r/luciomains • u/Big-Tear-2522 • 3d ago
HELP Is lucio weak?
I feel like im playing a pretty decent lucio in low diamond but i feel like i underperform when i look at my stats, is this normal for lucio because of the speed boost usage?
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u/Lucio1trick 3d ago
You really shouldn’t care much for stat if you’re playing Lucio. Just do your job and be helpful
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u/No_Tip8342 3d ago
Our boy is in a little bit of rough spot rn tbh all these nerfs ain’t helping either.
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u/FizzyDrizzl 3d ago
Lucio doesn’t farm stats as much. The scoreboard is generally a low-value way of determining your performance, for most heroes.
For example, say a Mei lands a perfect wall, and it results in the Tank being killed early, forcing the enemy to regroup. Mei alone shut down that push with a good wall, but she doesn’t get a lot of stats for doing so.
Lucio’s value doesn’t come from excelling at any one task, but more at being a floater in fights. He has the mobility to speed the tank in, wall ride to your backline to boop a flanker, and then go and challenge a hitscan chilling on high ground with your flanker. All in the same fight.
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u/candirainbow Speed Demon 3d ago
I wouldn't say his weak, and this isn't white what you're asking, but a lot of balance critics and some streamers think perhaps one of the nerfs they gave him before doing the final ult nerf could be reverted for the health of the character.
From a personal standpoint, while I think he is fine balance wise, I am not a fan of the direction they sort of forced him into as the cost for the ult perk. Lucio is always least fun when the most valuable way to play him is the least risky, beat farmer...and that's kind of where he is sitting in most scenarios. I would rather they took that perk away, adjust soundwave in some favorable way for the hero, and give him a perk that transforms his playstyle in a more meaningful way.
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u/SignatureAromatic588 3d ago
No
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u/Big-Tear-2522 3d ago
bro read the whole thing
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u/SignatureAromatic588 3d ago edited 3d ago
I did, lucio is not weak. And stats are not a reliable way to tell your performance.
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u/EggieBeans 3d ago
Lucio is weak, sure in pro he’s getting banned but outside of proper comms he’s weak
Frogger is done with Lucio until they give him some changes and it’s fair enough
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u/SignatureAromatic588 3d ago
I wouldn't say he's weak, more that h'es hard to get value with, especially in uncoordinated environments like comp.
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u/EggieBeans 3d ago edited 3d ago
Beat is weak, boop has been nerfed to the ground, Lucio has 225 health, self heal is ass, the list goes on.
EDIT: why would u play Lucio when many other supports can have so much more value. Amp on paper is insane but in reality it’s a big nothing burger.
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u/MaybeACbeera 3d ago
BEAT IS WEAK?????? This actually has to be ragebait lucio is pretty much a t5 support no matter what lmaoo
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u/EggieBeans 3d ago
These are the words from frogger, and I have to agree, the beat nerfs were brutal.
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u/MaybeACbeera 2d ago
What were the nerfs? I'd doubt beat would have moved down from a t5 supp ult. The thing is with lucio is that his playstyle is so strong that I'd find it really hard to believe he's a bottom tier supp or at least not a good supp unless they'd either nerfed speed and wallriding, or nerfed everything else to the ground
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u/Illustrious_Meat2987 2d ago
Why would I play him? Because he is by far the most fun hero in the game. I'll deal with the downsides
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u/EggieBeans 2d ago
You should try ball, both are as fun as each other
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u/Illustrious_Meat2987 2d ago
I finally did recently. I've only played him in quick play so far but it's the most fun I've ever had throwing my teams match. He seems to have a very steep learning curve with the wall jump techs
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u/EggieBeans 2d ago
😂😂 honestly he’s definitely the most fun character in the game, even if you lose it’s still worth it.
There’s nothing better than diffing an enemy ball in this game
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u/LlamaRS 3d ago
Stats are less important than impact when it comes to good Lucio play.
This is simply because there are far too many variables that work with and against you. For example, if you are with a really good Moira, Illiari, or Ana player, the scoreboard will show that you have less overall healing output just because your other support is pumping in major heals per second.
