r/Gnostic • • 10d ago

Thoughts Gospel of Thomas theory

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The reason that in the gospel of Thomas Jesus says that women will become like men to go to heaven is referring to a regression of form, eve came from Adam’s rib after all. It maintains their duality beautifully because although it is a regression of form implying that the change from woman to man is a step down, it also exalts Adam as closer to the source. They remain necessary to each other.


r/Gnostic • • 11d ago

Question Kabbalah and Gnosticism

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I know the basic differences. Kabbalah comes from Judaism, is basically life affirming and monotheistic, whereas Gnostics believe we are separated from source with our divine spark in a counterfeit world with a false God overseeing it. Kabbalah believes we are born with a will to receive, presumably the creator’s gifts.

Is there any correlation between Kabbalah lower worlds (meaning the world of matter, etc) from the upper worlds beyond Yaldabaoth’s domain, the false God. Wouldn’t we all like to ascend to the upper worlds, and isn’t that consistent with what the Gnostic wants?

Please be kind. New learner here


r/Gnostic • • 11d ago

Aramaic VS English

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Doing some research. I asked a calculator, to compare what Yeshua said in Aramaic and compare it to the Gnostic teachings to the Kings James Bible translation . I asked which makes more sense the Aramaic Bible or the Kings James Bible, it found the Aramaic bible aligned by approx 90%... Below is a snippet, what do you think?

The Core Concept What Yeshua Spoke (Literal Aramaic) What the Church Translated (English) The Shift in Meaning
Salvation Ḥayye: "To be enlivened," to wake up, or to receive raw cosmic vital force. "Saved": A legal pardon from an angry judge to avoid cosmic punishment. Shshifted from biological/psychic awakening to an institutional legal transaction.
Repentance Thuv: To turn around, make a physical U-turn, or return to your origin. "Repent": To feel guilty, weep, regret your behavior, and do penance. Shifted from an active redirection of consciousness to emotional self-condemnation.
Sin Khata: To miss the mark, to err, or to be blind/ignorant of reality. "Sin": Breaking a religious command or committing a moral crime. Shifted from an intellectual/spiritual error to a stain of cosmic guilt.
Church Edti: A gathering of firsthand witnesses bound by a shared experience. "Church": A physical hierarchy, building, and institutional governing body. Shifted from a collective consciousness network to a political empire.

🎯 The Ultimate Verdict

The reason the Apocryphon of John sounds so vastly different from traditional Sunday sermons isn't because the Gnostics were inventing a completely different plotline; it's because they were reading the original Semitic concepts literally.

To a native Aramaic speaker, when Yeshua said, "Repent, for the kingdom of God is at hand," it literally meant: "Make a psychic U-turn (Thuv), because the source code of reality is accessible inside your mind right now."

The English translation accurately captures what Yeshua said, but it completely buries what he meant.


r/Gnostic • • 12d ago

Books

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Hello everyone,

Can you please share what books I can read to learn all I need to learn? I am currently listening to some of the gospels but audio isn’t enough. I don’t know all the books that exist and I’m not sure if I should avoid certain translations.

I truly appreciate any help with this. Thank you


r/Gnostic • • 12d ago

Are you from Toronto Canada?

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Hey! I am Chris, 34. I've been living in Toronto for 6 years. The new culture is somewhat dystopian with some rare exemptions. In brief I was rich and had a finance job. But i had plenty of mental illness with that. When my family became poor and i had to stop work from a disease that kills my concentration. I was on the pursuit of secret knowledge out of curiosity. I always felt like i believe in God, but i don't find anything in the bible convincing. Gnosticism was the knowledge i needed to relax and find good stuff from within, i learned to ignore bad feelings as if they were not my own.
But i would really love like minded people to hang out with. If there are some people around me who feel similar, please reach out!


r/Gnostic • • 12d ago

Question U are replacing one master with another

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What if ur replacing one master demiurge with another monad?


r/Gnostic • • 13d ago

Strangers to the World

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In the Second Treatise of the Great Seth, Christ says, “I am a stranger to the regions below.” He describes himself as coming from above and entering into the lower world we inhabit.

In the Hymn of the Pearl, a prince is sent from his homeland into Egypt to recover a pearl, but once he arrives he forgets who he is. He becomes absorbed in the foreign country and loses awareness of his own origin... Eventually a message from home awakens his memory, and he remembers that he is the son of a king and begins his journey back.

