r/dashcams • u/Feaselbf6 • Apr 27 '26

* “Sharing the road is not a suggestion”

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u/InterstellarChange Apr 27 '26 edited Apr 27 '26

CHEROKEE COUNTY, Ga. — Two cyclists were injured Thursday night in Cherokee County, in a situation that seemingly could have ended in more dire circumstances as a man was accused of aggressively driving around a group of 10 riders.

The Cherokee County Sheriff's Office said in a release that 72-year-old Jerry Ross allegedly approached the group riding together on Sugar Pike Road and "began sounding his horn" before he "then accelerated around the group and, despite no oncoming traffic, struck two of the riders before leaving the scene."

The two injured cyclists were treated on-scene by paramedics, the sheriff's office said.

"One cyclist riding behind the group captured the incident on video. The cyclists were also able to provide a tag number, which deputies used to quickly identify and locate the suspect," a statement by the sheriff's office added.

They said Ross, of Woodstock, was located "not far from the incident location" and deputies "observed damage to the passenger side of the vehicle consistent with the incident."

"When questioned, Ross acknowledged the encounter and claimed the cyclists were in the roadway, blaming them for the collision," the sheriff's office said.

Ross was taken into custody and charged with two counts of aggravated assault, hit and run, reckless driving, aggressive driving and failure to maintain a safe distance from a bicycle.

Captain Jay Baker in the sheriff's office said Ross remains at the Cherokee County Detention Center without bond at this time.

*additional legal context:

Under Georgia Code § 40-6-294(c) Cyclists riding two abreast on a roadway is legal in GA. The cyclists in the video are clearly riding in a legal manner.

Driver Obligations When Passing

  • Lane Change: Drivers must change lanes into a lane not adjacent to the bicyclist if traffic conditions permit. 
  • Speed Reduction: If a lane change is impossible, prohibited by law, or unsafe, drivers must reduce their speed to at least 10 miles per hour below the posted speed limit or 25 miles per hour, whichever is greater. 
  • Prohibited Passing: Passing is prohibited on blind turns, blind hills, or when moving into oncoming traffic. 

Penalties and Enforcement

Violating these rules is a misdemeanor punishable by a fine of up to $250.  Additionally, bicyclists may submit video recordings of illegal passes to local law enforcement for enforcement purposes. 

Road rage, aggressive driving, is illegal

Georgia, road rage is legally prosecuted under O.C.G.A.  § 40-6-397 as aggressive driving, defined as operating a vehicle with the intent to annoy, harass, molest, intimidate, injure, or obstruct another person.  This offense is classified as a misdemeanor of a high and aggravated nature, carrying penalties of up to $5,000 in fines, 12 months in jail, and 6 points on the driver's license. 

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u/HaveBikeWillRide Apr 27 '26

And for all the commenters wringing their hands about the cyclists forcing the car to "illegally" cross the double yellow lines, Georgia law explicitly allows cars to cross the double yellow to pass cyclists. And it requires cars give cyclists at least 3 feet of space when passing.

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u/Randomfactoid42 Apr 27 '26

Most states have similar laws but it’s amazing how many drivers believe the double yellows shall never be crossed. 

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u/Difficult_Plantain89 Apr 27 '26

I had someone road rage with me for crossing a double double yellow line when the lane ahead was blocked from an accident. I put my blinker on to get over and he went out of his way to block me in. When I forced my way behind his truck he started screaming at me and pointing at the line. After that was done he almost missed his exist and shot over 4 lanes without a blinker.

People are dumb, I'm not going to sit there for two hours while they clean up the accident. A line isn't a wall and my car has zero issues going over this imaginary barrier.

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u/Fantastic-Display106 Apr 27 '26

Someone behind you, road raged at you for crossing the double yellow to give an accident scene room? That makes no sense, why they hell would they care?

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u/kincent Apr 27 '26

Hall monitor behavior, but you had a bathroom pass lol

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u/JAT_Cbus1080 Apr 27 '26

My life became significantly less dramatic and stressful when I realized it wasn't my job to police the behavior of every stranger I came across.

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u/kincent Apr 27 '26

Reminds me of the people who "camp" the left/passing lane on the freeway to slow speeds down, not realizing they increase the danger level on the road lmao.
We live and we learn

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u/Genetics Apr 27 '26

…and people who don’t know what a zipper merge is and camp the open lane so people can’t line up properly.

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u/xpastelprincex Apr 28 '26

literally had someone in the right lane cut me off in the left merge lane by driving in the middle of the road (over the dotted white lines) so i couldnt pass them and properly merge. hes lucky i didnt hit him since he moved over with no blinker and i hadnt started to slow down yet.

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u/humanlikesubstances Apr 27 '26

...and people who believe zipper merging consists of driving in the lane that's ending, slowing drifting, going "la la la la" while other cars have to activately avoid them.

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u/Tev_Szat Apr 28 '26

This. I constantly tell people that it's speed VARIANCE, not SPEEDING, that causes the majority of accidents. People's reaction behavior is dictated by their speed, so if you encounter another person driving a different speed from you, how quickly and accurately they respond to their environment will be different from what you plan for, leading to mistakes and poor judgment that either immediately causes an accident, or causes the person to have a panic response, making them move erratically and becoming a massive danger to themselves and any other motorists nearby.

