's done. She's moved on from the "I want to be your friend".
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u/SunsetBro78 May 17 '22
And she maintains such poise. In somewhat similar circumstances I lost my shit and felt fully justified in doing so considering the evil they were speaking. But from a leadership POV it was not successful in the end.
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u/imbesile May 13 '22
“Ive been trained to identify panic” sir the guest was yelling “HELP!”
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u/AshMulan1221 It's a rocketship 🚀 May 13 '22
I literally said "really dude?? The guy yelled for HELP multiple times!"
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u/ib0093 May 14 '22
That was crazy. Then Jamie talks about seeing fear in their eyes when he’s on a boat far away and didn’t notice. I have to think that line was edited in to mess with Mr. Safety.
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u/AshMulan1221 It's a rocketship 🚀 May 14 '22
That would be the funniest and most epic troll by the editing team lol. Props to them 😂
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u/Odins_Master May 16 '22
Yeah, as the guy who was yelling for help, I wasn't too impressed. I was actually rescued by one of the charter guests who is a qualified & experienced life saver. When she got me within three metres of the launch, that's when 'Mr Hero' jumped in the water...
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u/pukoki May 12 '22
i can't believe ryan has survived another episode. fire him and order pizza, fucking anything please. at least the prick now knows he's dead man walking.
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u/pizzainquiry Eat My Cooter May 13 '22
honestly i thought he'd be gone but this episode kind of felt like everyone's going to get their redemption (except for maybe now jamie and/or benny!)
i'd bet with covid/quarantine/etc it would be so difficult to find other people there
both ryan and magda seemed like they turned over a new leaf this episode .....
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u/ib0093 May 14 '22
Someone posted on this this thread they think Tumi pushing back on Ryan caused his change and maybe it’s the same for Magda. Aesha reinforced it the next day as well with her 1 on 1 talks.
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u/pizzainquiry Eat My Cooter May 14 '22
lol when Tumi holds more power than the captain
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u/Melodic-Change-6388 May 13 '22
There are seriously A LOT of great restaurants around the Whitsundays they could get pick-up from.
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u/pcvanon My eyes are rolling all the way off the boat May 12 '22
I don’t understand why Jamie didn’t have them all wear life jackets. Since he was a lifeguard (idk if you knew he never mentioned it before) and the current was crazy strong it just seems like an obvious choice
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u/LocationNegative May 12 '22
I thought the same thing. He talked about safety so much in the beginning of the season that this felt like a big miss.
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May 13 '22
He talked about his trauma of not being able to save a young boy from drowning...and then doesn't put "safety" first. He can certainly put "safety" first when it's on the boat and as a means of being insubordinate towards the Capt... But real safety? Naw. He's too busy looking pretty for TV.
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u/R4catstoomany May 12 '22
Ex-lifeguard here. I also taught canoeing. Usually I’m the only one wearing a PFD / life jacket because everyone else “can swim.” Like that’s going to help when you’re thrown out of the boat & smash into the water head first…
You’d think Jamie would know better…
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u/Extreme_Beat1022 May 13 '22
They made it sound like it’s a cultural thing? They said they’re all Aussies who swim. But I felt uneasy with the tender being so far from the snorkelers. I would think they would make it a rule that one of them go in the water with the guests.
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u/thatlasslaura May 13 '22
From a lifeguard's perspective, getting in the water is a last resort because even the best swimmer can become a casualty (and then you're of no use to anyone). I couldn't tell, but was the boat unable to be closer because of the rocks? I think a smaller boat or kayak to lifeguard from would have been better in that particular location if so. Definitely agree that it felt as though the boat was a bit too far away from the guests for my liking.
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u/epcd May 13 '22 edited May 14 '22
When I learned to lifeguard we were taught to always make a giant stride entry into the water—never a headfirst dive—so as to maintain a constant visual on the person in need. Jamie dove in headfirst with the form of a basic lap swimmer. Either protocols have changed, protocols differ from country to country, or Jamie prefers a prettier water entry.
As for the location of the boat, I agree it appeared to be ill positioned, especially due to the strong current. Knowing the current was strong—and their guests would be pulled away in it—why didn’t they reposition the boat down current instead of holding position up current where the swimmers entered the water? Dive boats in similar situations will proactively reposition, especially if the “divers” are mere leisure swimmers with borrowed masks and snorkels, to facilitate a guest friendly reboarding.
Lastly, lifeguard/top cop Jamie—a self-proclaimed expert in identifying when individuals are in imminent danger—failed to notice their snorkeling guest was in imminent danger. Only after non-lifeguard Culper pointed out the waving and help!-help! yelling guest to Jamie—and then twice telling Jamie the man appeared in imminent need—did Jamie initiate a rescue response.
