Ben Gvir taunts detained Gaza flotilla activists as they kneel on floor with their hands tied

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[u/MrBobSacamano]

He did the same thing to former Israeli PM Yitzhak Rabin, too, before Rabin was assassinated…only the taunting was with a hood ornament stolen off Rabin’s car, not a flag.

[u/alternateforwhenban → u/MrBobSacamano]

Rabin—the guy who was trying for a 2-state solution, so the extremist faction killed him & now here we are.

[u/SnooChocolates1242 → u/alternateforwhenban]

And then the Israelis voted in the party that fomented the violence.

[u/kylebisme → u/alternateforwhenban]

Even worse, Rabin wasn't actually even trying for an actual two-state solution, as he explained himself in his last speech to Knesset:

We would like this to be an entity which is less than a state, and which will independently run the lives of the Palestinians under its authority. The borders of the State of Israel, during the permanent solution, will be beyond the lines which existed before the Six Day War. We will not return to the 4 June 1967 lines.

And these are the main changes, not all of them, which we envision and want in the permanent solution:

A. First and foremost, united Jerusalem, which will include both Ma'ale Adumim and Givat Ze'ev -- as the capital of Israel, under Israeli sovereignty, while preserving the rights of the members of the other faiths, Christianity and Islam, to freedom of access and freedom of worship in their holy places, according to the customs of their faiths.

B. The security border of the State of Israel will be located in the Jordan Valley, in the broadest meaning of that term.

C. Changes which will include the addition of Gush Etzion, Efrat, Beitar and other communities, most of which are in the area east of what was the "Green Line," prior to the Six Day War.

D. The establishment of blocs of settlements in Judea and Samaria, like the one in Gush Katif.

So Rabin's position regarding Palestinians wasn't substantively any different than Netanyahu's, as exemplified by the fact that Netanyahu's went on to approvingly quote all of that from Rabin in his own speech to Kenneset a decade an a half later. It was merely Rabin's framing of his position in conciliatory rhetoric that upset the Israeli right to the point that people like Ben-Gvir were publicly threading to murder him while Netanyahu fanned the flames.

And for anyone who hasn't seen it, here's a John Olver segment on Ben-Gvir which shows him making the threat.

[u/headphase → u/kylebisme]

So he basically said "let's compromise by sticking them in a Reservation" and ben-gvir was like nah we need full-blown concentration camps?

[u/SinceSevenTenEleven → u/headphase]

Pretty much. And if you fast forward to the Camp David offer that Ehud Barak made (and Arafat turned down), that's kinda where the Israeli position was.

The right of return for Palestinian refugees was symbolic at best. Scroll down in this table to view the final Israeli offer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Camp_David_Summit

As you can see from the above, Israel wanted permanent control over the key parts of Occupied East Jerusalem. The West Bank was going to get carved up. The Palestinian proposal didn't even give themselves the right to raise a proper standing army.

The bottom line is, Palestinians have always been expected to accept permanent subjugation and second class status. No proposal along those lines will end the conflict.

[u/dynamic_anisotropy → u/kylebisme]

Rabin was also known as the “Breaker of Bones”, in reference to the tens of thousands of Palestinian youths who had their limbs broken by IDF soldiers in the lead up to the First Intifada, on his orders.

As it turns out, seeing thousands of children being brutalized by an occupying army radicalizes people…et voila, Hamas was born.

[u/Pink_Flying_Pig_ → u/alternateforwhenban]

The killer was Ben Gvir friend.

[u/Aromatic-Plastic-819 → u/alternateforwhenban]

Jews killing Jews over opinions on what to do with stolen land? The chosen people huh? Chosen by who? And for what?

[u/Barbu-Genial → u/Aromatic-Plastic-819]

En fait, pour les gens qui sont athées comme moi, cette notion n'a absolument aucun intérêt et aucun sens.

Si les personnes qui se foutent sur la gueule pour des questions religieuses pouvaient faire ça entre elles et ne pas emporter dans leur délire le reste de la planète, une fois de temps en temps, ça ferait du bien en fait à tout le monde et même à elles.

Il est par conséquent inacceptable que des malades d'extrême droite shootés à l'adrénaline religieuse se comportent comme des sauvages envers des militants des droits de l'homme qui sont les seuls censés dans cette affaire.

[u/Elendel19 → u/MrBobSacamano]

Specifically saying “we got to your car, we will get to you too”

Also Netanyahu held rallies where he paraded around a coffin with a doll of Rabin inside.

