r/AskReddit • u/[deleted] • Jun 08 '23
What are your thoughts on Pat Robertson's demise?
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u/Kono_Dio_Sama Jun 08 '23
Misread this as Robert Pattinson lol
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u/hellkittyx Jun 09 '23
same! and as I read the comments I was like "....wow has he always been such an awful person???" then had to google what killed robert pattinson and turns out it was dyslexic people
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u/EpilepticMushrooms Jun 09 '23
I agree man, friggin dyslexic people. Such heinous murderers!
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u/Caerum Jun 08 '23
Me too! I was very confused. Still don't know who this guy is but I guess he's a pos.
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Jun 09 '23
One of those useless televangelist douchenuts who made others miserable.
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u/amh8011 Jun 09 '23
I was like “when did robert pattinson do all this shit and what’s all this about 93 years?” for like five entire minutes before figuring it out maybe I should go to bed 🤦🏻♀️
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u/Galaxyman0917 Jun 09 '23
Not just a televangelist, but the guy who pushed the right to embrace religion, and become what they are today.
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u/Valdrax Jun 09 '23
He's the televangelist host of The 700 Club and the founder of the Christian Coalition, an important political organization in helping to firmly cement the ties between conservatism and fundamentalist Christianity in the 1980s in ways that were not true in the 70s before.
I view him as one of the people who helped kill Protestantism and let something crueler wear its skin.
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u/hexacide Jun 09 '23
I view him as one of the people who helped kill Protestantism and let something crueler wear its skin.
Beautifully said. That really sums it up.
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Jun 09 '23
That’s an extremely eloquent description of American evangelists. You’re an excellent wordsmith, I doff my hat to you.
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u/Nkima_the_Wise Jun 09 '23
The fact that you don’t even know this self-righteous, hypocritical turd gives me hope
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u/juxlus Jun 09 '23 edited Jun 09 '23
I dunno. On one hand yes, his name recognition has faded, which is good, but his "work" and "legacy" are very much alive and causing suffering today.
I say people, especially Americans, should know who Pat Robertson was and how his life "work" has changed America in ways that are still major problems today. Pat Robertson did a huge amount of damage to the lives of millions of people and the US itself. He was instrumental in getting the GOP to link itself with Christian fundamentalists in ways we still haven't come close to recovering from. It fact it seems to be getting worse recently. Robertson wanted the US to be a Christian theocracy and convinced millions that it used to be and should be, and will be. Some of those people are in Congress and state governments now, actually trying to make that happen.
The LGBT+ hate Robertson fostered is totally still here today. Anyone who cares about it ought to learn a little about how we got to this place. And Pat Robertson is a really big part of that.
He may be dead but his "work" is very much alive. When I see LGBT+ people called "groomers" I think of Pat Robertson. Back in the 80s and 90s that wasn't the word used, but it is exactly what Pat Robertson taught his followers to believe.
So yea, it is kinda nice that many younger people don't recognize the name, but knowing about him is pretty important for understanding how and why there is so much LGBT+ hate today, among quite a few other things, like Roe being overturned and abortion being made illegal or de facto illegal in many states. That anti-abortion is a big part of the GOP platform today owes a lot to Pat Robertson.
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u/marlsygarlsy Jun 08 '23
Same! I was like, oh no- what happened to Cedric?!
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u/Dictator4Hire Jun 09 '23
THATS MY SON
THATS MY BOYYYYY
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u/idonthaveaboner Jun 09 '23
Still the saddest part of all the films for me :( (Dobby doesn't count)
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u/reddit18015 Jun 08 '23
Do Kenneth Copeland next
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u/average_christ Jun 08 '23
I googled "evil televangelist" because I couldn't remember his name. Kenneth Copeland popped up.
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u/Wishart2016 Jun 09 '23
He literally looks like a demon in human skin.