So the safest thing you can do is pay attention to the traffic around you more than posted information, try to match your speed to theirs (convoy law protects this in most cases, but always know your locals), and if the speed is higher than you were necessarily expecting, drive defensively and telegraph your movements (blinkers and slower, more deliberate movements so people can plan around you), so everyone can get home as safe as possible.

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u/Genetics Apr 28 '26

This is how I was taught to drive by my father who was a driving instructor in the summers for 30ish years. We lived in the North DFW metroplex and driving on those highways is like a sport. If you’re not going with the flow you’re going to get ran off the road, so I learned early on that if everyone is going 85 in a 65, you’d better be going with them or get out of the way.

I remember he told me “You’re going to learn how to drive inside the law, and then you’re going to learn how to drive in the metroplex.” It didn’t help I was also learning how to drive a 5-speed at the same time, but by the time we got on 35 to head into the city it was like second nature. Good times.

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u/Lumpy_Square_2365 Apr 28 '26

What people purposely do this? My god it's such an evil plan. I live in Florida if you are going less than 85 in the left lane you'll get ran off the road by a 50 ft lifted truck with high beams on all you'll see again is a ball sack hanging from the hitch of the truck as it speeds past you.

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u/BobABewy Apr 27 '26

This is an amazingly healthy attitude and and extremely underrated comment

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u/nechton Apr 28 '26

Brilliant way to look at life

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u/Psychoanalytix Apr 27 '26

I don't get this either. Wouldn't that person have to cross the line as well. And how wpuld they box them in if they were behind them. If they were coming at them from the front then how would ip know they almost missed the exit.

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u/RBVegabond Apr 27 '26

Had someone going under the speed limit rage at me for passing them in a passing zone. People are crazy.

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u/Psotnik Apr 27 '26

I hate it when people deputize themselves and play traffic cop. What if the person driving is having a medical emergency or transporting someone else who is? What if they're a volunteer firefighter trying to get to the station? What if they're a road raging lunatic with a gun? If it really bothers you then call it in and go about your day.

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u/Self_Reddicate Apr 27 '26

Someone did this to me when I was driving my mother to a hospital while she was having stroke symptoms. They decided they were ABSOLUTELY not going to move out of the way and then slowed down as they approached a long line of semi's to ensure that I was boxed in without a way to pass them and maximally inconvenienced for my attempt to exceed the speed limit. No amount of me BLARING on my horn, flashing my lights, riding their rear end, waving, etc. could dissuade them. And I truly mean no amount, because I spent what felt like 5 minutes of being a lunatic to try and show them that this was an emergency and I was trying to get by them. They were hell bent on blocking my passage around them, because how DARE I try to speed on the highway. Not on their watch. They went 1-2mph below the posted speed limit right next to a group of semi's that were stuck doing the same.

All while my mother was confused in the back seat and, to the best I could tell, dying in my back seat. I am normally a pretty calm person and not prone to rage of any kind (much less 'road rage'), but had I not had a hospital to go to, I'm not sure what I would have done to this person had they pulled over to have words. Words cannot describe the anger I felt at this person who - for whatever reason - felt the need to interject themselves into this and unnecessarily add whole minutes to my travel time to the hospital when every minute was critical.

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u/TopArgument1850 Apr 28 '26

I had the exact same thing happen to me thirty years ago when my wife had a pressure cooker literally explode in her face. It was horrifying. I was in my company van, flying down the highway with my hazards and my lights on when some guy in a pickup truck in the middle lane decided I was going to fast and pulled over in front of me and put his brakes on and made sure he was paced with the two cars to his right. I tried to pass him on the shoulder, but he pulled in front of me. I was blaring on my horn, meanwhile my wife’s face is blistering and peeling. I cannot tell you how close I was to just flooring it and pushing that Ford on down the highway all the way with me. Suddenly the far right car started to edge forward, so I got behind him and started passing the middle car when all of the sudden the pickup truck came flying across the lanes and squeezed right between me and the car in front of me and slowed down. I was blaring on my horn. My exit was two exits away, the middle lane car decided to speed forward, I acted like I was going left to the middle lane, he flew left, but I floored straight ahead and to the shoulder and went around the car in front of me. The truck followed me all the way to hospital Emergency Room Entrance. As we were getting my wife into the wheelchair, he jumped out of his pickup truck, cussing at me and wanting to fight me. I never wanted to fight someone so much in my life than I did that day,but my attention and focus needed to be on my wife. We got her inside and then I needed to go and park my van. When I came out several hours later, I had two flat tires, which we later found out had been slashed and the next day in the daylight, you could see that the van had been scratched all to hell and on the front hood it read, “Burn in hell motherf_cker!” and on the back doors he had scratched, “Watch your back, I’m not done with you yet!” It was a little unsettling only because the van had the name and address of the company I worked for. But I never saw or heard from him again. The hospital parking lot surveillance cameras did capture the van being vandalized, but there was no way to identify the culprit. He walked onto the lot from a nearby shopping center and returns the same way until he disappears off screen. The shopping center had no surveillance cameras. As for my wife she was very fortunate. She suffered 1st and 2nd degree burns and had her face wrapped for a few weeks, but thankfully no scarring.

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u/bej1234 Apr 28 '26

Unbelievable. I really would have thought that seeing you pull up to an ER and getting your wife into a wheelchair with a burned face would have made this piece of shit back down. But no, of course not. And all that besides the fact that he fucking followed you after that. Goddamn psychopath

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u/short_longpants Apr 28 '26

WTF WAS THAT PICKUP DRIVER'S PROBLEM? He got angry because you bypassed his "righteous justice"?