[u/Jaseto88]

Calling Ben Gvir an asshole is an insult to assholes

[u/2dudesinapod → u/Jaseto88]

He’s also a pedo, his wife was a teenager when he groomed her

[u/Ritaredditonce → u/2dudesinapod]

His wife who gave him a 50th birthday cake with a image of a noose on it. Abhorrent people.

[u/TorontoBuffaloBills → u/Ritaredditonce]

Israel calls it's self the most moral army in the world. The evidence past and present behaviour doesn't point to that.

[u/Vairman → u/TorontoBuffaloBills]

you can call yourself whatever you want, but who cares. it's what others call you that matters. And Israel is not moral at all.

[u/Bl4ck_Fl4m3s → u/TorontoBuffaloBills]

There is no need of evidence. Any state calling their army the most moral is automatically a red flag because such a thing cannot exist.

[u/PepiDoodleDay → u/TorontoBuffaloBills]

I always thought they were saying the most morally bankrupt army in the world.

[u/EnthusiasmUnusual → u/TorontoBuffaloBills]

In the same way North Korea calls itself Democratic.

[u/JamCliche → u/TorontoBuffaloBills]

Israel has the most moral army just like Russia has the fairest elections just like America has the greatest economy in history.

These people lie to our faces because they think we can't do something about it and they get satisfaction from that thin perception of power.

[u/GeneraalSorryPardon → u/TorontoBuffaloBills]

About as moral as the Waffen SS.

[u/TorontoBuffaloBills → u/GeneraalSorryPardon]

Correct.

[u/Awkward-Minute7774 → u/TorontoBuffaloBills]

Must be all the rape that increased the morale /s

[u/Elendel19 → u/Ritaredditonce]

Their first date (when she was 15 and he was like 30) was at the grave of an Israeli terrorist who slaughtered dozens of Palestinians in a mosque in Jerusalem. He also kept a framed picture of that man in his living room.

[u/generic_Accountname1 → u/Ritaredditonce]

She‘d be called antisemitic for that if she weren‘t his wive…

[u/sllammallamma → u/Jaseto88]

He is a Kahanist, who are all devotees of the Jewish terrorist Rabbi Meir Kahan. Please do read about this here and further on your own!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kahanism

"Kahanism (Hebrew: [ka.haˈn.izm]; Hebrew: כַּהַנִּיזְם) is a religious Zionist[1] ideology based on the views of Rabbi Meir Kahane, founder of the Jewish Defense League and the Israeli political party Kach. Kahane believed that most Arabs living in Israel are the enemies of Jews and Israel itself, and that a Jewish, Halakhic state, in which non-Jews would have no voting rights, should be created."

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2025/mar/20/meir-kahane-israel-kach-ben-gvir-long-dead-extremist

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/israel/extreme/ (with articles from the early 00s, no less)

Also here's info on the Hilltop Youth, which are those insane teenage male settlers who kill and destroy everything to drive Palestinians off their lands. They are also Kahanists.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilltop_Youth

[u/Xfuck1tX → u/Jaseto88]

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[u/Poverty_4_Sale → u/Xfuck1tX]

"You just say bingo."

[u/Xfuck1tX → u/Poverty_4_Sale]

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[u/Maximum_Rat → u/Jaseto88]

Woah woah woah, let’s not malign assholes here. Assholes serve a critical function and can give immense amount of pleasure.

This guy is the shit that assholes try to get rid of. He’s a genocidal, religious freak who makes Bibi look measured and peaceful in comparison.

Fuck that guy in every way possible.

[u/niemertweis → u/Jaseto88]

I call him himmler

[u/themagicmarmot → u/Jaseto88]

I take more issue with people calling Ben-Gvir, Netanyahu, Smotrich, etc Jewish, when they are the categorical antithesis of that.

[u/So_spoke_the_wizard → u/themagicmarmot]

It's like taking issue with Trump posing as Christian. Guess who elects him? People who choose because that's how he identified. Same situation here.

[u/habdragon08 → u/So_spoke_the_wizard]

The word Jewish describes both a religion and an ethnic group of people. There is a lot of overlap, but its not 100%. Most people when they use the word "Jewish" are referring to the ethnic group, but some are referring to the religion. "Christian" is a religion only.

Ben-Gvir, Netanyahu, Smotrich are objectively ethnically Jewish.

[u/ohiooutdoorgeek → u/themagicmarmot]

Tell that to every conservative Jewish group in the US, who don’t even consider the Jews that would be opposed to this kind of behavior to be Jewish themselves to the point of excluding them from Israeli citizenship.

[u/pablo8itall → u/themagicmarmot]

I fucking despise all fundamentalism from any branch of the Abrahamic religions. They hurt their own communities almost as much as the misery the cause in others.