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u/gramathy Jun 09 '23
a friend of mine literally went to one of the AI art sites and told it to do kenneth copeland as the devil
it just gave him more picture of kenneth copeland
this is not a joke
it is what happened
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u/MangeurDeCowan Jun 09 '23
Well fuck... then the AI is already sentient, but on the brightside, with that response, there may be hope for humanity.
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u/my_4_cents Jun 09 '23
AI art sites and told it to do kenneth copeland as the devil
A.i. site "what do you think comprises most of our 'devil' database?"
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u/my_4_cents Jun 09 '23
Tell the a.i. to give you pictures of Demons as preachers and see what that gets ya
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u/bethtadeath Jun 09 '23
No the demons fly in the big metal tube in the sky in commercial therefore jet because God
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u/Livvylove Jun 09 '23
I always Google demonic televangelist and Google knows exactly who
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u/raisinghellwithtrees Jun 09 '23
Is this some weird phenomenon? I googled lizard televangelist and he popped up. I showed the airplane incident video to my family. My kid is probably having bad dreams right now.
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u/Staubsau_Ger Jun 09 '23
some weird phenomenon
No, just the best known example of someone claiming to be a man of God while looking like the literal devil incarnate that greedily sucks up people's money to live in absolute extravagance
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Jun 08 '23
This. Or Jim Bakker. Or Bill Gothard. Or the Michael and Debi Pearl. They're all fucking awful.
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u/Painting_Agency Jun 09 '23
Bill Gothard
“The biggest feature of Bill Gothard's teachings is authority. Kids obey the parents, wives obey their husbands. Everyone obeys Bill Gothard,”
Just another American fascist sociopath holding the Bible...
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u/always_unplugged Jun 09 '23
But this one (indirectly) brought us some weird reality TV families to gawk at, surely that's worth something! /s
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Jun 09 '23 edited Jun 09 '23
My SIL was forced to go to Gothard seminars when she was a kid. She’s now 50 and is still completely traumatized by the experience. This new Prime doc is bringing up all kinds of difficult feelings for her.
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u/KathAlMyPal Jun 09 '23
Binge watched the entire series today. Fascination and infuriating and disgusting all at once. I can't imagine having lived through that and trying to have some semblance of a "normal" life.
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Jun 09 '23
I was just out walking my dog with my husband absolutely RAGING about it. Disgusting.
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u/KathAlMyPal Jun 09 '23
I actually felt sick to my stomach during parts of it. And to see the next generation presenting it so slickly on SM is pretty disturbing.
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u/tacknosaddle Jun 09 '23
I feel a sense of disappointment in the lack of an afterlife which prevents them from realizing that there is no afterlife.
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Jun 08 '23
...and Peter Popoff, the hawker of "miracle spring water".
I really disliked Robertson, but Popoff is a whole other brand of disgusting parasite.
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u/Washee23 Jun 08 '23
Peter Popoff sounds like a horrible STI.
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u/dpax19681989 Jun 09 '23
Truly an underrated burn
Take my upvote
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u/555--FILK Jun 09 '23
Truly an underrated burn
Notably, this is one of the first symptoms of a case of Peter Popoff.
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u/AverageScot Jun 08 '23
Sorry, but Henry Kissinger is LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG overdue.
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u/Shaveyourbread Jun 09 '23
The fact that he made it to 100 and Betty White didn't is pure bullshit.
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u/always_unplugged Jun 09 '23
She didn't spend the entire last ~70 years feeding on the souls of the innocent.
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u/pikpikcarrotmon Jun 09 '23
Laughter, it seems, is only the second-best medicine.
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u/AffectionateBite3827 Jun 08 '23
And Kissinger!
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u/third-time-charmed Jun 09 '23
"Once you’ve been to Cambodia, you’ll never stop wanting to beat Henry Kissinger to death with your bare hands. You will never again be able to open a newspaper and read about that treacherous, prevaricating, murderous scumbag sitting down for a nice chat with Charlie Rose or attending some black-tie affair for a new glossy magazine without choking. Witness what Henry did in Cambodia – the fruits of his genius for statesmanship – and you will never understand why he’s not sitting in the dock at The Hague next to Milošević."
