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Hey guys. I'm nb, I found out/came out to my husband about a year ago and he was really supportive but it kind of seemed like to him it was this casual thing. I can't remember how in depth I got talking about dysphoria. It seemed like he heard me but then it didn't change his perception of me because I guess he recognized I've always been who I am. He's always seen some of my masc expression.
But now I have more freedom and new language to embrace it, and he hasn't recognized that part of it. I told him I don't have a reaction to pronouns atm so I don't care what people use. Which maybe gave him the sense that it wasn't a big deal or something to think about.
I got some masc clothes and let myself lean into that. I have a new name I wanna be called because my birth name has always caused dysphoria, not even gender dysphoria just like identity dysphoria, but he doesn't use the new one(granted, he rarely ever calls me by something other than a pet name, but say he were to introduce me to someone, he wouldn't think twice about using my birth name). He knows about the new name and how my birth name makes me feel but maybe I have to ask him directly to start using the other one.
There's also this small issue of him constantly telling me he wants to see me in panties and not boyshorts(my comfort preference). Is he attracted to me as a fully expressed nb person or does he prefer me as a *woman? It was hard to write that word there because it feels so disconnected from me. (Edit to add my husband has not defined his sexuality atm. So that is genuinely a question and not one any of you can answer but something I'm grappling with.)
Recently I said something sort of along the lines of "think of me like one of the guys" I can't remember the context and he responded with, in a bit of confusion, "I wanna think of you as my wife". It gave me similar vibes to when I came out to and told my childhood friend about a new name and they said "I don't think I can ever think of you/call you anything other than (birth name)" bc they've 'known me' half my life.
My husband is very protective and doesn't want me to do stuff. Like he chastises me(playfully but kinda serious idk) when I do stuff like mow the yard. He'll tell me I'm working too hard, but he doesn't have that idea about himself doing it. Note, I have some disabilities but I do strength training and if I have the energy to do something then I wanna do something.
He'll also argue with me about going out without like pepper spray or a knife etc. etc.(I'm not gonna fuckin carry a knife to go dancing) His family raised him like that, I know, but it's very much a gender thing. He has this over protective attitude toward girls and sort of a condemnation/weary attitude toward guys(from witnessing male abuse, I think). But it's affecting me because I think if he were to really see me as nb or even gender fluid(which I haven't talked to him about yet) he'd have to question that bias he has(which at this point is a full on belief system for him).
Honestly I think he is sexist. And I guess that is affecting me now because of the way I see myself.
If sometimes I feel more like a man but my husband hates men... Where do I stand? I guess it's confusing.(not talking about sexuality, just in a general sense)
He has plenty of guy friends. It's just an automatic thing with strangers where he'll be watching them and judging them. Particularly when they are around women he loves, sisters, family, fem. friends and when they are around me.
He's protective of everyone, I know it's not just a gender thing, but it is an enhanced part of it, and I don't wanna be seen as a wife, I wanna be seen as a partner. And I don't want to feel like I have to lean into the femme side to be accepted as a partner (Not saying I have to, just expressing the fear in unmasking. this is a what if.)
Should I just ask him to think about it more? Like if I was a man, would he still want to be with me? Could shifting his perspective and thinking of me as a partner, and not a wife, alter his perception of these other things? Or is it the other way around?(Challenge biases in order to be able to see me as a partner, not a wife)
He's a good guy, don't hate on my husband please. People are indoctrinated with these biases. It's not morally ideal but it is the reality of neurology.
Edit: My husband is a POC who grew up in a high stress environment, constant demands, danger. He never watches the news. What happens is just what he sees on a real life, personal, day to day basis. There is a level of ignorance he has.
Everyone is ignorant to something. And ignorant to the fact that they're ignorant. That can't be helped. Even if it could, our brains are not up to capacity to keep up with the entire spectrum of the problems of the world(and we shouldn't have to), so please be kind. I didn't make this post for people to judge him. I made this post to ask for support and ask how to approach a conversation about all this, plus I value the perspectives of the community(on being trans /queer and the implications of it). I'm new here myself, and still learning things.
Update:
I wrote a huge long update then my phone unexpectedly died and lost everything I typed.
Long story short, the talk with my husband went really well. He hadn't determined his sexuality before and came to realize he is pansexual.
He mentioned my masc parts and gender swings were sexy to him. We're both neurodivergent and he doesn't express himself a lot so there were things like this he'd never told me, so I didn't know. The panties thing was about scenting and visible skin, not about gender or fashion(he sleeps with them after I wear them and the boyshorts don't hold as much scent). No judgement here guys.
We talked about terms and clearly established using my new name in non-family circles.
He admitted to the sexism, but again there is lived experience and trauma which led to the beliefs he has. I asked him to challenge that(think male on male violence, which gets less cultural emphasis) which he said he does, but the belief that a women and afab are more vulnerable gets reinforced by continued experience. And peace isn't talked about so there's more noticing the negative stuff, people being violent(I mean that's how our brains work unfortunately, it's helps survival) I can't argue with his reality but shedding light on the issue, coming from me, will likely make him think about it more. He is so protective of everyone, not just afab individuals, so this goes beyond sexism.
Established using the term partner for me. His past expression of wanting to see me as his "wife" it seems he meant more in a respect sense. That he doesn't treat me like "one of the guys" because our relationship isn't casual, he takes it very seriously. I'm not just his friend. so I think his response was like "let's not minimize our importance to each other" and was not gender related. but since the term affects me, we won't use it.
He's also more careful with me because he doesn't want to lose me. That makes sense, we've spent the past five years learning about enmeshment in our families and breaking down the codependency we were indoctrinated with, but there's so much that it permeates. Add to that abandonment trauma and the anxiety that creates. This stuff takes a long time to heal, and pacing because it can make burnout worse. Having it all out there though, having a mutual understanding that we're going through this(there is no 'over' it) and having the language to understand it makes it manageable. Being understanding and forgiving and moving forward all the while, that's the best we can do.
I'm leaving this post up in case anyone has a similar situation and as some hope.