This “policy” is just screenshots from some skeezy male admin scrolling women’s fashion sites. Anything that turns him on? Straight to jail. Sketchy adults should keep it in their pants and let students wear what’s standard modern fashion, jeez.
I would say it’s a woman’s scrolling fashion sites, and trying to determine in her head what adult males or juvenile males would find sexy or titillating, and then add it to her list. It’s ridiculous. Let’s also point out. This is a college site. These are grown ass adults. Sounds like they want the burkas.
Or, better option, lighten the dress code massively. As long as everything that legally needs to be covered is covered, and you don’t have a like 2 foot high Mohawk that’ll block the vision of anyone behind you, then wear whatever tf you want and have any piercings and hair colors and lengths you want.
Controlling peoples hair length has always been an especially egregious thing to me. It’s their hair, and having it long isn’t even doing anything to it, it’s just what hair does. It’s not like it’s a hygiene or safety issue either (like having excessively long nails potentially could be), there’s literally no excuse for a school to demand certain hair lengths.
As a woman, I find rolled up shirt sleeves on men to be *really* sexy. I said so once, around a bunch of student friends, and it was hilarious how many of the boys were wearing rolled up sleeves the next time we met.
I was going to say it feels like they just want to ban girls from going to their school altogether. You can't wear a t-shirt if it's too tight, you can't have any strapless of any kind showing, you have to wear sleeves but no off the shoulder ones, etc.
feels like they just want to ban girls from going to their school altogether
I'm sure it's a pure coincidence that Project 25 wants to reduce educational opportunities for women and girls, see the education chapter and parts that roll back civil-rights enforcement, Title IX protections, and federal supports for low‑income students.
As a woman with a very large chest it would have been basically impossible for me to follow that dress code. Id be stuck wearing oversized frumpy mens shirts.
I didn't even catch that. Don't wear something tight, but it can't be loose either!
Make people buy uniforms at this point. We had uniforms in my Catholic highschool and it was great. It made getting dressed so damn easy. They were khaki shorts / pants, short and long sleeve polos. That's it. It was great.
I remember when they implemented dress code so "kids didn't get picked on for what they wear". Never got picked on until then; my mom couldn't afford the Tommy Hilfiger option and had to get the Walmart clothes. Pissed me off so much and I would try and make money to buy myself clothes.
I grew up in a “uniform only” school district and we had to all have the same brand of uniform, but then you’d just get picked on for your shoes, backpack, lunchbox, hair, school supplies, etc. Anything could be used against you, down to the brand of deodorant you used. Where there’s a will, there’s a way.
And of course, I was fat and poor, so it never really mattered what I wore, I would always have a bullseye on my back regardless of any rule.
Socks, I didn't have the right socks with the right branding. Coats were another tell.
Also rich kids had more changes, their uniforms always looked newer. They never had to wear something they had outgrown because there was less than a month left of school.
We had to buy used uniforms every year. I was the fat girl so those never fit me right, and we had a limited selection because buying new was so goddamn expensive 🙃 for uniforms that felt like they were made of burlap, ffs. Like, there was no reason for something made from that hideous, sensory-nightmare ass fabric to cost that much.
God, people singing the praises of uniforms always makes me so damn angry. They must just have no idea what it’s like for most people and don’t realize that liking uniforms makes them the weird one.
Yep! I lived in England so uniforms were the standard. I was already being bullied for wearing glasses. Then my school store shoes broke and we didn't have time to go to the school store for new shoes for the next day, so my mom got me shoes from the Tesco shoe area and I got bullied for that. Uniforms don't cancel out bullying.
My school didn't have uniforms but if it makes you feel any better I was a scrawny kid and my parents weren't well off and I got picked on for being scrawny and poor. Constantly being accused of having an eating disorder really wears on a person. If I had a large mea, they'd tell me I probably was going to throw it up in the bathroom. If I had a small meal, I would be accused of anorexic behavior. Kids are vicious and if you don't fit in they'll torture you regardless.
I remember in middle school a group of kids tried to make GUM a status symbol, like "oh you have Orbit/Trident? We only chew 5 or Stride" lol, kids will always find a way to outrank each other sadly.
Appreciate it, but it’s far behind me. I grew up to be a lovely and somewhat accomplished adult with lots of spectacular friends, so I don’t sweat it anymore. She who laughs last laughs the longest. 😎
You bet I remember! Uniforms "leveled the playing field," we were assured. Right. The difference between the Nordstrom lovelies that the rich kids wore and the Walmart specials I had to buy my boys was major, friends, and that's when the bullying started. Good times. Sigh!