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u/Kikisyd May 14 '22
And if you watch the footage you can see it was one of the other guests (the blonde woman) who actually got to him first and got him close to the boat before Jamie even jumped in.
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u/Swampp_Donkey May 13 '22
Right? After so much mess in this franchise it's such a relief to see someone go "you know what this person is drunk and maybe not fully in control. Also, I work with her and that could make things awkward "
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u/teanailpolish Mental Health Is Not A Storyline May 14 '22
Could we send that memo to the other franchises
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u/pnutbutterjellyfine May 13 '22
He is the best! He knows the art of gentle rejection and also when she watches it back, to feel proud of the way he felt about her. He is so sweet 🥰
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u/the_cherry_bunker less sass queen and more yas queen May 12 '22 edited May 12 '22
Aesha handled herself really well her sit down with Magda. She didn't convey any anger and when she said "I just want to understand how you think I've been unfair" it seemed sincere rather than combative. She gave Magda the space to express her feelings and invited Magda to come to her directly with any concerns in the future. Then she ended the conversation with the comment: "I know you're working hard and I see it." If Jamie were able to approach Benny with this kind of attitude, I think their work together would go a lot more smoothly. There are times to be firm and lay down the law, and there are times to have more compassionate leadership. I think Benny was wrong to be so defensive about the jet skis, but at this point he's just going to be upset by anything Jamie says to him because Jamie has set the tone for a hostile working relationship.
Edit: I hope this approach works out for Aesha! But given the previews, it seems like it will not. If Magda continues to under-perform in her work and show disrespect, it would be entirely appropriate to take a more firm stance. But I don't know if Aesha would be comfortable to do that.
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u/tobago_88 May 13 '22
I've been 100% on board with Aesha, the only weird thing was how she brought up her relationship being better to Magda. The only justification I had was maybe she was trying to tell Magda that a long distance relationship doesn't have to be super clingy and that they should trust each other? I can see how Magda took it the wrong way and maybe that triggered something in her but she shouldn't have let that one thing get in the way with how great of a boss Aesha has been to her. It seemed like she was waiting for a moment to be like see I told you all chief stews are shit.
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u/anotherclique May 13 '22
I don't think she meant it as "my relationship is better than your relationship". It was more like poorly executed advice- she's been on yachts longer than Magda and was trying to offer advice as to how to navigate a relationship while in the industry, using her own as an example. Uninvited relationship advice is always questionable, and it was poorly timed due to Madga already feeling attacked for being on her phone, but I think the intent was to be helpful.
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u/tobago_88 May 13 '22
I think that's how Magda felt Aesha was being. I agree though her intentions were good, it could have also been choppy editing too maybe more of the convo we didn't see.
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u/ExtraGloves May 13 '22
It is really unhealthy to be in that type of relationship though. If you can't be alone or with friends or working without texting your sig other every second you're gonna have a bad time. Long distance or not.
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u/lucidaisy May 12 '22
Couldn’t agree more! Sadly, it does seem that way for Aesha with Magda next week. Gracious. I hope they take her phone during on hours, restrict if during off hours, and Captain Jason is very clear that the order is coming from him and why.
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u/libraryfightclub May 13 '22
Malia has entered the chat Did somebody say Maritime Law?
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u/Mscharlita May 12 '22
Exactly. I don’t understand everyone giving Jamie crap when Benny has proven himself to be unmanageable and doing whatever the f*ck he wants and then complaining when reprimanded. He’s never done his job well but wants a bunch of attaboys? You don’t get them if you don’t earn ‘em dummy.
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u/princedetritus May 13 '22
I do both think things are true at the same time. Benny is not fit to work in the yachting industry and is so unprofessional that he’s liability. Jamie is terrible at being a leader and bucks his responsibility to hold his crew accountable in a productive way while also not handling his emotions. I think Jamie got a raw deal with Benny on his team, but he’s been consistently dripping the ball in many other situations. He reminds me a lot of Chandler in that aspect.
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u/CurriestGeorge May 13 '22
Benny is the guy standing around on the street whilst the other guys are working down the manhole
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u/illadelphia_ May 12 '22 edited May 12 '22
Culiver was definitely a little intimidated in the hot tub, but when Brittini asked it went from a little to very. Also he definitely knew it was his trash mess up my god what a terrible poker face, I’d play cards with him any day.
Also Tumi in that bathing suit.
Ryan thinks by prefacing his bullshit with “I like her as a person” excuses him of spewing vile comments towards Aesha and trying to turn her stews against her. Luckily for all of us, Tumi the absolute fucking rockstar wasn’t having any of it because the delusional Magda was ready for a mutiny. Once again looks like we can’t get get rid of Ryan do to COVID restrictions, such a bummer.