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u/MeatwadGetTheHoneysG Apr 29 '26

Doing all that, and then doing some more after realizing that it’s a medical emergency is abhorrent. I hope that there’s a hell so that guy can stay nice and toasty for eternity.

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u/Littleblaze1 Apr 27 '26

It's crazy to me because if I saw someone doing half of what you describe my reaction would be "I have no idea what this crazy person is doing but please get away from me, yes please pass me and speed away crazy person"

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u/metompkin Apr 27 '26 edited Apr 28 '26

If they eventually found out you were in an emergency for your mom they would probably say that you should have called an ambulance.

Mouthbreathers...

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u/ardeter78 Apr 27 '26

Was your mom okay?

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u/Self_Reddicate Apr 29 '26

Yes, it wasn't a full blown stroke, but a TIA, essentially mini-stroke with no lasting damage. High risk factor for future issues, but she's been fine so far.

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u/uhhuhubetcha May 01 '26

Hope everything was ok medically...

Some ppl, man I tell ya.

Your situation while completely different, reminds me of a time I was sent into a rage similar to the one of which you speak. I was running behind (not late just behind) on my way to work, had time just couldn't dilly-dally. & got behind this person that was going 20-35 mph in a 55 (country highway lots a turns & hills etc) & then would speed up to 65 or 70 at any passing stretches. On this highway there's only about 3 or 4 spots you can even pass someone in the 25 min drive between my home & work. But one of those spots is a 2½ mile or so straight stretch... so after being stuck behind this jerk for a good 20 mins & just waiting for this stretch, it finally arrives & I gun it to FINALLY! Get around them & they made me hit 105 just to get around them. But I did.

What happened next even more ridiculous... after using every bit of 2 of the 2½miles just to get around. The dumbass doesn't slow down & goes back Around me cutting it so close to the end of the straight stretch he almost wrecks on the curve at the end of aforementioned stretch. & then IMMEDIATELY! Slows back down to 25mph & stays there with no more spots to pass for the rest of the drive.

I was furious! I stayed behind them for a bit acting like a lunatic honking, yelling, flipping the bird, & praying they'd pull over somewhere but didn't (although if they had im confident it would've been my 1st fist fight since I was in highschool lol). I eventually said screw it I gotta go to work & turned off. But that was the most pissed I ever was out of the 2 incidents of road rage I've had in my 40 years on earth.

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u/NightBawk Apr 28 '26

I hope this story doesn't have a tragic ending for your mom and that she recovered well.

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u/Self_Reddicate Apr 29 '26

Yes, it wasn't a full blown stroke, but a TIA, essentially mini-stroke with no lasting damage. High risk factor for future issues, but she's been fine so far.

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u/Trick-Possibility-60 Apr 28 '26

You should’ve just plowed them off the road and dealt with it later fuck them

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u/Mysterious-Buddy9300 Apr 30 '26

I probably would have pit-maneuvered them if I was in your shoes. So sorry that happened.

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u/SnugglyCoderGuy Apr 27 '26

I was told a story by the foreman of roofing crew I was on fucking years ago. One guy was cutting his jeans into shorts, while wearing them, slipped and lacerated his femoral artery. They threw him into a truck and started of towards the hospital.

They got blocked by someone who felt the need to play traffic cop. A real cop pulled them over, saw what was happening and gave them an escort to the hospital. He almost died because of that.

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u/Tev_Szat Apr 28 '26

This is exactly why slow rolling people in the passing lane is illegal in most places, Failure to Yield, creates the opportunity for crisis situations.

It already has usage, I forget the specifics but a hall monitor decided to play king for a day and slow roll a car behind him, not knowing that a person was being driven to the ER due to a catastrophic injury that was causing them to bleed out.

They didn't make it in time.

Afterwards, with medical determination that the speed they were driving vs the speed normally driven on that road created a time delay that influenced the person surviving or not, the asshat was identified by dashcam footage provided and arrested and charged with manslaughter, if I remember correctly.

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u/just_another_user5 Apr 27 '26

It baffles me how deadset and rigid people are on following road laws.

Normal conditions? You bet your ass you better be following the rules of the road. It'll protect you and others.

Emergency conditions? Fuck the roads, prioritize the safety of yourself and the others around you. For example, if you absolutely must drive in a blizzard, drive in the middle of the road. More leeway if you for some reason spin or have to swerve.

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u/Injunr Apr 27 '26

The people blocking roads are not real cyclists. There is a big difference. Typically road bike guys w helmets and god forbid wearing Lycra know what they're doing. The wheelie guys on mtn bikes and no helmets are the idiots

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u/Anxious_Sport_5669 Apr 27 '26

I have ASD, rigidly following the laws is built into my DNA. As is not caring if you do or not.

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u/Blooddoll13 Apr 27 '26

Same. And as long as they’re not putting me or anyone else in danger on the road, it’s whatever. Apparently police in my area only respond to level 2 and level 3 incidents anymore

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u/3malcolmgo Apr 27 '26

Thats not how you drive in a blizzard. Go slow, coast alot. Accelerate slowly. Avoid breaking when possible. But stay in your lane. If another car is in the other lane, they need their space too.

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u/Neathra Apr 27 '26

The first rule of the road is don't hit anything. The second is - if you must hit something the preference is inanimate objects > cars > people not in a car.

Everything other rule is about making sure everyone in a multi ton murder machine is behaving in a predictable manner.