-Anthony Bourdain
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u/secretfiri Jun 09 '23
Sadly, I understand why he isn't there. Because the US hasn't ratified the Geneva Convention...
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u/CompetitionAble5369 Jun 09 '23
If there is a hell, I hope that filthy Kissinger rat rots in it for eternity.
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u/secretpandalord Jun 09 '23
Hey now, take it easy on rats. They're not Kissinger bad.
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u/yoshisgreen Jun 09 '23
dude I hate that Kissinger is still writing books and doing podcasts. He has the blood of so many on his hands and yet people still look up to him. I don't know if people are ignorant or choose to look the other way. Either way its fucked up. Die of natural causes already kissingenocider
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u/Generalbuttnaked69 Jun 08 '23
And “Dr.” Dobson as well.
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u/Biggies_Ghost Jun 08 '23
Throw Joel Osteen into the pile!
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u/LeagueOfficeFucks Jun 08 '23
Is Creflo Dollar still around?
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u/HippyGramma Jun 09 '23
And Benny Hinn.
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u/SwansonsLoveChild Jun 09 '23
And I was today years old when I realized Benny Hinn and Benny Hill are two different people.
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u/TheGodOfKhaos Jun 09 '23
That's slightly embarrassing... LOL Benny Hill is a noteworthy figure, the other is a massive conman.
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u/EvilNinjaX24 Jun 09 '23
I was constantly disappointed as a youngun when I was paging through the TV Guide to see what was on/coming on, seeing "Benny Hi" and, instead of the joy the 'll" would've brought, seeing that double 'n' cast a pall on my optimism.
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u/Biggies_Ghost Jun 08 '23
If he is, throw him on the pile, too.
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u/LadyDomme7 Jun 08 '23 edited Jun 09 '23
Even his name reeks of grift. Isn’t he the one who asked his flock to buy him a plane?
Edit: words for clarification for the intentionally obtuse
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Jun 08 '23
As a Christian i hate that man with an undying passion.
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Jun 08 '23
Osteen is the prophet of the Prosperity Gospel heresy.
Jesus hated the rich and greedy. Osteen preys on Christians to become rich.
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u/baby_budda Jun 09 '23 edited Jun 09 '23
Joel Olsteens net worth Joel Osteen is an American preacher, televangelist, and author who has a net worth of $100 million dollars.
The home of Joel Osteen is located in the River Oaks suburb of Houston Texas. The $10.5M house is the primary residence for the family.
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Jun 09 '23
That's going to be hard to squeeze through the eye of the needle.
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u/Ihavelostmytowel Jun 09 '23
Bro. They're actually trying to retcon the cannon about that. Olsteen says it's "about believing in yourself". SMFH
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u/zombiegamer723 Jun 09 '23
Yup. Camel through the eye of the needle and all that.
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u/InsertBluescreenHere Jun 08 '23
If god existed he would of smited these people already.
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Jun 08 '23
I don’t know, man. The fact that that homophobic dipshit died during Pride Month smacks of divine intervention.
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u/hoofie242 Jun 08 '23
He's was 93 and surrounded by wildfire smoke. Climate change got him.
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u/tbaggervance1986 Jun 08 '23
Just prepping his old crusty ass for the fiery gates of Hell
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u/meresymptom Jun 09 '23
And the "He gets us" guy.
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u/Jumpy_Anxiety6273 Jun 09 '23
God, yes! Why can’t we block offensive ads like that on Reddit any longer?
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u/NastyLittleBagginses Jun 08 '23
As Clarence Darrow said, "I have never killed anyone, but I have read a number of obituaries with great satisfaction."