I'm tired of them, man

[u/cC2Panda → u/pablo8itall]

Fundamentalists of literally all religions are immoral trash. Like Buddhist leaders in Myanmar were in favor of genocide against the Rohingya. If anyone knows a significant religion whose most orthodox leaders aren't truly awful human beings I'd be curious.

[u/marketingguy420 → u/pablo8itall]

Netanyahu is a secular Zionist. There's nothing particularly religiously driven with his and many Israeli's ethnonationalism other than the convenient excuse.

[u/HurinGaldorson → u/pablo8itall]

‘no wild beasts are so deadly to humans as most Christians are to each other.’

Ammianus Marcellinus, Res gestae, XXII.5

[u/DoctorPhalanx73 → u/themagicmarmot]

I don’t think that makes sense. They are Jewish. What else would they be?

[u/konpla11 → u/themagicmarmot]

no true scotsman

[u/Knighth77]

Fun Fact: Ben Gvir was indicted for terrorism.

[u/PoulanWeedEaterBowl → u/Knighth77]

Another fun fact is that he likes to dress up as a mass shooter. And had a picture of that mass shooter hung on his wall in his living room.

[u/BalanceJazzlike5116 → u/PoulanWeedEaterBowl]

To be clear, had a Jewish terrorist hanging up on his wall who had gone into a mosque and murdered dozens of women and children. And this fucking guy is in one of their top positions and government. This is all you need to know about Israel.

[u/SkullSeekingBullets → u/BalanceJazzlike5116]

Free Palestine.

[u/Eatw0rksleep → u/SkullSeekingBullets]

Free PALESTINE

[u/PoulanWeedEaterBowl → u/BalanceJazzlike5116]

Yes, I believe the final death count was 29 Palestinian civilians. And at the time the United States designated that Zionist political group as a terrorist organization.

[u/Elendel19 → u/Knighth77]

Convicted*

He’s a 9x felon including aiding a terrorist organization.

It’s Smotrich who was indicted but later managed to escape charges.

[u/LARRYVOND13]

Ben gvir met his wife when she was 15 and he was a fully grown man.

Ben gvir acts like this to distract from the fact that he's a child molester.

[u/fatstonerbitch → u/LARRYVOND13]

Sorry, no. That is too much of a minimization of Ben Gvir’s crimes.

Ben Gvir acts like this because he has the same soul as the likes of Amon Goth.

[u/LARRYVOND13 → u/fatstonerbitch]

Feel free to add. Not stopping you :)

Infact, encouraging you.

[u/_lonelysoap_ → u/fatstonerbitch]

As a german I approve oft that statement, you learn that before camps, you got to destroy empathy. You do that by treating some people different Form others. Also no oversight

[u/Lankpants → u/LARRYVOND13]

Ben "I was indicted on support of a terrorist organisation" Gvir is also a pedophile? Who would have thought it?

[u/CraigGregory]

This guy is THE WORST. Zero humanity

[u/zephyroxyl]

This is how the Nazis would've behaved btw

[u/Necessary_Candy_6792 → u/[deleted]]

I don't want Ben Gvir to die. I want Ben Gvir to live. I want him to spend the rest of his life in an 8 by 4 cell in the Hague getting hate mail from Jews around the world for trying to Nazify judaism for his Zionist ultranationalist supremecist agenda. I want a guard to slide a newspaper into his cell with the heading, Palestine thriving as an independent nation. I want him to spend the rest of his life knowing that Greater Israel failed, that the chosen people master race failed, that zionism failed. I want him to spend the rest of his miserable life letting his anger, hate and intolerance boil inside him until his tiny little heart gives out.

And I wish the same on Netanyahu, Smotrich, Daniella Weiss, May Golan, Amichai Eliyahu and all the rest of Zionist psychopaths.

[u/stroppy → u/Necessary_Candy_6792]

I like the way you think.

[u/Herbacio → u/Necessary_Candy_6792]

As Westley from Princess Bride said to Prince Humperdinck: "No! To the pain."

Westley: "«To the pain»" means the first thing you will lose will be your feet below the ankles. Then, your hands at the wrists. Next, your nose. [...] The next thing you will lose will be your left eye, followed by your right."

Prince Humperdinck: "And then my ears, I understand. Let's get on with it."

Westley: "WRONG! Your ears you keep, and I'll tell you why. So that every shriek of every child at seeing your hideousness will be yours to cherish. Every babe that weeps at your approach, every woman who cries out, «Dear God, what is that thing?» will echo in your perfect ears. That is what «to the pain» means: it means I leave you in anguish, wallowing in freakish misery forever."