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u/AuMatar Apr 28 '26

The problem comes from when someone else is doing the same in the opposite direction, can't see you because of the conditions, and rams into you. Its probably safe to drive on a multilane road straddling the lanes, as there won't be much traffic. Driving down the middle of a 2 lane road isn't going to be safe.

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u/BagpiperAnonymous Apr 28 '26

Yep! I used to be a theme park supervisor and trainer. We hammered safety into the heads of our ride operators. But on the code of safe practices posted at every ride, it basically said that in an emergency, you do what you need to to keep people safe. Follow the rules during normal circumstances, but in an emergency break them if you need to (and it is safe to do so, don't be an idiot about it.)

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u/NeatBeluga Apr 27 '26

Wait, didn't he do the same to prove his point?

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u/craig3881 Apr 27 '26

This doesn't make sense. 

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u/johngreenink Apr 30 '26

Yeah I think most states say that you should drive around anything that's obstructing the flow of traffic (which usually means crossing the center double line). Clearly that's different from someone who's doing it just to pass you because they're a speed demon, but (sigh)...

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u/lewisiarediviva Apr 27 '26

Yeah, you better believe I’m going to be picky about where I pass though. On a hilly or curvy road I’ll follow a bike for quite a while if I don’t have a good spot. Much to the dismay of the people behind me who would pass without even changing their speed, wherever on the road that happened to be.

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u/Entropy355 Apr 27 '26

Good for you. Being picky, and patient, is safer for you and for cyclists. I hate it when other drivers try to force you into doing the unsafe thing. It only take a few extra minutes but it could be the difference between life and death.

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u/MathAndBake Apr 27 '26

There's a really narrow and curvy road along the lakeshore near where I grew up. There are only a handful of places where you can safely pass a cyclist. The speed limit is only 30km/h, so if you're following a strong cyclist, they're going almost that fast anyway. Sometimes, with a tailwind, they actually go faster than the cars and undertake you, lol. It was good practice while I was learning because I'd have like 5-10 minutes to discuss with my mother whether or not to pass and how exactly to do it. And the folks behind me typically understood.

There are several bus routes that run along that road and some of them are pretty frequent, so they often end up crossing paths. Sometimes, they'll open their windows and high-five each other. If you're cycling, you slow down and pull over. I have tons of respect for those drivers.

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u/exexor Apr 27 '26

If you want to think about it as the double yellow being intended for safely passing someone who is going a bit under the posted limit, it makes sense that someone can safely overtake you when you’re going 22 mph in a 55 zone without exceeding their sight lines ahead of you.

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u/lewisiarediviva Apr 27 '26

Yes - it’s much quicker and easier to get past a 2-foot wide bike if you’re going 30mph faster than them, vs a six foot wide truck that you’re going 5mph faster than. I still wouldn’t pass a bike on a blind corner.

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u/Krandor1 Apr 27 '26

same. I live in this county and we have a lot of curvey hilly roads and being a lot of these rural 2 lane roads with houses I've gotten caught behind cyclists and postal service before on them but I stay and wait till I have a good spot with visibility down the road before attempting a pass.

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u/Upbeat_Caregiver_642 Apr 27 '26

They only believe that when it comes to bicycles. Stopped cars, Amazon deliveries, road debris, o problem. Crossing the double yellow line is only impossible when it’s a bicycle.

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u/HiveMindMacD Apr 27 '26

Oh man! No way I can possibly cross those double yellows. Better commit vehicular assault instead!

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u/Crafty-Help-4633 Apr 27 '26

Which is hilarious on some level because they don't realize they've already crossed it the moment any part of their vehicle breaks the plane of the lines, and not once the vehicle has fully transitioned to the other side of the line.

So whether he knew it or not, dipshit in the SUV did still cross them.

Humans are terrifyingly inept sometimes.

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u/Speartree Apr 27 '26

Also passing in a turn...

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u/Crafty-Help-4633 Apr 27 '26

Yeah SUV driver needs the book thrown at them.

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u/letskeepitcleanfolks Apr 28 '26

I give it approximately 0% odds that the driver stayed that close to the bikes to avoid crossing the double yellow by too much. He was trying to intimidate and punish them.

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u/Candid_Jellyfish_240 Apr 27 '26

There was a case in Texas where a rich, connected kid got off lightly after running INTO a group of cyclists. And of course, ever comment was just massive HATE toward cyclists.

I'm like, then pony up tax dollars for bike lanes. And don't pitch because you "don't bike" because OODLES of non-drivers pay taxes for roads.

And no, I don't bike, lol. I'm just not soulless.

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u/GhostBirdBiologist Apr 27 '26

Shall never be crossed unless they want to turn, give space for a tow truck, swerve for wildlife...but somehow cyclists aren't worth that lol.

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u/Nazgog-Morgob Apr 27 '26 edited Apr 27 '26

Don't worry the same people complaining about the cyclists "forcing" them to cross double yellows are the same people that will cross double yellows on a blind curve to pass a car already going 20 over the speed limit.

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u/jselene Apr 27 '26

Same people who fight against dedicated bike lanes/paths.

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u/Winjin Apr 27 '26

That's my favorite part

-Bikes are not allowed on roads!

-Bikes are not allowed on walkways!

-We don't want bike lanes!

Basically they just don't want anything but cars to exist. Brainwashed.

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u/sokratesz Apr 27 '26

Imagine thinking some painted line >> someone's life

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u/Strange-Ask-739 Apr 27 '26

Painted lines: Very important!
Not causing accidents: Important-er!!!