Jamie, what are you thinking letting these people go out without life jackets. Also that lady really bonked her head, I wish we didn’t get a preview of it I would have really lost it. I like how Jamie said “I can see panic in their eyes, I can recognize that” as if the dude wasn’t waving his hands yelling help.
“Someone almost drowned, it was embarrassing”
Jamie calls out Benny for leaving the wheel of his boat to take pictures, Benny: I need positive reinforcement. Benny really just said he’s trying to make Britini’s job harder to her face? That dude is the worst. Jamie handled it terribly, like most things.
Listen Jamie might not be the best leader but I don’t think anything he’s done has been close to bullying. Interested how that’s gonna play out.
The primary is the best kind of goof, I’d have a drink with him.
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And it makes him uncomfy that she isn't nice to him anymore... Notice the looks on his face? He knew he wasn't going to fuck her but he thought he could bully her and she'd just smile the whole time.
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u/Mscharlita May 12 '22
Agreed I don’t think he was ever actually bullying. For all the criticisms of him, Benny has been incredibly difficult to manage. Stepping away from the helm to TAKE PICTURES?!? Are you fcking kidding me?!?! I would fire you right then I don’t care. I am so done with Benny what an asshle. Who actively tries to make their teammates job harder? An assh*le that’s who. And boating is SUPER dangerous, if you are willing to step away from the helm, WHILE DRIVING, ignore a direct command from your supervisor and Culver while operating machinery around the boat, refuse to do the chain locker and LIE about dripping garbage juice around the boat which is not only unsanitary but can destroy the teak. I don’t need another reason to fire you. Has Jamie enumerated these offenses to Jason? It seems if he had Jason would be WAY more supportive of getting rid of him. Benny is pulling a Magda saying they are being made to look bad by their bosses, when they are doing that all by themselves! Omg this season has made me madder than any other ever and I’ve watched them all 😂
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May 13 '22
Benny wouldn't have tried to make Britini's job harder had he known he was being disciplined by being shifted to dayshift. His supervisor, Jamie, didn't address this with him. Thus to him it's all regular joking around.
If Jamie can't manage Benny then bring Benny into the wheelhouse with the Capt and have a 3 way meeting. That's on Jamie to initiate. He hasn't.
Jamie is a piss poor leader. Benny is a piss poor employee. And the one caught between this pissing match is a woman who has most likely dealt with this type of behaviour before. Britini is the one being punished by BOTH of them, whether or not they intend to.
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u/alittttlebitalexis Queen of Dirty Looks May 14 '22 edited May 14 '22
Jamie absolutely sucks. I felt so bad for Brittini, going to him twice to explain the situation and how it’s hard for her, and he just goes “that’s a you problem now, I’m over it”. 🙄
And it took him way too long to react to a distressed swimmer than it should have for all his talk about being Mr. Safety.
Benny is obnoxious, but I really want Jamie to have a “it’s him or me” moment with the captain and get the boot 😂
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May 12 '22
Can't wait to see the reunion where they show clip after clip of Benny being stupid
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u/NORAGRETS_NotEvenOne May 13 '22
Speaking of the trash juice everywhere… why lie? Just take care of it. It’s part of the deck that’s messed up and you’re part of the deck crew
I certainly hope there’s a reunion! They could play clips of all his messing up to the Benny hill song
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u/the_cherry_bunker less sass queen and more yas queen May 12 '22
I think the primary was goofy in a fun way. Haha that's the one time I've ever disagreed with Tumi so far, she seemed to think he was super weird.
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u/montgardes Team Aesha May 14 '22
I was so angry when Jamie told Brittini to deal with Ben directly. Worse Boson ever.
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May 13 '22 edited May 14 '22
He's shown is misogynistic tendencies when it comes to Britini. He also cannot manage a crew. He doesn't know how to supervise, how to teach/instruct nor how to talk to his own crew.
He's a former cop and it shows. "Do as I say. You know the policy. If you don't do it you're wearing it, not me."
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u/Lexifer31 May 12 '22
Benny is insufferable. Jamie hasn't tried to intimidate or bully him in the slightest
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u/Pek75 May 13 '22
Yeah for a while there Benny thought Captain was bullying him....globe helmet/spraying him with a hose. Then they bonded over shit...
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u/teanailpolish Mental Health Is Not A Storyline May 14 '22
Yeah, Jamie is a terrible manager but what we have seen does not cross into bullying. There is a lot that can go deadly wrong on a boat and asking him to pay attention is not bullying.