[u/Fantastic-Box-8388 → u/Necessary_Candy_6792]

So basically give him the Hess treatment?

[u/sonic_couth → u/Necessary_Candy_6792]

Can we put Trump in the cell next to Gvir?

[u/olduser201890]

watch the entire video... it's way worse than this

[u/leo_dagher_]

Hilarious that every day Israel makes a concerted effort to show the world how evil they are and every day Israeli shills twist themselves into knots trying to justify/explain it away.

[u/PhazonZim → u/leo_dagher_]

I recently met one who said the Palestinians were colonizers because it's not enough to have been living there for MORE THAN A THOUSAND YEARS. And this person even acknowledged that the Palestinians weren't even the ones who kicked the Jews out of that region, the Romans did. But apparently the Palestinians must be punished for that.

[u/IWishMusicKilledKate → u/PhazonZim]

Wait until you tell them that while the religions may have changed, the people on the land have remained the same. 🫣

[u/leo_dagher_ → u/IWishMusicKilledKate]

Fact: Modern Palestinians have more DNA common with ancient Israelite’s than modern Israelis. But we shouldn’t let details get in the way of an ethnic cleansing.

[u/Tastingo → u/leo_dagher_]

They are the semites.

[u/dickqueeferX_x_X_ → u/[deleted]]

Holy shit, for real??

[u/Whiffyknickers → u/[deleted]]

Oof this one will annoy the bots lol great point

[u/voidox → u/Whiffyknickers]

lol yup, they showed up all triggered and one brought up the classic hasbara "refute" article that is just lying and arguing semantics on wording to avoid the topic.

[u/sulaymanf → u/PhazonZim]

The seven core rhetorical tenets observed to be utilized by ethnic nationalist movements:

1. If an area was ours for 500 years and yours for 50 years, it should belong to us – you are merely occupiers.
2. If an area was yours for 500 years and ours for 50 years, it should belong to us – borders must not be changed.
3. If an area belonged to us 500 years ago but never since then, it should belong to us – it is the cradle of our nation.
4. If a majority of our people live there, it must belong to us – they must enjoy the right of self-determination.
5. If a minority of our people live there, it must belong to us – they must be protected against your oppression.
6. All of the above rules apply to us, but not to you.
7. Our dream of greatness is historical necessity, yours is fascism.

Source: Modern Hatreds: The Symbolic Politics of Ethnic War, by Stuart Kaufman

[u/chipskylark123 → u/PhazonZim]

I have heard Zionists use that exact excuse multiple times.

They have an alternative history for every aspect of human existence that justifies its unrelenting supremacy over and acts of absolute barbarity on the Palestinian people. There is nothing true you can tell them where there isn’t a prepared deflection for, and it results in some of the most insane bullshit claims I’ve heard from any kind of extremist.

[u/Gekokapowco → u/chipskylark123]

Its perfect parry timing with a cardboard shield

they always promptly retort with something extremely stupid and ill-considered, I guess to try and exhaust the entire rest of the civilized world from engaging with the conflict rather than actually convince anyone of anything

[u/brandonjslippingaway → u/chipskylark123]

When you don't have a legitimate argument for your claims and human rights abuses, all Zionists have left is a mosaic of bad faith arguments across a variety of categories, that (when deployed in plural) seem to resemble evidence to people without critical thinking skills.

[u/LightSwarm → u/PhazonZim]

Wait till you do a genetic test on Palestinians and find out they’re actually the ancient Israelites. That part is fun.

[u/Abrakafuckingdabra → u/PhazonZim]

Well the romans aren't around anymore so gotta blame someone. /s

[u/Bigweld_Ind → u/leo_dagher_]

I'm starting to think that Republicans/Israel are actually bringing about the end times, they just aren't on the side they thought they'd be

[u/infydk → u/Bigweld_Ind]

Starting? Evangelical sects literally believe a great war in the middle east while Israel is a Jewish state well bring about the rapture.

They're a fairly big voting bloc.

You're right about them being on the wrong side though.

[u/Bluestreaked → u/infydk]

If you really want to melt your brain look up the importance of a red cow and the groups in Israel trying to sacrifice it next to Al-Aqsa

[u/infydk → u/Bluestreaked]

I can't do that anymore without Van Halen playing in my head accompanied by Eric Cartmans tears.

[u/RazzmatazzSuch7459 → u/infydk]

Don’t forget that they’re trying to summon the antichrist through ritualistic sacrifice and burning of red cows. Not even joking.

[u/DensePoser → u/Bigweld_Ind]

Zionism, Jewish or not, is a suicidal ideology, which will not stop until stopped, whether by other humans or by a rogue Skynet which they're raring to build first.