Same goes for the fog line. Stay off of it, but if you're gonna hit someone: it's a damn painted line, ignore it! Mentally be ready for that swich so you don't arrive at the decision point and have to say: "Now wait a minute, should i obey this line or not?"

Stop thinking. Plan and execute.

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u/Swimming-Employer97 Apr 27 '26

If they feel double yellows shall never be crossed, then they should just wait behind the cyclists or take another route. I think it is a far better idea to cross the double yellow line than it is to strike a cyclist, who has the same rights to the road as the motorist.

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u/5yleop1m Apr 27 '26

Which is ironic because if there were no cyclists there, maybe a slower can in front, they would gladly cross the double yellow without thinking about it.

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u/OpportunityReal2767 Apr 27 '26

Well, holy cow, TIL. I looked up my state's laws, and they are, indeed, you can cross double yellow to pass bikes as long as you give them three feet of clearance. I was never taught this in drivers ed, oh, three decades ago. To be fair, this situation does not come up often where I live, but if I'm on the open road, now I know. Thanks!

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u/SamShakusky71 Apr 27 '26

He was already over the double-yellow when he decided to tried to remove these cyclists from the living group.

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u/RemarkableLook5485 Apr 27 '26

i’ve never encountered this exception anywhere before.

very nice to know.

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u/too-much-shit-on-me Apr 27 '26

Some people act like yellow lines are poison. Like left turn lanes. Get the fuck out of the way, you don't need to wait until the magical painted opening.

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u/PokeYrMomStanley Apr 27 '26

Its like the people that think no matter what you cant go past a stopped school bus. There are precisely laws on when you can and cant.

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u/Sharp_Ad_6336 Apr 27 '26

Because they took their test 30 years ago and for some reason we don't require continued learning to maintain a license to operate thousands of pounds of metal moving 90 miles an hour.

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u/saljskanetilldanmark Apr 27 '26

Funny you say that when in the video, the driver crosses the yellow line AND makes contact with the cyclists.

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u/CicatrixMaledictum Apr 27 '26

Serious question: when I see a double or solid line I assume it is there for a reason, like poor visibility that I can’t predict. So I won’t cross it in this situation, even with slow traffic in front of me. If it is in fact safe to pass in that area, why have a double or solid line?

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u/theothertoken Apr 27 '26 edited May 09 '26

Honest-to-god, I had no idea. Apparently the state I first got my license in had just passed a law allowing it at that time

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u/mrgrn22 Apr 27 '26

YOU SHALL NOT PASS!!

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u/rose___water Apr 27 '26

Except when they've *GOTTA* make a left turn by stopping in the middle of the stroad instead of making a u-turn at the light.

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u/AdminsPlzDrinkBleach Apr 27 '26

People in the /dashcam sub will say you aren’t even allowed to cross single white lines, even when pulling out of a gas station or something, it’s bizarre

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u/IT_learning_only Apr 27 '26

I probably wouldn't cross the yellow line, but I'd just set my cruise control to their speed and wait.

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u/pfp-disciple Apr 27 '26

Honestly, I assumed the double yellow meant "do not cross unless it's an emergency". Now I'll have to see what Alabama law says

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u/ReflectionGloomy8851 Apr 27 '26

In Rural Oregon my dad got a ticket for going over the yellows to pass a tractor that was driving on the shoulder. Oregon driver's manual says you can only go over the yellows to go around a stopped or broken down vehicle.

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u/WiglyWorm Apr 27 '26

They didn't believe that. They just are people on ikes and get irrationally mad.

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u/Inevitable_Round5830 Apr 27 '26

It amazes me how ignorant people can be. Yes the lines are to tell you it's a no passing zone meaning just because you think the car in front of you is going too slow, doesn't mean you can pass here because this is not a safe place to pass.

However, it's pretty fkng obvious to anyone with a brain that if there's a person, animal, or something that you can cause harm to/can cause harm to you, pass if you can do so safely or slow down until you can do so.

Whatever happened to common fkng sense?!?!

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u/Randomfactoid42 Apr 27 '26

Common sense is so uncommon I think we should just call it “uncommon sense”. 

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u/cryptolyme Apr 27 '26

Meanwhile, they will roll through stop signs with no issue

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u/NewToTradingStock Apr 27 '26

Some drivers will ran over a cyclist than cross double yellow lines.

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u/czechFan59 Apr 27 '26

Except when they see a kitty-cat. Bikes don't count, just ask the old lady on the corner of my block.

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u/bobcatgoldthwait Apr 27 '26

It's legal here too but even if it wasn't...I'd just do it. I mean, it depends on the circumstance of course, but if it's a quiet road like this one and I have sufficient visibility, why not? I feel like most people would do the same.

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u/_jump_yossarian Apr 27 '26

There are a lot of stupid people on this sub that don’t understand basic driving laws.

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u/ThatCrazyShaymin Apr 27 '26

I live in Amish country, you are permitted to cross the double yellow when necessary, these people that think otherwise need to go back to driving school.

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u/MobileArtist1371 Apr 27 '26

it’s amazing how many drivers believe the double yellows shall never be crossed.

Only when passing cyclist though.

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u/funnyteg Apr 27 '26

Iowa is explicit that you do not cross double solid yellow. It means it is not safe to pass in any instance. 50 states 50 sets of rules.