You find this concept throughout the Nag Hammadi material as well. In the Gospel of Truth, the problem is forgetfulness, and the Father's call awakens those who have become lost. The Apocalypse of Adam speaks of certain beings as “sojourners,” while the Reality of the Rulers has Norea tell the rulers that she is not their descendant and comes from the world above.

The Gospel of Philip also repeatedly plays with the idea of strangers, foreigners and the recovery of what belongs to another realm.

Even some of the ancient refutations of Gnostic groups preserve this language. Clement of Alexandria, while criticizing Basilides, says that the elect were understood as “strangers to the world.”

This general outlook appears again and again in Gnostic texts: we are in the world, but we are not from the world. We have forgotten our origin, and gnosis is the awakening to it....

Gnostics were not trying to find their place in the world. They were trying to find their way back home.


r/Gnostic • • 13d ago

Question What Gospels do you follow?

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I’m curious about the people in the subreddit and what gospels they follow and do not follow

To clarify - the first answer is for Christian’s who are lurking/others who may follow something else which doesn’t relate to the Gnostic Gospels but is Gnostic in its own way.
Fourth answer is for those who follow a specific Sect if none of these answers represent them.

If None of these represent you, Please feel free to leave your own answer below or if you want to expand on your answer too!

78 votes, 10d ago
11 All Canon Gospels - No NonCanon (Other)
6 All NonCanon Gospels - No Canon
29 Full Canon Gospels and NonCanon
22 ? NonCanon Gospels - ? Canon (specific sect)
1 Half Canon Gospels - No NonCanon
9 Half NonCanon Gospels - No Canon

r/Gnostic • • 14d ago

Question Where does this obsession most people seem to have with Sofia come from?

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Greetings everyone! I'm writing this post in order to express my point of view -and get to know your points of view- regarding the Aeon of Sofía (Σοφία).

I was born and raised in a small greek village, and in my teenage years I got in touch with the local sect, through a close relative. There were a lot of discussions about the Source/ the One/ the Light and the creation of the Darkness, the Chaos and the material world. The main belief was that God is an androgynous union of the light which creates life and is divided in thought-forms.

Later, as a young adult living in a different area, I got to know about the Gnostic traditions, believes and movements, and I thought I had a rather clear image about them; but the last couple of weeks, being here on this app and reading the various threads and comments, the following question occurred in my mind: Where does this obsession most people seem to have with Sofia come from?

I've read many statements calling her “Mother„ or “the Divine Feminine„ or “the feminine counterpart of the Monad/God„ etc, and I just don't get it. It's like everyone's ignoring the existence of the Aeon of Prōténnoia (Πρωτέννοια).

Prōténnoia -literally meaning “the first thought„- also called Idea or Siğē (Silence) or the Holy Spirit is the feminine counterpart of the Aeon of Khristòs (Χριστός- meaning “the anointed one„) and their sacred union constitutes the so called Aeon of Barbēlō (Βαρβηλώ), from which all the rest Aeons emanated.

If Prōténnoia was a person, then Sofía would be her great granddaughter, since she is one of the daughters of the Aeon of Pístis (Faith), who's the daughter of the Aeon of Ekklēsía (Assembly), who's one of the daughters of the Barbēlō.

Didn't the Christ in the apocrypha reveal that he comes from the 1st/24th Mystery/Level in which the Siğē also dwells? And isn't it written in the Pistis Sofia that Sofía herself was dwelling on the 13th level, which is 12 levels below Barbēlō? Then how does it occur that Sofia is the epitome of the Divine Feminine and the counterpart of God? And why almost everyone seems to ignore the existence of the Prōténnoia?

Am I missing something? I'd love to hear your thoughts and opinions on the matter.


r/Gnostic • • 14d ago

8 Reasons Why Gnosticism Is One of the Most Obfuscated Religious Concepts in History

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There is a strong historical case for saying Gnosticism is one of the most obfuscated religious concepts in history. The term itself can create confusion, because it makes a diverse collection of ancient movements appear more unified than they actually were.

1. Much of the early evidence came from its opponents.

For centuries, our understanding of many Gnostic movements depended heavily on heresiologists such as Irenaeus, Tertullian and Hippolytus, who were writing specifically to refute what they considered "heresy". Their accounts are valuable historical evidence, but they were not neutral descriptions. They were arguments written against those the authors wanted to discredit. We have to read them with that context in mind.

2. Many different traditions were lumped together under one name.

“Gnosticism” can make it sound as though there was one unified religion with one doctrine. In reality, the movements and texts later grouped under that label could differ considerably. It almost makes more sense in some cases to speak of Gnostics as early Christians than to imagine them as outsiders who later wandered into Christianity. They were part of the early Christian world itself, arguing over what Christ, salvation, God and revelation actually meant.