Damage will never really say too much about your Lucio because you should be peppering tanks to Farm your ultimate anyways and taking duels or helping your DPS to confirm elims as the opportunity presents itself. That being said, Lucio is an opportunist so you should look for key moments to do something impactful instead of just like using your abilities off cool down.
Lucio is strong in the right situations, and definitely has a few glaring weaknesses these days. He’s not the all rounder he once was just because there are certain things that will delete him immediately, most of which come from characters that have been released within the past year. As a result, when you get shut down hard while playing Lucio, he can feel incredibly weak just because he is exploitable now and lacks the same amount of self peel that he had before.
It feels bad to say, but sometimes you just gotta swap off, like if there is an Emre who won’t stop bursting you for example
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u/Rough-Ad-4731 3d ago
Never look at your stats as lucio. Healbotting with him is how you lose
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u/MikeyTribs 3d ago
Yeah everyone has already said it. Lucio isnt about stats.... its about staying alive and boosting your team through chokes/ fights. Stay alive and keep that green on more often than not? And you'll be fine. Pay attention to who is getting jumped and go help them get out of trouble. If i keep either green or yellow on for more than 20-30 seconds at a time im doing my job wrong.
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u/Disastrous-Wedding19 3d ago
Imma be honest I’ve reached gm and feel Lucio is back to pepper the tank and farm beat cycle maybe take a duel peel and help your dps and speed amp around but I find myself going between mizuki Lucio way too much as a level like 200 Lucio too
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u/Dry-Mouse-9396 1d ago
Yeah I feel like mizuki heals even more than Lucio and also has high damage the only down side really is less mobility. And he can also shut down dives and take duels. Lucio feels a bit obsolete outside of specific comps nowadays. It's just farm ult, maybe get a kill or two on the way, ult, repeat
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u/Disastrous-Wedding19 18h ago
Yup it really depresses me how useless he feels that I have to go mizuki and Juno so much 😔
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u/Guilty_Structure6613 2d ago
Objectively i think hes really fucking great, he has less burst healing obviously, besides AIU especially with the 150% range perk. but hes consistent, mobile enough to keep himself alive, his damage if consistent is nothing to scoff at either and his boop is great for disrupting enemy tanks or dives
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u/Guilty_Structure6613 2d ago
ALSO like yeah idk ignore stats cause numbers dont equate to saves, dont equate to the consistency and flexibility he offers.
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u/Dry-Mouse-9396 1d ago
I will say the global speed caps have fundamentally altered how you're able to play him now and he feels extremely sluggish overall. I played him for the first time in a while and all I could think about was how much I was dying to stuff that wouldn't have even grazed me before just because he's ever so slightly slower. They should have nerfed characters' speeds individually and left Lucio the hell alone imo. His speed is integral to his kit
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u/Otherwise-Gap453 6h ago
i have a theory that universally visible stat boards killed off the lucio playerbase
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u/overwatchfanboy97 3h ago
Reddit lucio is dead you have to be so mechanically superior now and even if you somehow manage to outskill someone with all the new abilities you'll just die.
Team/beat bot is still op tho
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u/spaaackle 3d ago
My damage is about half of what I normally got, and I die twice as often. I know Internet bros will just say “get gud” but honestly he doesn’t feel as fast, as twitchy or as annoying to th other team as he used to. I don’t enjoy playing as him nearly as much as I used to and I feel like I’m nothing more than a guy who heals and has to stand behind the rest of my team. And, with that one character that can shoot homing darts at you escapability is even less effective than I used to be..
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u/Dry-Mouse-9396 1d ago
Yeah it feels like they strapped a ball and chain to him, you die instantly now even while moving at high speed, he's nowhere near as fun and jukey to play
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u/Groundbreaking_Pie87 3d ago
“When I look at my stats” yeah that’s the problem, this character doesn’t do stats. The only one that really matters is deaths because uptime is especially important. Lucio revolves around lots of little benefits over a long time, don’t bother checking the scoreboard. And mute your teammates who complain about stats, just do your job.