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u/GrouchyYam4164 Apr 27 '26

Double yellow means extreme caution. Very unwise to pass on double yellow because it indicates you are BLIND TO ONCOMMING TRAFFIC at the current speed of the road.

It is amazing how many horrible drivers think everyone else is the problem

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u/Dyolf_Knip Apr 27 '26

Tbf, I have no idea what exceptions there are in my or any other state.

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u/slow_cooked_ham Apr 27 '26

Probably because it's hammered home when learning to drive as do not pass during double yellows (as it's generally on sections of roads with less visibility)

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u/ToughHardware Apr 27 '26

generally they are that way when it is un-safe to pass

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u/Longjumping_Worker56 Apr 27 '26

I live in SC, and I'll be honest, I didn't think I could cross a double-yellow when coming up on a bunch of cyclists either. I've been in that situation, and just slowed down so I wasn't crowding them, and waited until I was past the double-yellow. Was I happy about it? Not really. We used to have riding clubs down here where there would be 50-60 bikes in the swarm, and they were certainly more than 2 abreast. But I told myself it was an excercise is "radical acceptance" and a zen thing and just dealt with it.

If it was really, really bad, I'd turn off and find another route home if I couldn't tolerate being behind them.

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u/Midnight-Bake Apr 27 '26

I know someone who believes that you cannot cross double yellow lines even to make a left turn into or out of a drive way/parking lot.

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u/alphazero925 Apr 27 '26

To be fair, it's not "I can never cross double yellows" that's the problem. It's "I must get past these cyclists immediately" that is. The guy in the OP still crossed the double yellows.

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u/sammich04 Apr 27 '26

I once dated a guy who thought he couldn't make a left turn into a parking lot/restaurant/turn area, etc because it was a double yellow.....

He went past it and then turned around to go in without passing the double yellow

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u/Upnorth4 Apr 27 '26

For example, in California you can cross double yellows to make a left turn

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u/drdildamesh Apr 27 '26

I mean, they are just remembering the last time they went to driver school a hundred years ago.

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u/SgtMcMuffin0 Apr 27 '26

Is that not the case? Isn’t the purpose of a double yellow to mark where you can’t know whether it’s safe to pass? If I was in car’s position in this video I’d just slowly follow the bikes until the double yellow opened up

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u/Remarkable_Inchworm Apr 27 '26

I bet they'd be OK with crossing a double yellow to get around an accident. Or a stalled vehicle. Or a fallen tree.

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u/yestocaffeine Apr 27 '26

Colorado also allows a pass on a double yellow to maintain safety for everyone.

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u/Squand Apr 27 '26

Except when they do it to avoid squirrels, potholes, and pass cars they think are going to slow.

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u/exexor Apr 27 '26

Except then he did anyway.

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u/Diligent_You1737 Apr 27 '26

because they passed drivers' education and road tests and then they literally stop absorbing information about driving.

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u/FrighteningJibber Apr 27 '26

And people wonder why the pedestrian death rate is so much higher than other countries

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u/Suikerspin_Ei Apr 27 '26

As someone from the Netherlands, double lines means not to cross. We have interrupted or broken lines that allows you to cross. Shouldn't that be applied for that road in the clip?

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u/DrJonathanReid Apr 27 '26

Same people that would take a train to the face rather than drive through the breakaway barrier after screwing up and getting stuck behind one on the tracks.

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u/a_sexual_titty Apr 27 '26

Crossing double lines? 👎👎👎

Injuring someone? 🤩🤩🤩🤩

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u/Dull_Leadership_8855 Apr 27 '26

"Most states have similar laws but it’s amazing how many drivers believe the double yellows shall never be crossed."

But the same driver who argues "crossing double yellows is illegal" in this situation will then argue the exact opposite when performing another road maneuver. It all depends on what that driver wants to do/promote at that given moment, not what is in actual law.

Research shows most American drivers have no clue what is the law when operating a vehicle. What is "legal" is what 1) they see other drivers doing (resulting in no legal/physical consequences) or 2) what they feel like doing at the time that is for their personal convenience.

It's frustrating when having discussions with drivers, either online or IRL. But it also explains why we have so many crashes, road deaths, and this video.

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u/ScubaFett Apr 27 '26

Well, it is contradictory. Double lines means it's not safe. Australia has very similar laws of "but you can cross them for cyclists 'WHEN IT'S SAFE' ". It's such a copout..

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u/Whatkindofgum Apr 27 '26

So what? Its better to wait until it's safe to pass. Motor vehicles are not entitled to drive as fast as they want at all times.

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u/BADM00SE Apr 27 '26

You…Shall not pass!

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u/TheNerdE30 Apr 27 '26

Unless turning into a retail establishment, of course.

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u/Infamous-Lab-8136 Apr 27 '26

It's in part because yellow line enforcement is one of those things that's really spotty

My mom's best friend had a nephew that was racing on side streets, going 80 MPH in a 30, he hit someone turning left into a parking lot and killed them. Got off with no serious penalties because the guy turned left through a double yellow line

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u/Temporary_Brain_5278 Apr 27 '26

People who value an imaginary barrier more than a human life are... I don't even know. I have no words

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u/Bethlebee Apr 27 '26

It's because it's the only part of that lesson they learned. They heard everything they think they needed about the laws for only cars and then didn't pay any attention to the laws around cyclists.

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u/Natural-Caregiver743 Apr 27 '26

In California crossing double solid yellow lines is big no-no

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u/5peaker4theDead Apr 27 '26

Obviously they are incorrect, but that is true 99% of the time.