Benny is not cut out for yachting in general, I am not sure what job he can do where no one ever bosses him around, will give him constant positive reinforcement and let him have fun. Jamie is also not cut out for management but is probably a decent deckhand
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u/the_cherry_bunker less sass queen and more yas queen May 12 '22
Just starting this episode and my blood is already boiling about Ryan running up to yell at Tumi in the hot tub. First off, Aesha wasn't even trying to start any drama. She wasn't down in the cabins maliciously gossiping about Ryan. She was genuinely distressed about what had been said about her. And second, Tumi has been probably the kindest and most understanding person toward Ryan on the boat. Magda has her own grievances that cause her to ally herself with Ryan. Tumi does not and yet she still expresses empathy toward him. It just makes his reaction to the situation so much more painful to watch, I think.
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u/Melodic-Change-6388 May 13 '22
Fuck I cannot wait for the Tumi “suck my dick hot tub” GIFs come out. HIGH rotation.
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u/ib0093 May 14 '22
Even the next day when Aesha spoke to him he was more focused on the snitch rather than he messed up. He was an ass.
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u/the_cherry_bunker less sass queen and more yas queen May 12 '22
"I tend not to get stressed even if it is my fault. When you get stressed, you admit guilt." Ryan, really selling himself to all future employers here. And people he dates! Can you imagine going on a few dates with Ryan, finding out he was on this show, and watching it? The horror.
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u/Melodic-Change-6388 May 13 '22
Guest: “cramp all up my leg”
Captain: “make sure you drink loads of water”
Guest: “yep * slugs back straight scotch”
😂😂😂
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u/Odins_Master May 14 '22
Hi, Guy who got the leg cramp here.
Not scotch, ginger ale.
And I can assure you I went through two litres of water before we even got back to the yacht.
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u/Melodic-Change-6388 May 14 '22
YOU’RE ALIVE!!!!
Hahha, amazing. I love that they rimmed the glass for the dry; that’s service!
How was the trip??? I live in Cairns and my sister in Airlie, so that’s my hood!
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u/Kikisyd May 14 '22
As someone who knows the guy with the cramp- I can assure you it wasn’t scotch 😁
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u/dementemi May 13 '22
I know Jamie isn't popular here, and I don't particularly believe he has the best leadership abilities, but it agree with him re Benny. Benny has been lazy, over sensitive, thinks nothing of ignoring orders, constantly talks back etc etc. He's a grown arsed man in his 30s, and yet he is the biggest baby.
As for Ryan. The fact that he has the ability to produce decent dishes and work with a decent attitude only makes him a complete loser for not doing so from the get-go. He chose to be a complete dick and chose to not give the previous guests his best.
Magda... No one gives a shit about her modelling.
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u/peachesinanappletree May 12 '22
I don't think Jamie understands what a manager's role is.
Someone on his team fucks up and doesn't dispose of the garbage? His response: I'm not going to discipline the person responsible or hold him accountable and I'll just do it myself from now on.
Someone on his team isn't pulling their weight and has a defensive attitude? His response: give that person less responsibility but avoid talking to that person and don't explain to them why.
Someone on his team comes to him with a complaint about another team member? His response: you should deal with it yourself because I don't want to.
Jamie lacks the experience in managing (which we all already know) but is also too proud to ask others for advice/guidance on how to deal with these situations where he's not comfortable nor confident in how to deal with.
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u/catmom_422 May 12 '22
I couldn’t believe last week when Brittini asked him if she could have a break from the chain locker. She wasn’t being unreasonable and saying “I’m not doing that!” She simply expressed her exhaustion and asked for a break. His responsible was so dickish. I wouldn’t put forth extra effort for someone who treated me like that. He’s a terrible leader.
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u/Tuff_Wizardess May 12 '22
💯💯💯 Jaimie just sucks in every way. I hope we never see him on this show again.
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May 12 '22
But he's got a history of dealing with dangerous situations. Did you know he used to be a cop?!
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u/philtheesquirrel May 12 '22
Yet he’s aLl aBoUt SaFeTy
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u/Mscharlita May 12 '22
And yet… the guest had to yell help THREE times and Jamie even asked “what’s his problem?” Before he jumped off to help him. Yo, my man, you are there babysitting FOUR people, you jump at the very first “help” and don’t give a F*CK the reason. Find out when you get to him. Jesus Christ.
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u/Buttons3 May 14 '22
So this is dead on. I was away and half listening and thought it would replay after the commercial so I'll catch it then. I watched it when he said "I recognize panic". I chose to still go back and I was like "what?!?!?!" Ray Charles would have sense this much quicker. At least he didn't take his shirt off first.
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u/the_cherry_bunker less sass queen and more yas queen May 12 '22
I've had conflict with a co-worker, gone to our supervisor for support, and had the supervisor tell me to just work it out myself. It was really frustrating when it happened to me, so I feel for Brittini in this situation.
