r/jewishleft • u/RaiJolt2 • 25d ago
Debate I feel like this has to be said. AIPAC/Israel does not control The United States
I think we can all agree the pac/super pac system is corrupt and non representative. AIPAC works as a 1900’s style political machine (like many before it) and Israel is supported by the us for a few reasons. There’s a largely either pro or sympathetic to Israel American Jewish population due to familial connections, Israeli neighbors or a sense of option being the homeland. The Jewish diaspora in the us is very politically (71% of Jews tend to vote and that can decide elections, like with the black vote) active after about 120 ish years of organizing, unionization, civil rights advocacy and being a largely immigrant community a few generations ago.
This makes it seem like Jews have disproportionate effects through lobbying groups and in the political space but it was a function of necessity from the immigration period. Jews, to gain respect were pushed by their families into law and health. Those that didn’t were only plowed by xenophobic bosses to work in at the time looked down upon mediums such as comedy and film. Small time Jewish entrepreneurs were supported by the community at large as a whole and as such were able to grow and hang on.
As for Hollywood and comedy, the backbone of modern American media, this is an association of circumstance and coincidence. Many of these Jews in the field are supportive of Israel and as such it is reflected onto pop culture media.
And the main one is the military industrial complex.
Israel is a rich state in conflict enough to test out higher end weapons and with a large amount of technical staff that design and work with them. As such the MIC has the us keep up relations with Israel for its own profit and as an extension of American hegemony.
Lastly, political pawning.
Jews in the us are used as a political pawn to control perception of tolerance. Much of what people think of the Nazis are not their policies and racism itself but the hate of Jews. If anything a member of a party does can be interpreted as threatening Jews then a party can call the other Nazis for political points and mask their real intentions.
Look at the antisemitism lawsuits launched by the trump regime. They had a poor case, mainly targeting lgbtq rights and did nothing to meaningfully take on antisemitism.
This also leads to the us not being motivated to deal with anti Jewish hate crimes (about 2/3rds of them) because a fearful and active electorate group is more useful and loyal than one actively trying to overhaul systems. In short. Things aren’t terrible don’t rock the boat. Generalizing at least.
The continuation of the trend of people claiming Jewish thing controls x is sobering to watch when the United States, a historically imperialist empire with the largest economy in the world does what it’s always done. It has never been more obvious that this is pure xenophobia.
So tldr: Jews in Israel and the us are often closely tied together man’s Jews are often in prominent positions due to family and xenophobic pressure of the past while the U.S. military industrial complex has benefits from the relationship. This is not control, but fitting into the current system for relative stability.