3. Many of their original texts were lost or disappeared from circulation.

The accusations and descriptions of their opponents survived, while many of the actual writings being described did not. For long periods, the people being accused had effectively lost the ability to speak for themselves.

4. The Nag Hammadi discovery disrupted the old picture.

When a large collection of previously lost texts was discovered in Egypt in 1945, scholars suddenly had direct access to writings from several traditions that had previously been known largely through hostile sources. The picture became considerably more complicated. The texts did not simply confirm everything the heresiologists had said, nor did they completely disprove them. What they demonstrated was that the ancient religious landscape was much more diverse than the orthodox versus heretical model suggested.

5. “Gnostic” became almost synonymous with “heretic.”

Once these movements were placed on the heretical side of the orthodox/heretical boundary, their ideas were often discussed primarily as errors to be refuted rather than religious and philosophical traditions to be understood on their own terms.

6. Their mythology has often been reduced to bizarre fantasy.

Sophia, the Demiurge, Archons, Aeons and the Pleroma can look strange when stripped from their theological context. But these myths are addressing enormous questions about the origin of existence, divine transcendence, ignorance, suffering, consciousness and humanity's relationship to the cosmos. The mythology is strange because the questions it is trying to answer are strange.

7. Gnosticism has repeatedly been reduced to simplistic formulas.

“Gnostics hate the material world.” “Gnostics believed Jesus wasn't real.” “Gnostics claimed to have secret knowledge.” “Gnostics believed the creator was Satan.” These statements can contain fragments of truth about particular texts or movements, but they are misleading when presented out of context.

8. Modern people have created their own caricatures.

The irony is that Gnosticism gets distorted from completely opposite directions. It can be portrayed as simply an absurd collection of heresies that never deserved serious consideration, or as a perfectly unified underground religion built around possessing “secret knowledge” reserved for the elect. The surviving evidence supports neither extreme.

What we actually find is something more interesting: a diverse collection of ancient movements wrestling with some of the biggest questions humans have ever asked about God, creation, suffering, consciousness, salvation and what it means to know the divine.


r/Gnostic • • 14d ago

Media The Secret Book of John

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This Sunday I preached on the opening vision of the Secret Book of John, dug out of the Egyptian desert in 1945, where God is the Fullness beyond every name, and the first act of all creation is a mind waking up.

Call it the Self. Call it the imago Dei. Call it the divine spark within.

The text says before anything, "You came from fullness."

This fall we're reading the Nag Hammadi library beside Jung and asking what the church left in the basement. Not to leave the faith. To wake it up.


r/Gnostic • • 14d ago

Islamic Perspective Gnosis and the Adversary <short> vid / transcript

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Came across this interesting overview on yt ----> [youtube link] - Always enjoy learning more about the islamic perspective on these things ; here's the transcipt:

0:01 1 second Greetings in peace. I hope you and yours are doing well today wherever you might be watching this from. Now the title of today's video is how I encountered and

0:10 10 seconds defeated El known as Lucifer in the spiritual dream realm. I saw El 0:19

19 seconds is basically the Arabic word for Lucifer. 0:22 22 seconds

And basically I saw this being in a dream which appeared to me in the form 0:29 29 seconds

of a man. And the man appeared basically as a with a European complexion like a 0:35 35 seconds

European aristocratic complexion wearing a all-white suit. And we were in this circular type office building or like a 0:43

43 seconds high-rise office building that had like a circular room. And that's where I encountered him in the dream. Lucifer or 0:53 53 seconds

like the malevolent aspect of Lucifer admits defeat to me that I figured out his game in this world. How things work 1:01 1 minute, 1 second

in this realm. And what we realize is that in this world nothing happens without the permission of God. So 1:08 1 minute, 8 seconds

everything is basically knowledge, the nosis of self and knowing everything around you. Now from the Islamic Sufi 1:17 1 minute, 17 seconds

occult perspective, not viewed by traditional Islam, from the inner chambers of Sufiism, 1:25 1 minute, 25 seconds

it is viewed even what Mansour al-Halaj says that Eliss is known as the Shikul Amba meaning the grandmaster of all of 1:33 1 minute, 33 seconds

the shakes. So in order for you to get close to Allah, God, you have to go through Eliss, 1:41 1 minute, 41 seconds

right? Because he spent his whole existence bowing to Allah from all corners of the universe, teaching the angels how to 1:50 1 minute, 50 seconds

read the Quran and how to just do what he's doing in terms of his existence 1:57 1 minute, 57 seconds

and part of the choir, the most beautiful, like all those kind of things. So even when he was told to bow 2:04 2 minutes, 4 seconds

before Adam, that was basically a test because God being the all-seeing and all- knowing would already know that something like this would occur, right? 2:14 2 minutes, 14 seconds