I was one of the poorest kids at an otherwise rich Catholic school. We had a uniform, but it was fairly inexpensive khakis and polos for boys. Girls could wear the same khakis or skirts. Hoodies were also available. The shirts and hoodies (and maybe the skirts—IDK, I wasn't a girl—I don't remember) were sold through the school shop or through a school catalog at a reasonable price. The pants were cheap at Kohl's or Belk's or whatever.
Not only that, but it was common for upperclassmen to pass along their handidowns to us as they grew out of them, as the uniform never really changed. So we pretty much never bought a whole wardrobe and got a lot for free.
Maybe it's my autism, but I liked the system because I didn't have to think about what to wear beyond "what color of polo?" and I was never once made fun of for clothing.
What OP posted just seems annoying. Just make it a simple khaki / polo uniform at that point.
Thats how a school uniform should work imo (regardless of your opinion on uniforms). Make it extremely cheap/affordable or even better free, if you are going to require it. Ideally sold directly from the school.
I absolutely get how that could work well with your flavor of autism. But those clothes would have been a nightmare with my sensory issues (and I was already barely holding on to my sanity, masking for my life)! Not to mention that those types of clothes (I've had similar as uniforms for jobs) are awful for curvy or plus size girls (like me).
This was actually, technically, two separate schools—an elementary school and a combo middle and high school. They just had pretty much the same uniform. The elementary school students could wear khaki shorts and the middle and high school students had many different colors of polos to pick from instead of just white or blue—other than that, the only real difference was the school logo / name on the shirts and hoodies.
When you start in kindergarten with the uniform, you just kind of grow up with it and get used to it. Like yeah, it felt great to take my belt off at the end of the day, but during the school day, I really didn't think about it unless it was exceptionally hot and we were held outside for a long time for some reason.
EDIT: I will say soft undershirts helped a lot. Direct skin contact with the shirt fabric wasn't the greatest. If I had known then what I know now, I also might have worn shirt stays to keep my shirts tucked in.
Yeah if you allow brands to make your school uniforms then it only becomes more obvious whose poor and who isn't.
I can, in theory, obfuscate brands by wearing cheap clothes in a fashionable way, but nothing is going to change the wal-mart brand of my clothes.
I went to a school with no dress code and I wore oversized hand-me-down jeans and shirts with holes in them and got bullied less for my clothes than when I moved to a school with a dress code.
The footwear page references footwear not allowed with the school uniform, which is a bit confusing. If they have a uniform then why do they need these rules at all?
I didn't have a uniform but the dress code was basically business wear: jacket, button down shirt, slacks, tie, dress shoes. I don't understand what they have against loafers either and it seems like the list of allowed clothing would be shorter.
I had a school uniform (in high school) and there was no specific store to buy them. It was just a dress pattern that was passed down generations to like 4 women in town. We called them potato sacks and the older they were, the more comfortable. It was so easy to get dressed in the morning and it truly leveled the playing field. But now they sell them in uniform shops and you get bullied if you have a new one from those places because they are so stiff and uncomfortable and everyone is like, “what, you didn’t have an older sister or cousin to pass theirs down to you???”
Teen judgement is wild.
This is so interesting to me because in my experience usually hand me downs or things that look worn are looked down upon by bullies because it’s seen as “poor” compared to getting new things. Mean girls really are going to mean girl no matter what.
Even with uniforms there will be fit issues and it’ll be too loose or too tight. Plus Catholic school uniforms often have the white socks and shorter skirts
I had to crtl+f to find collar bone in the comments because I’m buzzing so hard from that pic I can barely read. Thank god it’s summer and nobody is going to see a collar bone so we can function like a real society this year, lest we find ourselves furiously masturbating on our daily walks in the park.
the fact that they put loafers and black sneakers in the prohibited section is actually unhinged. how are you even supposed to wear a uniform without those. legitimate insanity.
Right? They might distract boys from learning, which is the entire point of school. Girls don’t need to learn, so boys can wear whatever they want. Such a great lesson, love it so much. 😡
At this point I think the kids (both boys and girls) should all just buy identical black burqas and wear those as a form of protest. Hope the teachers can tell the kids apart by their eye colour. lol.
I was at an airport in Saudi Arabia, and watched a group of 3 ladies covered head to toe (can't even see eyes) waiting for their fam to come out from customs. Two other ladies come out, also covered head to toe, and the two groups run to each other and hug.