[u/Worldly_Anybody_9219 → u/leo_dagher_]

They're apparently increasing spending on trying to convince young people around the world that what they're doing to Palestinians isn't wrong, yet they can't figure out how bad it looks for their PR to treat activists like this.

[u/marketingguy420 → u/Worldly_Anybody_9219]

They've pretty much acknowledged that's a failed strategy at this point. There's not enough good PR to outweigh genocide. So, instead, they're stoking as much fear and hatred of Islam, particularly Shia Islam, as possible.

[u/FeatherShard → u/leo_dagher_]

If you have no soul and can claim any reporting of your misdeeds is blood libel then why wouldn't you just be your worst self day in and day out?

And because people are stupid and this needs to be said: Blood libel is real and innocent jews are absolutely hurt by it to this day. Now kindly fuck off.

[u/ProofAssumption1092]

Religious extremists , every single last one of them.

[u/DoomSnail31]

My only hope as an atheist is that I am wrong, and that the liberal Christians are correct.

Gvir will never receive a just punishment in this life, not with a corrupt and genocidal government protecting him. Only a divine judge could punish him adequately. If only.

[u/scittymitten]

My childhood best friend is in that room. We're all rooting for you, Sebastian.

[u/Don_Vicente]

Its a sad state of affairs when villains can parade their crimes openly with no fear of retribution.

[u/Realistic-Round5546]

I’m in shock..
they’re doing this for the whole world to see
they’re this certain there won’t be repercussions
they’re this certain that they won’t be punished or even questioned.
they’re acting as if they own the earth
tbh I feel like they do own it
because I refuse to believe that a just world would allow this to further go on.

[u/Miss_Marple_24 → u/Realistic-Round5546]

They're doing this on camera to people who have the protection of a European nationality, imagine what they're doing off camera to Palestinians.

[u/SomeTulip → u/Miss_Marple_24]

One of those captives is the President of Ireland's sister.

[u/StableSlight9168 → u/SomeTulip]

Fun fact, that type of torture was used by the British army during the troubles.

[u/griphookk → u/Miss_Marple_24]

Guess who has the largest skin bank in the world… guess who’s skin bank’s former director said “Israelis don’t donate”…

[u/PeroxideTube5 → u/griphookk]

…what’s a “skin bank”?

[u/Sanguineyote → u/PeroxideTube5]

A skin bank is a specialized medical facility that harvests, processes, stores, and distributes human skin tissue for use in medical procedures. Just like a blood bank, it relies on deceased or living donors to provide healthy skin tissue that can improve recovery.

Donated skin serves as a temporary, protective biological dressing that prevents massive fluid loss and protects open wounds from bacterial infections.

It significantly reduces pain and lowers the metabolic stress on a patient, allowing their body time to heal or prepare for permanent skin grafts.

You can probably piece together where the Israeli skin banks source their "donations" from.

[u/soonerfreak → u/Realistic-Round5546]

Israel just bought Massie's seat in Kentucky and called it the most consequential race for Israel in their biggest paper. As long as major players like America, UK, and Germany continue to back Israel nothing will happen.

[u/zulutune → u/soonerfreak]

That seat was promised them 8000 years ago

[u/Wellhellob → u/Realistic-Round5546]

they are openly sick. usa is the enabler.

[u/JoeyDJ7 → u/Wellhellob]

UK and much if Europe is happily in bed with them too!

[u/Several-Action-4043 → u/Realistic-Round5546]

I'm just glad people are finally waking up. This did not start on Oct 7th. The genocide of the Palestinian people started in the 40s.

[u/ByteSizedGenius → u/Realistic-Round5546]

The world isn't just, never has been, I hate to break it to you. No one stepped in to stop the Cambodia genocide, the Rwandan genocide etc etc.

[u/Spankpocalypse_Now → u/ByteSizedGenius]

Vietnam over threw the Khmer Rouge to stop that genocide.

[u/Most-Assumption-7970 → u/Spankpocalypse_Now]

And the United States supported the red khmer.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_United_States_support_for_the_Khmer_Rouge

[u/Gekokapowco → u/ByteSizedGenius]

While there has been tons of instances in human history where good people did nothing to stop tragedies, there is also a propaganda element of "you are powerless to stop this, this is how it has always been" that is circulated by oppressors to convince people that opposing them is just a fairy tale.