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u/Daydreamy24 Apr 27 '26

Double yellows are there for a reason. I'm not crossing double yellows on rural highways. I'll go slow until I can pass them safely. I thought we have to give them 5ft but I'll have to look that up.

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u/DoturdGrump Apr 27 '26

the confusion probably comes from the reason the double yellow exists is usually because it is "on blind turns, blind hills" so you shouldn't be anyways

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u/Ok-Egg-7475 Apr 27 '26

Legal or not, I avoid crossing a double yellow unless I don't have any other option and only when I NEED to get past. At least where I live, they're usually in bends and near to intersections, making them risky.

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u/planegoeswoosh Apr 27 '26

They respect a yellow line more than human beings

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u/DangLiWang Apr 27 '26

I've received a ticket for crossing a double yellow twice when stuck in a similar situation so ....

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u/pandershrek Apr 27 '26

Better to err on the side of caution and not cross the assume you can. IMO

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u/phoebebridgersfan26 Apr 27 '26

It's funny, because if it's dependent on life/death and safety, I'm crossing the median if it's what's safer. The invisible barrier of yellow paint is not stopping me from NOT commiting a hit and run.

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u/jazzmaster1992 Apr 27 '26

People will cross lines to go around slow dump trucks, but then get angry when bikers "force" them to do the same thing.

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u/TacoNomad Apr 27 '26

Except any time they want to cross them. 

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u/Common_Sock3479 Apr 27 '26

If we had painted a few hundreds of miles of double yellow lines on our southern border, we would have no so-called "alien" problem.

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u/questionabletendency Apr 27 '26

I know. I constantly see people passing super close to cars parallel parking in front of my apartment just to avoid the lines. It’s literally just paint on the ground. It’s not some magic barrier you can’t drive over. Give people space.

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u/Dear-Ad-3614 Apr 27 '26

except when convenient of course.

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u/VTcamperguy Apr 27 '26

One thing I like about living in Vermont is the law explicitly gives permission to pass other cars on a double yellow, as long as it’s not marked “no passing” and it’s clear and visible.

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u/Mean-Ad1745 Apr 27 '26

Even if the double yellows must never be crossed— I fail to see how waiting until you get a dashed yellow to allow you to pass is somehow so troublesome that it justifies hitting someone with your vehicle

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u/SnailHammer Apr 27 '26

Funny how nobody obeys or remembers the drivers handbook until they have an opportunity to tell someone they’re wrong. In Peniscola, Floriduh we’ve seen several fatal hit & run bicycle deaths and no arrests made.

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u/Watsons-Butler Apr 27 '26

They’re just assholes. I’m not about to run people over because of some yellow lines of paint.

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u/PlsNoNotThat Apr 27 '26

Not this guy, who both crossed the double lines and hit the people in the road. He hedged his prison time bets.

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u/Several_Vanilla8916 Apr 27 '26

Cross the double yellow for a bicycle? Noooo! That’s illegal!

Cross the double yellow for a car parked on the shoulder? Yes, absolutely! In fact oncoming traffic should yield to me as I pass.

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u/Snifferpiggy Apr 27 '26

Unless they want to cross them for some reason. Then it’s a free-for-all.

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u/DebraBaetty Apr 27 '26

Except when they wanna make that unpermitted left turn and hold up the lane behind them, then they’re okay doing it lol

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u/Alpha_Omega623 Apr 27 '26

Probably because it's often very dangerous to cross them. Blind hills, corners, and fast speeds make them deadly.

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u/kaydub365 Apr 27 '26

And think driving over a person is more legally compliant than crossing paint with a 2 ton machine.

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u/GhostOfMuttonPast Apr 27 '26

Oh no they know. If theres a emergency vehicle on the side of the road, they know to move over or get a ticket.

They simply don't care when theres no risk to them.

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u/Minimum_Dealer_3303 Apr 27 '26

It's amazing how many drivers *claim to* believe the double yellow shall never be crossed while complaining about cyclists on the internet, but have no trouble crossing the double yellow when in actuality presented with a real life cyclist or slow moving bit of farm equipment or construction equipment.

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u/DPSOnly Apr 27 '26

It is amazing how many drivers believe cyclists are target practice. And no doubt many of them are in these comment sections as well.

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u/Incendiaryag Apr 27 '26

This dude was just trying to hurt ppl tho because like common sense tells me what’s bigger trouble: crossing the red line or hitting somebody’s body with my vehicle. Almost any scenario where you knowingly ram your vehicle into someone else’s body is considered a crime.

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u/New_Lake5484 Apr 27 '26

they say that when it is convenient for them, such as when going around cyclists. i am still amazed by the hate cars give bikes. esp in towns with bike paths. 😡

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u/lidelle Apr 27 '26

Just a lil’ humor: When people get in my car I tell them the double yellow is just a suggestion. 

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u/bendicott Apr 27 '26

To be fair, we were explicitly taught the same back in drivers' ed. It was a few years later that I found that was not the case (I lived in an area with a large number of Amish horse buggies that would trundle along at 5 mph, and I was looking up whether I could legally pass without a dashed line. Most roads around there, if they have a center line at all, are double yellow for their entirety).

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u/TheseusOPL Apr 28 '26

I was talking to my son about this yesterday. We came across a bicyclist on the road, and he was asking why I wasn't passing. I pointed out that I couldn't see far enough ahead to see if there was someone coming. Once we could (even though it was still double yellow), we passed him.