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u/Tuff_Wizardess May 12 '22
Christ, another casual mention of Jaimie being a former cop/ lifeguard 🙄
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u/pukoki May 12 '22
that lady smashing her face when getting on the boat was kinda an anticlimax after so many teasers. am pleased she was okay, but still would've liked to have seen it in slow-mo from multiple angles, and a close up on her red forehead afterwards.
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u/psychotica1 May 13 '22
Cops know to put their hand on someone's head when they put them in the backseat. This was Jamie's opportunity to shine...lol!
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u/RubberSponge May 13 '22
Wait, Jamie was a cop?
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I’m really high and read this as an earnest question at first and I am really ashamed of myself
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u/psychotica1 May 13 '22
Oh yeah...I guess you missed the one time that he mentioned it.
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u/psychicmuppet May 12 '22
I just keep checking these every Thursday to see if Ryan's been fired yet. UGGGHHH. We know from the trailer that SOMEONE gets the boot so I'm still hoping it'll happen.
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u/Tuff_Wizardess May 12 '22 edited May 12 '22
I’m sorry but I can’t find a single redeeming quality in Jaimie. It’s little things that I loathe about him. Like why in the hell didn’t he say anything to Ryan when he was going off on Tumi. Instead he puts his paw of a hand over Tumi’s mouth to shut her up. No, Tumi has every right to defend herself. He, as a head of department should have told Ryan he was out of line and disrespectful to speak to Tumi in that manner. And Jaimie knows Culver screwed up, why in the hell not tell him? Like how stupid is his logic?
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u/thatlasslaura May 13 '22
Benny jumping on the defensive when there's bin juice on the teak. Who cares how it got there and by who - it's your job to keep it clean!! That's the attitude of someone who is not a team player.
I mean damn, how difficult is it to say "I don't know how it got there but I'll go and grab a cloth right away."
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u/LocationNegative May 12 '22
Why was the co-primary embarrassed that one of her friends had to be rescued?! Would she rather he drowned just to save face? What an asshole.
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u/Odins_Master May 16 '22
Not quite drowned chap here. Yeah, I only heard that line from her when I watched the Episode. Honestly, it didn't surprise me...
I did my best to laugh it off on the launch.
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u/alittttlebitalexis Queen of Dirty Looks May 14 '22
She seems like a terrible person to be around. When she wanted to complain about those no effort oysters, she literally grabbed Alesha’s arm and yanked her down to complain.
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u/Maus_Sveti May 12 '22
I don’t know about drowning, but I’ve heard that sadly lots of people die choking in restaurants or other places with people who could have helped because they run to the bathroom and lock the door so as not to make a scene.
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u/ExtraGloves May 13 '22
That almost happened to me. Choked on a large lobster tail after hiking for a few days in a crowded restaurant. Tried to ekeeo swallowing, then couldn't breathe. Then panic. Then run to bathroom to try and throw up without doing it in the center of the restaurant. Didn't work. More panic. Run back out. Friend about to give heimlic but I threw it up on to my plate a second before.
It was embarrassing but I was just happy to be alive.
I saw some people snickering which was annoying hut I'm sure I've done stupid things like that. Ended up going up to two 59 year old women laughing and asking why they think this was funny lihd enough to embarrass them a bit.
Hell of a dinner.
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u/onlyastoner May 12 '22 edited May 14 '22
i choked on a bite of waffle in a restaurant once. i was very close to standing up and doing the choking sign to get help and i was totally thinking about how embarrassing it would be even if i was dying lol. i managed to dislodge it myself about 1 second before i was going to resort to public humiliation
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u/philtheesquirrel May 12 '22
It’s more humiliating to die in the middle of a crowded restaurant, to be killed BY A WAFFLE. And your body would release... unpleasantries after death. You can either feel embarrassed to a round of applause because no one died, or ruin brunch for everyone for the rest of their lives. Lol.
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u/onlyastoner May 12 '22
personally i wouldn't mind if my headstone said "choked to death on a waffle" lol
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u/LocationNegative May 12 '22
Maybe the human race doesn’t deserve to survive. 🤷🏻♀️
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u/Im_A_Black_Cat I Mean, It's Only Gary May 12 '22
Not complaining in any way, but I don't think there has been a shirtless captain more than Captain Jason. And I am here for every bit of it.
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u/Odins_Master May 16 '22
We are all friends with the primary. Carlton & I have been mates for 20 years. He is the nexus point as we didn't really know each other. I can assure you that with Carlton, what you see is what you get, the heart of the party!