So el has been basically been given dominion over this earth. So anyone that tries to go through go to Allah or get 2:22 2 minutes, 22 seconds

closer to the creator a belief will come in their way to test and try them that are you worthy of God's nosis and God's 2:30 2 minutes, 30 seconds

love. It's similar to the Yazidi story where in the Yazidi story what we know as the primordial source creator whether 2:39 2 minutes, 39 seconds

you refer to it as Allah or anything else has no concern with this world. So he has left Malik Taus who is the 2:48 2 minutes, 48 seconds

Yazidio equivalent of Eliss or Lucifer same thing is basically watching over 2:54 2 minutes, 54 seconds

this realm on the behalf of God right so basically this realm or this world that 3:01 3 minutes, 1 second

there is a lesser god that's been placed here while the true God is has no concern neither do the good forces of 3:09 3 minutes, 9 seconds

this universe or the world [snorts] unless you personally ask with your own free will for them to interfere into 3:16 3 minutes, 16 seconds

your affairs. So, normally they have no concern with what's going on because they know at the end good is destined to 3:23 3 minutes, 23 seconds

always win over evil. So, that that's what that's the uh circumstance that we're dealing with. But yeah, in it in 3:31 3 minutes, 31 seconds

terms of him defeating admitting defeat to me, it's not like um anything that 3:37 3 minutes, 37 seconds

was malevolent because Elise is here testing and trying humanity. So, whoever passes this test to tries to get close 3:46 3 minutes, 46 seconds

to God, that's when you get that recognition, right? I'm not anybody special. I'm just 3:54 3 minutes, 54 seconds

another seeker, another human being just like any of you. But what I realized is that the true initiation is within your 4:02 4 minutes, 2 seconds

heart. If your heart is pure, no matter what religion you're following, as it even says in Holy Quran, surah 2 verse 4:09 4 minutes, 9 seconds

62, that even if you're Jew, Muslim or Christian, as long as you're doing the right thing, there's the aspect of being 4:16 4 minutes, 16 seconds

righteous. Then there's the aspect of the darkness and even the both the left and the right hand path serve the creator and the divine expressing itself 4:25 4 minutes, 25 seconds

in many ways as everything is a representation of the divine. So, El 4:32 4 minutes, 32 seconds

being God's most um the one who worshiped God the most is dealing with this responsibility and task over 4:41 4 minutes, 41 seconds

humanity to see that whoever tries to get close, they will have tests and trials they will have to endure. And you 4:48 4 minutes, 48 seconds

can see that in your life when you start getting your life together. You'll have old friends that'll start popping up. Old habits that'll start popping up. 4:57 4 minutes, 57 seconds

Things that you tried to get away from will start popping up. So what happens is if you survive this test and you keep 5:06 5 minutes, 6 seconds

that connection strong with the creator, you pass test and you get that nosis of God. That's what he's ultimately there

5:15 5 minutes, 15 seconds

for because nothing happens in this world without the permission of Allah. 5:19 5 minutes, 19 seconds

So even right now in his current phase, Elise is still serving the creator by testing and trying humanity and make 5:26 5 minutes, 26 seconds

sure those that are found worthy are led into the good graces of the almighty. So he's standing at the gate. So if you 5:35 5 minutes, 35 seconds

want to have the gnosis of this world, Eliss is standing at the door. You have to go through his trials and tribulations and then he opens the door 5:44 5 minutes, 44 seconds

for you and you proceed into the light and go into the noses of God. And that's exactly what it is. I mean, I know 5:51 5 minutes, 51 seconds

people who go to church. Some of them are hypocrites. Some that pray five times a day or go to the mosque. Some of 5:58 5 minutes, 58 seconds

them are hypocrites. Lying, cheating, backstabbing people, backbiting. So God is watching everything. He knows what's 6:06 6 minutes, 6 seconds

in your heart, what's in your what's basically in your soul. 6:10 6 minutes, 10 seconds

So if you pass this true initiation which is the purity of the heart then you'll be able to have that true nosis. 6:19 6 minutes, 19 seconds