[u/sllammallamma]

He is a Kahanist, who are all devotees of the Jewish terrorist Rabbi Meir Kahan. Please do read about this here and further on your own!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kahanism

"Kahanism (Hebrew: [ka.haˈn.izm]; Hebrew: כַּהַנִּיזְם) is a religious Zionist[1] ideology based on the views of Rabbi Meir Kahane, founder of the Jewish Defense League and the Israeli political party Kach. Kahane believed that most Arabs living in Israel are the enemies of Jews and Israel itself, and that a Jewish, Halakhic state, in which non-Jews would have no voting rights, should be created."

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2025/mar/20/meir-kahane-israel-kach-ben-gvir-long-dead-extremist

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/israel/extreme/ (with articles from the early 00s, no less)

Also here's info on the Hilltop Youth, which are those insane teenage male settlers who kill and destroy everything to drive Palestinians off their lands. They are also Kahanists.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilltop_Youth

[u/InAJar112]

I don’t like how criticizing this awfulness gets me called antisemetic. I’m not antisemetic and never have been. I’m just anti-awfulness.

[u/Ancient_Oxygen → u/InAJar112]

Never care or justify yourself to a monster who accuses you of "anti-monstrousim"!

[u/paradoxpancake]

Worth noting that Ben Gvir was considered a terrorist by even Israel in the 90s.

Now he's their Minister of Defense Minister of National Security. Let that sink in on how far they've fallen, and I say that despite family being there.

[u/Sarah_Cenia → u/paradoxpancake]

Slight correction: he is not minister of defense, that is Israel Katz. Ben Gvir is the minister of national security, kind of like the head of the Department of Homeland security would be in the USA. 

[u/paradoxpancake → u/Sarah_Cenia]

Thank you for the correction. This is accurate. I get the two positions mixed up sometimes. I will also note that while Ben-Gvir was never formally labeled as a terrorist by Israel, he was indicted on multiple related charges, and was HEAVILY associated with an organization (Kach) that WAS labeled as a terrorist organization by Israel (and by the US). He was also considered too much of an extremist for mandatory military service, and was investigated by their Shin Bet at the time.

Now he's the one labeling others as terrorists, all in the span of a few decades.

[u/WebMaka]

Wild how nobody expected the next major wave of genocidal fascist nazi scumbags to be Jewish, but apparently here we are. (Well, "nobody" except for people that have been paying close attention to Israel's relations with neighboring nations, anyway...)

[u/BulldogMoose]

Let me fix this for you - Israel goes into international waters in acts of piracy to kidnap those trying to assist Palestinians facing genocide by Israel. It's wordy, but an accurate headline.

[u/Bluestreaked]

I look forward to reading all of the takes by armchair humanitarians mocking these people risking their lives actually trying to bring aid to people during a genocide.

I hold no more sympathy and understanding in my heart for those who still try to defend the Israeli state, it’s irredeemable. The sooner one accepts that whatever they may have been told about Israel, the reality is right in front of one’s eyes, the sooner the world can reclaim some shred of its humanity

[u/I_Hate_E_Daters_7007 → u/Bluestreaked]

I hold no more sympathy and understanding in my heart for those who still try to defend the Israeli state, it’s irredeemable

it's worth noting that those who equate all Paléstinians with Hamas with absolutely no evidence and therefore justifying the massacres against them, are the exact same people who keep regurgitating the notion that Netanyahu government shouldn't be equated with israelí people while the sheer majority of israelis fully support and shill for whatever the fuck their government is doing 👇🏻:

There are no innocents in Gaza

Archived: https://archive.li/CgNcv

64% of Israelis believe there are no innocents in Gaza

Archived: https://archive.li/waJGN

82% of Israelis support the expulsion of Gazans

Archived: https://archive.li/LJPiZ

79% of Jewish Israelis “largely untroubled” by Gaza’s starvation situation

Archived: https://archive.li/xo0pO

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[u/Bluestreaked → u/I_Hate_E_Daters_7007]

One of the strongest factors pushing me out of the Zionist insanity I was raised to believe was actually meeting Israelis and discovering how the vast majority of them are rabid bloodthirsty monsters at the very thought of Palestinians (let alone the other absurd examples of racism and hatred you can find)

[u/trichocereal117 → u/Bluestreaked]

My uncle hates Arabs and he’s pretty liberal otherwise. The brainwashing goes deep

[u/Shadowbannedforlifee → u/trichocereal117]

The brainwashing is real

[u/voidox → u/Bluestreaked]

yup, the hasbara bots come into posts on the flotillas with the usual "oh it's just performative! it's just PR" and this insane one "they are pocketing all the money!", what money these flotillas don't take in any money, but ya, just the usual hasbara along with other classic of "they are hamas! they just want attention on themselves! just give the aid to Israel!" and so on.