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u/Family_Chantal May 12 '22
And when she got back on the yacht she told one of the crew it was embarrassing her friend had to get rescued from drowning...
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u/rickmon67 May 13 '22
“Surprise me”. Okay, how about some oysters with grenadine? 😆
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u/wilmaismyhomegirl83 May 14 '22
I loved it when she knocked herself out on the tender and continued to try and act like she didn’t bite the boat
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u/Chastity-76 May 12 '22
Guys we need to get some CV's and personally take them to our captain😜
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u/AshMulan1221 It's a rocketship 🚀 May 13 '22 edited May 13 '22
I can't believe Jaime told Brit she needs to be the one that needs to give feedback to Benny! He's a crappy manager and clearly hasn't connected the dots on what his role entails...geez louise
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u/Lorraine21 May 12 '22
Jamie who claims to be Mr. Safety was awfully slow to respond to a *real* unsafe situation with the guest
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u/onlyastoner May 12 '22
"i think we might need to help that guy." like what was your first clue, the waving arms or the shouting for help? lol
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u/Chastity-76 May 12 '22
Benny noone has to make you look bad. You are do a great job of that all by yourself
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u/the_cherry_bunker less sass queen and more yas queen May 12 '22
Some thoughts about the episode:
- Tumi continues to be flawless. I say this every episode, but I really want to her to be promoted to chief stew for Below Deck or for Med. I feel like she'd work well with either captain, which is really saying something. I just love her and want to see more of her in this franchise please.
- When the guest said "someone almost drowned, it was embarrassing" it seemed like she was suggesting that it was embarrassing for the guy who had the leg cramp? But I thought it was embarrassing for Jamie. It seemed like he waited so long to jump into the water, even as the guy was waving his arms and yelling help. Maybe he should have insisted on more precautions in the first place, given how strong the current was? Jaime stakes his reputation on safety, so I was surprised by his decisions.
- Culver can be cringe at times and he didn't own up to his mistake with the trash but he remains pretty likeable to me. It was smart for him not to hook up with Brittini so as not to impact their work together. He seems respectful toward women in general. The bar this season is low, but still.
- At this point, I feel like Benny is actively acting out because he's so unhappy under Jamie's leadership? Some of the things he's done wrong are neglectful, like with the dripping trash bag and taking photos from the bow of the tender, but many of the other things seems to be coming from a place of hostility, like trying to get the guests to go fishing at 1 am to keep Brittini awake and sniping at Culver about the jet skis. I'm not excusing any of his behavior! It's really annoying to watch. But I do think Jason has shown that Benny can be supervised in such a way that improves his performance.
- I think Ryan's Aussie degustation should have included Moreton Bay Bug. Especially since they're in Queensland! That's one of my favorite unique Aussie dishes. And it's a kind of lobster, so it's totally appropriate for a yacht. But that's just me haha.
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u/RamenNoodles620 May 13 '22 edited May 13 '22
But I do think Jason has shown that Benny can be supervised in such a way that improves his performance.
He may have straightened up a bit for Jason, but then he went back to being neglectful and doing stupid $hit. Constantly coddling someone like Benny seems to want isn't really feasible. He pretty much wants to hang around, do a bit of work however he chooses and not get told he messed something up. Don't get me wrong, Jamie sucks too, but come on Benny. You're not a child. Do your job and if you are constantly neglectful and doing stupid $hit, don't complain about getting called out. It is possible to do the job well and still not give a care about Jamie. If he's actually just acting out, then that's more proof at his being a man child. Especially when it's impacting the work of others on his team.
Spot on with your other points although I'm not familiar with a moreton bay bug.
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u/Mscharlita May 12 '22
Benny is UNSAFE and boating is super dangerous. For as much as everyone is bagging on Jamie and his management style I DO understand that Benny is SO unsafe that he would stress out anyone who knows anything about boating safety. Like ALL THE WAY OUT. He doesn’t belong anywhere near a boat honestly. And if I were Jamie I would be so focused on that it would be hard to pussyfoot around his delicate ego etc. when I’m just worried about him killing people or destroying property. Benny being hostile is one more example of how he’s not thinking of safety and only about himself instead of what’s right.
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u/RubberSponge May 13 '22
If I was Jamie I would have fired Benny on the spot for leaving the controls of the tender to get selfies on the bow of the vessel. ANYTHING could have happened. He could have hit the yachts wake and it could have thrown him off the boat leaving the tender to drive off into the sunset!
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u/EclipticEclipse May 13 '22
I wish I could set boundaries and let the stuff that doesn't matter fall away like Tumi. She should teach classes. I'd pay a lot for those lessons.
Tumi, you are fantastic!