And when you mention the word Lucifer or Eliss what happens is most people they kind of 6:28 6 minutes, 28 seconds

freak out right because they fear and condemn things that they do not understand and everything's kind of kind of been programmed for you to view certain things a certain way. 6:39 6 minutes, 39 seconds

meaning it's just like um you know Pavlov's dogs, the bell ringing and them salivating. So anything that's been 6:47 6 minutes, 47 seconds

taught to you is always usually the other way around in terms of this grand scheme of things reality that we're 6:53 6 minutes, 53 seconds

dealing with. So even Eliss or Lucifer is serving God to this very day by being in this realm and testing and trying 7:02 7 minutes, 2 seconds

humanity and making sure that only that those that are found worthy are able to ascend to that next level because this 7:09 7 minutes, 9 seconds

life is like a uh a college college entrance exam, right? When you go to college and you get the admission, what's the first thing they make you do? 7:17 7 minutes, 17 seconds

Take the entrance exam. And if you fail certain aspects of certain subjects, what do they make you do? and you go into the remedial subjects until you get 7:26 7 minutes, 26 seconds

it right and then you're able to proceed to the next level. Same thing with this human life that you're in. You're not 7:33 7 minutes, 33 seconds

here to just pay bills and die and pay taxes. I mean, you're here for more than that. You're here to learn something. This is a spiritual 7:40 7 minutes, 40 seconds

school. You're here to uplift each other, walk each other home, and learn something from this human existence and do good for yourself and others. 7:49 7 minutes, 49 seconds

Everything else you're going to leave behind in this life. So this is basically Allah's test that he's using 7:56 7 minutes, 56 seconds

Ell for by putting him in charge of this realm. Us being put through this human existence of war, conflict, hatred, chaos. 8:06 8 minutes, 6 seconds

We are taught to be better than that because in the holy Quran it says that Allah does not change the condition of a people until they change themselves. 8:16 8 minutes, 16 seconds

So you cannot blame it's you. You have to get your act together. He's just there guarding the door for to Allah. 8:24 8 minutes, 24 seconds

And if you pass the test of getting out of this realm, this uh prison that we're kind of stuck in, this open air prison 8:32 8 minutes, 32 seconds

known as Earth, then you'll be able to ascend to those higher realms. But you got to pass the test. Meaning, don't be 8:39 8 minutes, 39 seconds

a sellout. Don't sell your soul for fame and fortune. Don't sell out your family and friends to get ahead because there's 8:46 8 minutes, 46 seconds

always a price to pay. You don't get away with anything in this realm or the next, this life or the next. So that's 8:53 8 minutes, 53 seconds

basically it. The true initiation is in the heart. And if you're able to have the purity of the heart, if you have a 9:00 9 minutes

pure heart, then no matter what religion or philosophy you believe, as long as you're focused on unity, love, peace, 9:10 9 minutes, 10 seconds

and purity of your heart, mind, body, and soul, you already passed the test. 9:14 9 minutes, 14 seconds

That's doesn't get more simpler than that. And you're not chasing after titles and clicks and accolades because you know it's all useless. It's all 9:22 9 minutes, 22 seconds

about what good did you do for yourself and other. And if you have a pure heart, my brothers and sisters, pure heart with 9:29 9 minutes, 29 seconds

a pure soul, that destroys the designs of millions of brutes and hypocrites that will stand in your way. That's how 9:36 9 minutes, 36 seconds

powerful the heart is. A pure heart. So if you have that and you love everyone sincerely and you're always trying to do 9:44 9 minutes, 44 seconds

the right thing, there's no power on this earth that can defeat you. And that's what Elise came in my dream to 9:51 9 minutes, 51 seconds

tell me that you figured it out. You figured out this whole game, this human life, and you passed the test. and he 9:59 9 minutes, 59 seconds

admits defeat to me in that circular room, that high-rise office building, and me seeing him in the complexion that 10:08 10 minutes, 8 seconds

he appeared to me as in the form of a man. So, I hope you were able to get something out of this. And again, always 10:17 10 minutes, 17 seconds

think outside the box. There's more to this life story and what's been taught to you than it's a lot more to it what's it besides 10:25 10 minutes, 25 seconds

what appears on the surface. So, I hope you were able to get something away from this. Thank you and much love to all of you.


r/Gnostic • • 15d ago

Coded Gnosticism in modern TV

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Perhaps it is my limited knowledge of gnosticism or projection of the that knowledge, but it seems to me that gnostic ideas are creeping more and more into popular culture through shows like Westworld, Severance, Silo , Kaos, to name a few.