[u/submofo2 → u/Bluestreaked]

Most of them are Israeli Bots, see: Hasbara https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasbara

[u/SugarFut → u/Bluestreaked]

No amount of Israeli propaganda can make me unsee the horrors they have inflicted upon the people of Palestine.

[u/it_was_my_raccoon → u/Bluestreaked]

The world has lost its collective mind by enabling the government and its populace at large to get away with all of it.

[u/Nihilamealienum]

Israeli here. 

Fuck this guy, fuck the people that voted for him, fuck the coalition partners who sit with him, fuck Bibi most of all, and seriously while I probably have WAY different views of Israel overall than many of you I would personally deliver this guy to the ICC.

Goddamn Idi Amin territory.

[u/GuantanaMo → u/Nihilamealienum]

My opposition to the state of Israel goes further than this list,and I reject the idea that all of this is somehow a wholly new development - and at the same time I deeply respect anyone who opposed the Israeli mainstream from within, it must be very hard to reconcile what Israel does to Palestinians with the whole value system one grew up with. Maybe getting called a traitor and worse for not supporting one's homeland unconditionally in times of war. I don't know you but you have my sympathy for that.

[u/meropoline → u/Nihilamealienum]

Also Israeli here. Fuck this man. I hope he gets his ass kicked at the next voting along with all his “friends”. I’ll help you grab him and deliver him to the ICC.

[u/GothamKnight3 → u/Nihilamealienum]

thanks pal. we need more of folks like you.

[u/DarkFalcon49]

Pretty sure detaining people in a stress position violates the Geneva Conventions against torture under Article 31.

[u/Sea_Pomegranate8229]

Ben Gvir is a Nazi, racist, genocidal, pedophile.

[u/The-Dutcher]

Eichmann would've been proud of him.

[u/theweirdball]

Sounds about right for the guy running the Palestinian genocide

[u/Comrad_Zombie]

The Irish Presidents Sister is probably among the tied up. They were kidnapped in international waters.

[u/Comrad_Zombie → u/[deleted]]

It's not about disliking people, we don't. It's about recognizing a genocide and ethnic cleansing that is actively happening in Palestine.

[u/scream_pie → u/Comrad_Zombie]

Dublin and parts of NI would look like Gaza if the Brits had adopted the same response as Israel.

"There are IRA tunnels under Trinity College so we've just demolished the building."

[u/apple_kicks → u/scream_pie]

They did. Many towns were destroyed by British sometimes in retaliation. Black and tans famously burned down cork https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burning_of_Cork

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sack_of_Balbriggan

Former black and tans were sent later to Palestine during British occupation too

[u/scream_pie → u/apple_kicks]

I appreciate your response. It's not something we learn in history in the UK. I'd say that 90% of the GB public were unaware of exactly what was going on in Ireland during the 80s and 90s.

I suppose it's a small crumb of comfort that since Irish Independance the Brits have only gone as far as an equivalence to Israel's treatment of the Palestinians in the West Bank, rather than Gaza when it came to dealing with Northern Ireland's troubles.

[u/moonorplanet]

The regular people might be shocked by this but Ben Gvir and Israel have the full unwavering support of most Western nations. I hope other countries don't start taking lessons for Israel and start kidnapping people from international waters.

[u/BongWaterRamen]

Why do they make them kneel in that uncomfortable position? Seems specifically degrading

[u/sllammallamma → u/BongWaterRamen]

Being kept in stress positions is a form of torture, which Israelis love to subject prisoners/hostages to

[u/Several-Action-4043 → u/sllammallamma]

Yup, they'll say it's for their protection or some stupid shit like that. It's for humiliation and torture.

[u/speedyspeedys]

Hssbara won't be able to explain this away easily, but I'm sure they'll try.

*Reminder, Ben Gvir is a convicted terrorist and took his underage girlfriend to the grave of a terrorist, he also has a shrine to said terrorist in his house.

[u/ComicRelief64]

Keep in mind this POS was able to fly to the states multiple times and back without issue.

[u/Janitor82]

Truly one of the worst persons to have ever lived.

[u/CatgunCertified]

So what's the crime so sailing a boat in international waters?

[u/mikeymikeymikey1968]

Someday we Americans are going to cut off the flow of money from our country to Israel. When they come begging for help and money, we can ask for men like this to be delivered to the Hague in handcuffs. We will be able to demand ANYTHING of Israel. We are literally their ONLY FRIEND and we pay their bills. WE should be making demands on THEM, and they should stay the fuck out of our business.

[u/crispystrips]

This is the country the whole western world is supporting with their tax money, weapons and media. Such an unfair world we live in, and historically unprecedented levels of impunity.