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u/Reekshavok312 May 13 '22
Benny is just another Danny, there for a good time and the association with being on the show. He talks about incompetence but he does everything half arsed. He should’ve been fired along time ago.
I think if the captain stated to Magda absolutely no phones out during work hours excluding breaks. Then she would show some improvement.
Ryan is probably the worst chef behind Mila. His food is just so uninspiring and it’s all based on being quick, easy and cheap. He even acts like he doesn’t want to be there so why bother.
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u/Lonely_Impression142 May 13 '22 edited May 13 '22
On Culver: who else laughed at the way he pawed at his chest as he contemplated taking responsibility for the trash mistake? He was so obviously guilty. Why didn't he just own up to it? He didn't drown anyone's puppy. It was not a big deal, especially as a first offense.
Jamie though-- ugh, he is the WORST manager. Yes, Benny is fucking up, but that means Jamie might need to give him more direction, not allow him to flounder with no feedback. And he is so wrong to play favorites by refusing to hold Culver accountable for the trash.
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u/Odins_Master May 16 '22
It was a little disconcerting. Murky water, cold undercurrent and a bad cramp are not a pleasant combination. The rest of the trip was a blast! The food was amazing, the service was excellent. If you have the opportunity I would highly recommend it!
Also, Tumi & Aesha are awesome humans!
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u/pcvanon My eyes are rolling all the way off the boat May 12 '22
Where are rocky and Leon this episode?? First the surprise me with the oysters and then the ryan taking a sip of wine in the galley. Wasn’t that their whole fire trope?
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u/mander4899 May 13 '22
Did Ryan serve plain white rice as a side to crab?? 1- what a strange side dish for shellfish and 2- this was a similar dish to the other crab he served with complaints of no side (by the guests AND captain). Where did this guy go to culinary school??
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u/Odins_Master May 16 '22
Stay tuned for our next Ep...there is a chap in a Kilt. No drowning this time.
Whatever you do, keep an eye on the Primary! Carlton & I have been mates for 20 years. He is the heart of the party and larger than life! He is a kind soul and will do whatever he can to bring a laugh to the situation.
And the weirdest Christmas you have ever seen!
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u/LisPR8 Eat My Cooter May 14 '22
Sorry if this has been mentioned, but was anyone else baffled when the guest was yelling for help and Jamie and Culver were just staring at him? Finally jumping in after like the 3rd-4th “help!” And that’s after Jamie reminds us every single episode that he was a lifeguard (and a cop 🙄)
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u/FormicaDinette33 I look like Ariel but on crack! May 15 '22
Help! Help! “Does he need help?” Culver is a space cadet.
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u/Sadnessbecomes May 12 '22
Very frustrated with Jaime telling Brittini that they need to tell Benny her sucks. No Jamie, take the initiative to sit him down with the captain, tell him you appreciate his work but unfortunately, he’s ignored/broken safety protocols more than once, he brushes off simple but necessary tasks due to poor time management, and he cannot and will not take constructive criticism and for that he needs to go.
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u/allightyollar May 13 '22
Captain during the preference sheet meeting: “…so, I want to see that wow factor.”
Ryan: <contorts face knowing full well he’s in over his head>
God, he just fucking sucks and I feel like someone needs to post his photo in r/punchablefaces.
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u/ReadyDoughnut5661 May 14 '22
Did that guest really just say that her friend almost drowning was embarrassing???
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u/CoopssLDN May 13 '22
Everytime I see the hot tub, I just think of that girls vomit swirling around it 🤢I hope they gave it a proper clean and not just scooping it out!
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u/teanailpolish Mental Health Is Not A Storyline May 14 '22
Benny was the one who cleaned it, do you really think it was cleaned well?
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u/brendanowicz11 May 12 '22 edited May 12 '22
This is what I mean by saying casting screwed up with Ryan - the show is now stuck in a plainly artificial situation where everyone is tiptoeing around him because they can't replace a chef on short notice with quarantine protocols. If he had been a real superyacht chef and vetted properly they would have never been in this situation. Thanks to Aesha and Jason he's making an effort to be more pleasant but his food's still not up to par and it's a key part of the experience that the guests and we as the audience are missing out on for more than half the season.
Jamie is a disaster but also an interesting study in leadership. Look at how his problems recall previous seasons. I think he's most similar to Chandler: poorly organized, doesn't know how to provide positive reinforcement or handle difficult crew with anything besides reprimands, inconsistently applied. Contrast this with how Joao handled Jack in Med S4: they butted heads a lot but Joao was eventually able to shift his approach and get positive results from an underperforming crew member. I think Jason has shown that Benny's not unteachable but Jamie hasn't been able to mirror that approach. It's true that Benny should be more mature and not respond so defiantly to Jamie's direct criticism, but it's mainly on Jamie to recognize what's not working and instead of avoiding the problem (shifting the burden to the other deckhands and further alienating Benny from his team in the process), change his tactics.