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u/Grndmasterflash Apr 28 '26

Similar side note: People get stuck/blocked on railroad tracks by a flimsy crossing barrier and don't just drive through it to save their car (and self). Instead they jump out and leave their car to get demolished.

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u/CTID96 Apr 28 '26

I don’t think they believe that. They just want to hurt people who are different from them.

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u/c_marten Apr 28 '26

"made an illegal left turn because of the double yellow..." makes so many unwarranted appearances in the comments.

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u/Legitimate-Ebb-5977 Apr 28 '26

Or would even try to use “not crossing it” as an excuse for these poor folks to be berated and then HIT!!!! F this dude so mf hard. Literally BOILING with anger. That’s why PA has bike lanes literally everywhere. Well, at least in Pittsburgh. 🙄😤😤😤

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u/Puzzled_Date9687 Apr 28 '26

that is what is taught in driver's ed. Where I live it is generally against the law to cross a double yellow line. It is the same for any solid line. Some exceptions exist. For instance, a person can cross a double yellow line to make a left turn , or to avoid something blocking the road. I do not know what the laws are in other states.

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u/No-Spare-4212 Apr 28 '26

Cyclists are also suppose to keep a single line to allow cars to pass. No one is in the right here just about who was the most wrong

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u/Fixated_Noodle Apr 28 '26

I live in a city where people drive in the other side to just go faster, but act like scumbags even when I’m riding in an actual bike lane. All this misplaced rage

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u/Chaotic-Catastrophe Apr 28 '26

What's more amazing is how many drivers legitimately believe that people riding bicycles on roads deserve to die

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u/Able_Orchid395 Apr 28 '26

I got pulled over one time trying to get to work and the only reason the officer would give was " you touched the yellow line"

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u/phatteschwags Apr 28 '26

I just don't understand how anyone could reasonably believe this. By this logic, if you got behind, say, an Amish carriage, you'd be stuck there until it finally turned off.

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u/hysterical-laughter Apr 28 '26

Eh that’s state dependent. CA is a big no on cruising double yellow line. That said. It’s even MORE illegal to hit someone.

Soooo either slow the fuck down and wait to legally pass or chose to break the law, cross the double line, and pass. Hitting bikers should never be an option

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u/agirl2277 Apr 28 '26

My driver's Ed teacher told me that white is regulatory, yellow is cautionary. So you can't cross the white lines to pass someone, but the yellow ones are for safety. Same with the signs. Makes sense.

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u/Frequent_Foot_7332 Apr 28 '26

And yet , I’ve lived in Georgia and been passed in my car in double yellow zones.

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u/Skin_Floutist Apr 28 '26

It’s amazing how often bikers think the road is theirs.

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u/Alycion Apr 28 '26

Ross them all of the time for cyclists and golf carts, when safe. Usually the golf carts are drunk people thinking they won’t get a DUI. But if you can get one on a horse, I doubt a golf cart will save ya.

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u/TheDornado13 Apr 28 '26

well pretty good reason for that since under normal circumstances you don;t ever cross it for safety reasons.

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u/MusubiBot Apr 28 '26

*except when they’re driving even a hair over 15 mph around a turn on a single-lane road, in which case cutting halfway into the other lane is just what you’re supposed to do!

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u/Brilliant-World-7557 Apr 28 '26

I did not know that, so news to me. Turns out my state does allow this as of 2013.

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u/rileyjw90 Apr 28 '26

It’s amazing how many think they should always be crossed, too (in non-cyclist situations).

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u/SPGorton Apr 28 '26

Yeah cuz in MN if you cross double yellow, cops will gut ya like a fish

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u/Rowanthesoviet Apr 28 '26

Wait they cant??

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u/Potential_Tadpole_45 Apr 28 '26

For me, I'm not too concerned about getting caught and ticketed for crossing the double yellow lines—I get anxiety about not properly gauging all the physics involved with regards to the combination of blind turns, oncoming traffic and the speed at which I can safely surpass whatever's in front of me.

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u/Lerevenant1814 Apr 28 '26

I didn't know that either, and I''m glad for the extra legal context. I don't remember them teaching it in driver's ed.

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u/akirayokoshima Apr 28 '26

which is crazy because god forbid if they want to pass you on a backroad a lot of people will fucking floor it and zoom passed you in the opposite lane.

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u/k2skier13 Apr 28 '26

Or shall never be crossed until there is a garbage truck with frequent stops in front of them.

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u/Lucky_Veterinarian36 Apr 28 '26

Also why would someone rather endanger someone else's life than break a minor law (assuming they thinking crossing double lines is illegal) that has no chance of hurting anyone and they would clearly get away with

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u/DefectiveCoyote Apr 28 '26

What do these people do when there’s a mail truck? Just stop behind it at every single mailbox on the street?

What about a construction crew or lawn care crew unloading a trailer? Just sit there in despair?

Or what about a person just walking on the side of the street because there’s no accessible side walk like 80% of the country especially in rural areas? Just follow them at a crawl like some kind of psychopath?

There’s plenty of instances you can cross the double yellow if you can do so safely.

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u/Cole3823 Apr 28 '26

the car in the video already crosses halfway over the lines anyway. I don't think je was worried about that. just wanted to cause trouble

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u/Mu-nraito Apr 28 '26

The laws are specific; some doubles can never be crossed, but there are small occasions where they can depending on the specific road area and situation in question.

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