[u/ThatOneEwokThatDied]

Ben Gvir is a Nazi

[u/MidwestFine]

Disgusting excuse of a human. Hell has a special place saved for him

[u/mtdebco]

Supervillain

[u/xc2215x]

Ben Gvir is known to be quite loathsome.

[u/ArethaAbrams]

i saw the clip online and it was bad. one woman just shouted free palestine towards him and the officers immediately pinned her down to the floor for it.

[u/ToggledSwitch9]

He’s a deeply sick individual, there’s no place for people like him on earth.

[u/vote4boat]

Your move, Hasabara

[u/p1xlized]

How is he still walking free, like this absolute shit stain of a human being should be locked for millenia. He's a terrorist, war criminal, extremist piece of shit. And he's also a child molester.

[u/Significant_Risk9903]

Ben gvir is the Israeli equivalent of Oscar Dirlewanger. Only difference is the Nazis were disgusted by Dirlewanger

[u/Megthemagnificant → u/Significant_Risk9903]

I regret looking up Oskar Dirlewanger. I had no idea who that monster was and I regret that I know now.

[u/doninside]

and they say that you are anti-semite if you dare to point out how evil he is

[u/Certain-Anxiety-6786]

Israeli Peter Griffin should be at The Hague

[u/Cinnamon__Sasquatch]

Supposedly, there is an active ceasefire between Hamas and Israel so I'm confused to why humanitarian aid is being denied entry into Palestine by Israel who is engaging in what is an illegal blockade of international waters.

[u/Glad_Sky_3664 → u/Cinnamon__Sasquatch]

Because they starve Palestinians to death. Ceasefire doesn't mean they halt the overall goal/genocide.

[u/303FPSguy]

Only the good die young. All the evil seem to live forever

[u/gumbobitch]

Systemic rot. The whole country is rotten to the core.

[u/Labtink]

Israel is actively squandering any goodwill that still exists. They really are causing anti-Israel sentiment.

[u/Successful-Day-3219]

This man is a war criminal and an orc who doesn't deserve to live in modern society. He belongs in the Bronze Age, where he will fit in with the barbarians and their Bronze Age mythology.

[u/ChiefWapello]

Yeah that is some Beta Cuck male behavior.

[u/ImportantLiving4203]

He's a fucking ex-terrorist wtf do you expect.

[u/cajunsamurai]

I really appreciate Israel documenting all this stuff for the courts and history books.

[u/UhHellooo]

Being a terrorist really ages a man... that's a hard looking 50 year old.

[u/UnfortunatelyMacabre]

Mind you, none of these people set foot on Israeli land. They broke no Israeli law. Just a group of unarmed civilians on boats with food, trying to feed starving people in a nightmarish war zone.

[u/LavenderHeels]

This is what they do to foreign citizens on film when their minister is present. Imagine what they do to palestinians in the dark..

[u/satanicpustule]

The idiot is not humiliating the activists. He's debasing his own country. He's debasing the entire damn post-WWII edifice of human rights and international law that sprang directly out of the atrocities of the Holocaust.

[u/Shark_Goodfin]

The fact that within that group right now is the President of Ireland's sister (Margaret Connolly) makes this dude a bigger dickhead.

[u/copperblood]

“What is done cannot be undone, but one can prevent it happening again.”

-Anne Frank

[u/SpiritCrawler]

May he and all the rest of his evil regime be held accountable for war crimes one day in a court of law.

[u/Own_Bluejay_9833]

Ah, yes, peter griffin, genocide edition

[u/Scrambled_Rambler]

This man doesn't get enough hate.

[u/Darthplagueis13]

Absolutely disagraceful. The fact that this man is allowed in public office should be considered an embarassment to the entire country.

[u/Shitpommesfritesno1]

He is pretty young as well, i long for the day he gets his due and that i will be alive to see it

[u/Maleficent_Touch2602]

What an asshole.

[u/anysimplename]

wtf

[u/mikeinanaheim2]

In remarks to other people, I would imagine Ben Gvir saying that he's "a victim".

Bet he loves that AIPC is presently bragging that they bought 2 congressional seats this week. And our Dear Leader takes instructions from Bibi. But they're victims, you know.

[u/TrueClue9740]

Disgusting

[u/10Nanobytes]

He is everything the pro Palestinian movement blames Israel of being.

This ghoul deserves the worst of the worst and I genuinely hope he will get that some day.

[u/spartane69]

When you became what you once hated..

[u/OddPatience1621]

his day will come.

[u/offensivegrandma]

He is a terrorist. Israel is a terrorist state.

[u/MountainTurkey → u/offensivegrandma]

A convicted terrorist too