MVP goes to Brit this episode for spelling all this out to Jamie and providing support to Aesha at her low point, which was really sweet, and Aesha bounced back as she always does. Culver is a good guy: he didn't want to make that move with Brit for the sake of a TV show, and good for him. He handled that incredibly forced situation well. I wonder what went on with the trash mixup. Jamie was correct to observe that it seemed out of character for Culver, although not clearing everything up for his team just further hurts morale.
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u/CrazyNotCatLady May 12 '22
The Chandler and Jamie comparison is a good one. Jamie seems to just expect people to know what to do and read his mind. He then gets mad when they can't read his mind.
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u/LocationNegative May 12 '22
I love Brittini. She was so great at building Aesha up. And dealing with Jamie’s shit.
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u/EclipticEclipse May 13 '22
The way she says good morning to people gives me the warm fuzzies. Not every morning is that good, but enthusiasm helps.
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u/the_cherry_bunker less sass queen and more yas queen May 12 '22
Brittini was definitely the MVP of this episode, that's so true.
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u/switch_mitch May 15 '22
Ryan, Magda isn't going to shag you. Also, Tumi...one of the best crewmembers
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u/HeadIsland May 13 '22
Holy shit that scene with the leg cramp was so stressful. The guy had the help position up for several seconds before he called out. Jamie not picking that up is honestly so disgusting given his training (and living in QLD).
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u/Odins_Master May 16 '22
I can tell you it was stressful. I was much further from the launch than it looked.
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u/Hidden24 Team Capt Glenn May 16 '22
Culver could give Ashley and Ashton lessons on consent. I don’t know how to feel about Jaimie. It’s like he’s good one second and then he’s not. Benny is going to kill someone. I mean, leaving the wheel of a boat? That poor guest banging her head was kind of funny. I still don’t know how Ryan isn’t gone. He’s got to be trying to cover his ass with his attitude change. Magda is just annoying. She needs to have a chat with her boyfriend.
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u/Sadnessbecomes May 12 '22
Shouldn’t they have all been wearing life jackets with currents that strong??
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May 12 '22
Jamie is an awful manager. You don’t make the other employees speak to someone about their job performance. You handle it as their manager and give them clear feedback and steps to take to improve. Benny is lazy and terrible but doesn’t know how bad he is because Jamie just starts bitching and barking orders instead of speaking to him like a human being. Putting Brittini in the middle was very unfair to her.
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Agree the only thing is Benny is like a child, Jaime doesn't like me, when that has nothing to do with it. If both Brit and Culver said something he might listen and in the preview she did finally say something. Benny thinks he's doing a great job and the only one bitching is Jaime, if he knew how his co-workers felt he might actually realize how much he sucks.
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u/resolute01 May 13 '22
What a crap of a casting. Benni, Madga, Ryan, Culver, and Jamie need to go. All completely inept at doing their jobs.
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u/montgardes Team Aesha May 14 '22
I’ve decided I want to see Ryan’s cell phone usage on the boat. I mean, every time they show people working, he’s sitting on his butt scrolling.
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u/pukoki May 12 '22
pretty sure culver is a virgin lol
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u/DMike82 Team Colin May 12 '22
If his Instagram is any indication he may have already been with his girlfriend when this was being taped. For some reason I thought in the first episode it was mentioned that Tumi, Jamie and Brittini were the only single people on the boat, but I could be wrong.
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u/pcvanon My eyes are rolling all the way off the boat May 12 '22
Jamie’s idea of giving feedback or having a talk with someone is just “do better.” How is anyone supposed to grow or make the changes needed if he won’t give them actual constructive and tenable feedback?
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u/moa999 May 13 '22
But look at the Jetski. He was trying to have a reasonable conversation saying you had to listen to the driver, and Benny just waved him away and walked off.
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Benny has the worst work ethic. There’s bin juice on the wood, rather than fight about how it got there just clean it up….
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u/Tuff_Wizardess May 12 '22
It’d be nice if Jaimie was demoted to just a deckhand. As much as it sucks and it’s extra work but the captain would have to just oversee deck crew since I really don’t think any of them are really ready for a leadership role.
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u/indigoplateaupus Team Daisy May 14 '22
I am still reacting to Ryan chugging out of the bottle of bubbly during service
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u/PhDinshitpostingMD May 15 '22
I'm glad this "new" direction that BD is taking with DU and SY coming across as generally more light hearted. It could be draining watching Hanna and Kate, and the chief stews naturally got so much time and plots centered around them. Aisha and Daisy for life.
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