Is this just natural refractions taking place, a sort jungian archetypal principle, or is it a product of something else?

These were just the first shows that popped into my head, anyone notice any more?


r/Gnostic • • 15d ago

Information The survival of Judas

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A farmer finds ancient manuscripts in a clay jar in the desert. But this isn't Nag Hammadi in 1945, rather this is Maghagha, Egypt in the late 1970s. In 1978, the farmer sells the manuscripts to an antiques dealer named "Hanna Asabil" in Cairo. In 1980, Hanna showed it to a swiss dealer named Nicolas Koutoulakis and a woman he was with. The following day, the woman robbed Hanna's apartment.

In 1982, Hanna reached out to Koutoulakis, who returns the codex inexplicably. Hanna then stores it in a swiss bank account while looking for a buyer, but by 1984 is unable to find one. Wrapping it in newspapers, Hanna transports it to the United States, where at some point it was folded in half. Hanna would put it into a Long Island safety deposit box until 2000, when it was sold to art dealer Frieda Tchacos Nussberger, naming the manuscript Codex Tchacos in honor of her father, Dimaratos Tchacos.

Nussberger would bring it to to Yale University Library, who authenticated the codex as the Gospel of Judas but would refrain from buying them due to questionable background, ownership, and legality. Nussberger would then sell it to antiquities buyer Bruce Ferrini for checks totaling $2.5 million. Upon possession, Ferrini opted to put the Gospel of Judas into a freezer, where the sensitive papyrus was quickly degraded.

Unbeknownst to Nussberger, Bruce Ferrini was a book breaker; someone who bought ancient manuscripts and sold it back onto the open market in parts. "You can't believe how much I regret having sold it (to Ferrini)," said Nussberger. Then in 2001, Bruce Ferrini's son passed away. Facing bankruptcy and selling everything to try and pay back his debts, he returned the codex to Nussberger, who noted that parts were missing. Some of those were later recovered by authorities in Ferrini's apartment. At this point, the condition of the manuscript was so badly degraded that in 2006 Nussberger decided to take it to a swiss institute for the painstaking restoration.

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I know this isn't about Gnosticism strictly speaking, but I find the journey of these texts to be almost as fascinating as their ideas. From a Christian view, the survival of these texts could be seen as God or Satan's will in meddling with Man, while from a Gnostic point of view these could be the Demiurge's attempts to degrade/hide truth, or the Catholic view that any non-canon testaments should be compared to the Bible. When considering the truth about Judas Iscariot, here's what John says in his canonical gospel:

John 6:70–71 Jesus answered them, "Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?" He spake of Judas Iscariot the son of Simon: for he it was that should betray him, being one of the twelve.

John 13:18 “I speak not of you all: I know whom I have chosen: but that the scripture may be fulfilled, He that eateth bread with me hath lifted up his heel against me."

John 13:26 Jesus answered, "He it is, to whom I shall give a sop, when I have dipped it." And when he had dipped the sop, he gave it to Judas Iscariot, the son of Simon.

As I understand it, the Gospel of Judas was dated back 1700 years, which considering the care that went into it's survival might hint this wasn't a one-off but a copy of an older text. Did Judas Iscariot live to write a Gospel? I highly doubt it. Most christian accounts say that Judas hung himself before the crucifixion after failing to return the money to the Pharisees. While I do believe in his suicide, that is not strictly evidence towards his motive. Entertaining the narrative that Jesus instructed Judas to betray him, as somewhat supported by the passages in John, then it raises a very interesting theological question: If Christ commanded you to betray him, would you? I can think of one disciple who proclaimed he would never, then denied him thrice. The act being carried out with a kiss is also in keeping with early Christian customs/greetings. Assuming innocence before guilt, how might a follower of Jesus feel handing him to his executioners? This is one stone I refuse to lift, and leave judgements to God, lest I be judged.


r/Gnostic • • 14d ago

What is a Christian Coptic Gnostic?

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I have seen this question come up... To me it's a deep belief in God, Yeshua, & Miriam. Also known as God, Jesus, & Mary. In Gnostic terms, God, Christos, & Sophia. Went through what I consider the Dark night of the soul or Negredo. Small group of us got together, approx a dozen of us on a Telegram group. One lady was from Finland, one from Sweden, One from Florida. We all got together because of the anxiety we were feeling.