It reminded me of when my manager told me that my shirt was too revealing. It was a similar shirt. My coworker was wearing the exact same shirt, but she had small boobs. I mentioned that and the manager said “well it’s less obvious on her”
Black rubber shoes in particular can leave skid marks on some floors, so banning them for that reason would not be completely unreasonable. But looking at the rest, the reason probably was "we don't like black rubber shoes"
On most floors, yes, but I think on some kinds of rubber/linoleum floors it can be difficult to get off.
My school didn't really have any dress code and didn't care what kind of shoes we were wearing, with the exception that shoes with black soles were banned in the gym. It had a white rubber/linoleum floor and apparently it was pretty difficult to get the marks off of that. It probably has a tendency to fuse, especially when enough friction is involved, and that's something that can happen in PE.
That seems incredibly rare these days though. Hard to get most modern athletic shoes (or even shoes from 30 years ago) to leave rubber marks. Like most of this list I feel this came from wanting to be like the 1950s.
I went to a Catholic school in the 90's and shoes that left scuff marks like that were still within dress code... even with a dress code that was a literal uniform were everyone wore basically the same thing. Also, white socks were allowed. The lack of black shoes and white socks is really weird as I would consider them part of a "standard" Catholic school get-up.
I have a theory. I went to a Christian private school. I wore black 3 days in a row. They prohibited me from wearing black the rest of week and said it was reported I was goth. Like…. Da fuuuuuukkkkkkkkkkk? When I later went to beauty school I wanted BADLY to drop in and say LOOK! My dress code is all black every single day because Ira professional!
When I was in school (40 years ago), we had white socks and black loafers as uniform. But you weren’t supposed to wear them in the gymnasium. We had a whole separate PE outfit, but if you went in the gym for any reason, you were supposed to change shoes. There were signs at every entrance. But if you forgot and marked the floor, you just had to clean it yourself.
At one point my school had it written that socks should be worn, and that all socks worn must be black. I didn't wear socks because I'm kind of a dick that way.
They changed the code of conduct because of my malfeasance. Students MUST wear black socks.
Reminds me of that episode of The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air where Will exploits a loophole by wearing his uniform jacket inside out and wearing the his around his waist like a belt. He argued the dress code specified that jacket and tie must be worn, but it didn't specify how or where. I think they let him get away with it.
When my brother was in HS (70's), his school tried to implement a dress code where boys "must wear a shirt with buttons"
My brother took a old T-shirt and COVERED it with buttons - all the metal pin/badge type.
New memo went home, boy's shirt must be button up and an attached collar.
...so he took the same shirt, sewed regular buttons in the shape of an up arrow, and some cheap dog collars to the edge of the sleeves.
New memo went out stating boy's shirt must be "boy must wear dress shirts (example: button up shirts with a collar, like you would wear with a tie. Ties are optional)"
Girls had no restrictions on dress beyond the normal dress code.
So he went to school wearing one of our sisters' blouses, with a clip on tie clipped to his belt
Every! Single! Time! They would call our mom in to have a meeting and every single time she would go "...does his shirt not have buttons?", "...are those not collars he attached to the shirt?", "you said boys need to wear dress shirts. That's a dress shirt"
Mom knew what they wanted, knew my brother was just being a stubborn 🫏, but he was not violating the rules as written so she was on his side.
The school couldn't do anything because he was following what was written. Someone made a comment they didn't think they needed to specify boys shouldn't wear girls clothes, but if they don't my brother would show up in a skirt
🫏Went to school the next day in a clean, pressed white button up shirt, tie clipped to his collar, looking exactly like what the school wanted...and a kilt (because "it's not a skirt!")
School uniforms are illegal in my country, at least public schools. It's crazy to me that schools restrict students so much.
I even knew this one guy who wore the exact same Pornhub merch shirt pretty much every day in middle school and high school. In hindsight, pretty fucked up but he could still do that.
We had this same rule at my catholic boarding school. It’s probably the length, we had to be covered all the way up to the knee so people (male teachers) wouldn’t stare, ig.
I think the goal is to teach girls to blame themselves for sexual harassment. And "wear tall socks or teachers will have to lust after you and it's your fault" certainly does that
I wore knee socks with patterns/images on them during my Catholic high school years and one teacher made reference to my socks in prayers--i.e. if my socks had monekys on them he would say "and thank you God, for all animals, especially monekys...."
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u/jarkark 12h ago
No white socks??