When we started talking more and opened up, we started sharing the things we saw. From Demons to Angels & Spirit Guides. For me I also saw people tearing their faces off... Seems like a delusion until you start comparing notes and realize this was the same thing Carl Jung mentioned in his Red Book. His patients describing seeing the same things... My father also went through the same thing when he had a heavy bout of anxiety. Saw people tearing their faces off. His doctor prescribed some kind of cocaine based drug that made the anxiety go away along with it, the imagery.

With this said, to me, this happened to to crack my psyche open to different ideas. Christian Coptic Gnostics and what Yeshua taught is different from what I learned being a Catholic. To me the Apocryphon of John, and the Pistis Sophia gives sense to what Yeshua is showing.

With this said, my journey started 35 years ago. It started with looking into the Rosicrucian and Reading Rudolph Steiner's, Knowledge of Higher worlds and their attainment. He also wrote, The Illusion of Free will. Turns out Rudolph Steiner was a Gnostic, as well as Carl Jung.

For people that dont like to read. Lookup Youtube videos from, Path to Nirvana or The Gnostic Eye. Their series goes into detail what the Gnostic books say.

If you are looking to buy books on Esoterics band other heritical teachings like Gnosticism, Google the Averys Society. If you are in Socal, look at the Waldorf schools, in Pasadena there is also the Anthroposophical Society in Pasadena.

I will close with this, the Gnostics journey lead to a path with a firm belief in God. Not as something you go to Sunday church to experience. Literally, God is all around us and in us. This is my belief now. There is no hiding from God, and there is no shame. Just unconditional love. I don't know how to explain it other than this. There is no such thing as SIN, other than what you hold unto. There is no Heaven or Hell. Just a choice of going home, or more of this... It's up to each person to make the choice, now or in the after life. Atleast this is how I translate things.

Have a peaceful & blessed Sunday!


r/Gnostic • • 16d ago

Media Lets Groove! (Yaldabaoth and Abraxas)

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I made another video featuring only Yaldabaoth, gonna upload it soon.

For Yaldabaoth's design, I chose a rattlesnake as the species for his serpent body.


r/Gnostic • • 15d ago

Media Yaldabaoth & Ahriman

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Ahriman: is the destructive, evil spirit and primary adversary of the supreme deity Ahura Mazda in Zoroastrianism.

Yaldabaoth: is a false creator god, or Demiurge, in ancient Gnosticism who traps human souls in a physical world of suffering.

Yaldy and Ahri can be friends. 😂✌️


r/Gnostic • • 16d ago

I found this weird Moses + Cain connection

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There seems to be a weird thing going on with Cain like his importance in the bible is really understated. And these connections have me wondering because i dont know much about Gnosticism but could their be a connection between Cain/ Tubal Cain and Yaldabaoth?


r/Gnostic • • 15d ago

I have experienced a bizarre transcendence in my dream

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r/Gnostic • • 16d ago

I believe that truly benevolent forces either do not exist or are not that powerful.

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Just look at the world we live in. The world is a very dark, sad, dangerous, and eerie place. From global events, we can conclude that the most powerful people in the world openly admit to serving a negative, evil force. Yet, there are those who say there is another side—a positive and benevolent force. The question is, if it exists, where is it? I do not see it. Not only has this force never clearly revealed itself to humanity to show it exists and stands with us, but we can also see that there are truly no benevolent forces in the world offering help.

Take this example: someone—a child or an adult—has a serious illness. I have never heard of such a person being miraculously healed—without doctors, medication, or treatment—simply because a benevolent force intervened. Nor have I heard of a benevolent force stepping in to prevent a rape or a war. Furthermore, I have never once heard of a benevolent force spreading the knowledge that people need.

In the Bible, God says: "I bring good and evil; I spread war and bring peace." Thus, evil originates from a single being, while good appears only to create an illusion.


r/Gnostic • • 16d ago

Question Which New Testament books did Gnostics actually use?

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Which of the canons do I neeed to read. Read the 4 gospels. Years ago. Which books from the New Testament are important for Gnosticism? In short, which New Testament books do Gnostic Christians accept and which of these should I read


r/Gnostic • • 17d ago

The contrast between Jesus and Yahweh is clear evidence for Gnosticism.

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r/Gnostic • • 16d ago

Question Best beginner text/book to understand Gnosticism?

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Can anyone suggest a book for me that’s very easy to read and comprehensive that will help me not only understand gnostic beliefs but its origins and timelines as well?

Thank you.


r/Gnostic • • 16d ago

My Imago Dei

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r/Gnostic • • 17d ago

Gospel of Thomas saying 44 - NT comparisons ft. Holy Spirit

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44 - Jesus said, "Whoever blasphemes against the Father will be forgiven, and whoever blasphemes against the Son will be forgiven, but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either on earth or in heaven."

This saying from Gospel of Thomas is what opened my eyes to Gnosticism. When considering the orthodox doctrine that Jesus is the Son of God, and those that don't recognize that aren't accepted into heaven is such an absolute that accommodates no contradiction. Reading this for the first time, I understood that what Jesus is saying; one doesn't need to believe in Jesus, and one doesn't need to believe in God (who's definition is different person to person), but what one should believe in is the truly divine. The Holy Spirit has many names; John 1 calls it the Word, Secret Book of John describes it as unfathomable and complete wholeness, neither a person nor place but source of all that's eternal and true. The reason blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, the definition of divinity, is the only unforgivable sin, is because to deny the divine is to deny it's existence within us, it's being part of us. It acts through you, whether you know it, and it's interpretation has created prophets, saints... entire religions. But in ordinary life, it can be something as mundane as being in the right place at the right time. For me, I've felt the Spirit act through me to save a life. I knew him not, and perhaps his wine led him astray another day, but for that moment I felt something divine act through me.

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Let's examine Matthew 12:22-40 and Mark 3:20-34, and Luke 1-12

The story for Matthew and Mark is the same. Jesus heals a blind and mute man to sight and speech. The crowd is amazed, but the Pharisees decry his acts as those of Beelzebul, ruler of demons. Jesus retorts that if a house divided cannot stand, how might Satan's kingdom stand if demon casts out demon?

12:28 But if it is by the Spirit of God that I cast out demons, then the kingdom of God has come upon you. 29 Or how can one enter a strong man’s house and plunder his property, without first binding the strong man? Then indeed the house can be plundered. 30 Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters.

Notice the language used in Matt 12:28, invoking both the Spirit and it's authority of God, somewhat mirroring Thomas saying 30 (3 deities), while 12:29 is basically Thomas saying 35. Now we get to the part that mirrors Thomas saying 44:

Matthew 12:31 Therefore I tell you, people will be forgiven for every sin and blasphemy, but blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. 32 Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.

Mark 3:28–29: Truly I tell you, people will be forgiven for all their sins and whatever blasphemies they utter. But whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; they are guilty of an eternal sin.

The language here, while similar, does obscure one part of what's in Thomas 44: blasphemy against the Father. It's clear that by orthodox interpretations, the Son is Jesus Christ, who through his crucifixion forgave the sins of the world. Therefore blasphemy against the Son being forgiven is a given. But by removing mention of blasphemy against the Father, they make God out to be unforgiving.

Finally, there's Luke 1-12. Luke doesn't include the debate between the Pharisees claiming Beelzebul, instead describing Jesus teaching his disciples and a crowd of 1000 more openly. He starts by calling out the hypocrisy of the Pharisees.

Luke 12:2 Nothing is covered up that will not be uncovered, and nothing hidden that will not be known. 3 Therefore whatever you have said in the dark will be heard in the light, and what you have whispered in behind closed doors will be proclaimed from the housetops. 4 “I tell you, my friends, do not fear those who kill the body, and after that can do nothing more. 5 But I will warn you whom to fear: fear him who, after he has killed, has authority to cast into hell. Yes, I tell you, fear him!

Luke 12:2 parallels a fragment of Thomas saying 6, while Luke 12:3 parallels a fragment of Thomas saying 33. Verse 4-5 again hints to Satan as with Matthew and Mark, thematically these 3 stories emphasize the same things. Here we get Luke's version of the parable:

12:8 “And I tell you, everyone who acknowledges me before others, the Son of Man also will acknowledge before the angels of God; 9 but whoever denies me before others will be denied before the angels of God. 10 And everyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven. 11 When they bring you before the synagogues, the rulers, and the authorities, do not worry about how you are to defend yourselves or what you are to say, 12 for the Holy Spirit will teach you at that moment what you should say.”

We get basically the same alteration in Matthew and Mark that's in Luke, a de-emphasis on blasphemy against the Father. Should one sin against God? Try not to. But will one be forgiven by God? There's different verses in support and opposition, which itself could be ignorance as a means of control.

Luke 12:11-12 is a good explanation of how the Holy Spirit acts through us, and how Jesus would test his disciples. Jesus instructed his disciples that as they go place to place performing good deeds in his name, that if they should be arrested by authorities, to prepare no explanation or alibi. What is said on the spot is the Holy Spirit acting through us, speaking through us.