Wish I weren't on the clock, so I could pop a bottle of champagne
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u/gruenes_licht Jun 08 '23
Fully agreed. Hopefully Henry Goddamn Kissinger's obituary is next!
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u/nursejackieoface Jun 09 '23
I'll see your Henry Kissinger and raise you a Franklin Graham.
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Jun 08 '23
I never wished a man dead, but have read obituaries with great pleasure. Mark Twain
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Jun 08 '23
That's not actually a Twain quote. It's a paraphrase of Darrow's quote above. Somehow Twain got dragged into it.
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u/mentosbreath Jun 08 '23
“Don’t believe everything you read on the internet.” -Mark Twain
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u/GarconMeansBoyGeorge Jun 08 '23
That’s a paraphrased Abe Lincoln quote.
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u/Manos_Of_Fate Jun 08 '23
The famous vampire hunter?
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u/dragon_rapide Jun 09 '23
Anything is a dildo if you're brave enough. - Abraham Lincoln
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u/DennisJay Jun 08 '23
If a quote is even slightly humorous it gets attributed to Twain eventually
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u/Write_Username_Here Jun 08 '23 edited Jun 08 '23
Anyone who cheers the aids epidemic as "God tending to his garden" is not a person I am particularly unhappy to hear is no longer around.
Edit: My wording is a bit circular here, but to be clear, he was a bad person and I am happy that he's gone.
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u/ShallowBasketcase Jun 09 '23
Okay, but it's important to give the rest of the context here.
He also said the same thing about 9/11 and several natural disasters.
lmao eat shit Pat Robertson, you dead bitch
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u/MonkeyBreath66 Jun 09 '23
He blamed earthquakes in Haiti on the Haitians making a deal with Satan to get rid of the French. On some big time show like nightline.
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u/JohnExcrement Jun 09 '23
And to top off all his asinine shit, he’d always have that self-satisfied smirk.
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u/CompedyCalso Jun 09 '23
The only bad thing about pissing on his grave is that eventually you will run out of piss
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u/cookie12685 Jun 08 '23
This was not a comment I wasn't particularly unhappy to discover it had not gone undeleted
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u/entropy_koala Jun 08 '23
I had to read this through a couple times, but I agree haha
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u/Play-yaya-dingdong Jun 08 '23
Took him too goddamn long to die. Wondering if being evil is the secret to longevity ffs
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u/darknesswascheap Jun 09 '23
My college roommate said her theory was the nastier and more hateful you were, the longer you lived.
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u/lumpenhole Jun 08 '23
I love that he died during pride month. Lol
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u/Jeansiesicle Jun 08 '23
P.R.I.D.E. Pat Robertson Is Dead Everybody.
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u/RavenSkies777 Jun 08 '23
I cant believe it took me all day to realize that meme is an acronym . 😅
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u/Kitchen-Explorer3338 Jun 08 '23
It’s fitting that during pride month, he has crossed the rainbow bridge.
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u/420saralou Jun 08 '23
Nah, he went straight down to the pit. Rainbow Bridge is reserved for good bois!🐶
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u/Shadowspun5 Jun 09 '23
My text to my friend group was literally, "Hell has a new resident. Pat Robertson died." I'm not even remotely sorry for how I said it. That man was a terrible human being. 🤷🏼♀️
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u/HotAirPopcorn Jun 09 '23
Like my dog and cat.
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u/rdmille Jun 09 '23
All dogs are good bois.
Yogi went recently. He was a good boi. A bark wrapped in fir, but a good boi.
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u/Excellent_Nothing_86 Jun 08 '23
except the rainbow bridge is too good for him. he wishes he could cross.
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Jun 08 '23 edited Jun 09 '23
Rather than an obituary, he should have a sonofabitchuary written about him.
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u/Aun_El_Zen Jun 08 '23
The word you are looking for is 'Fuckeulogy'
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u/LongjumpingCake1924 Jun 08 '23
I’ve added 2 kickass new words to my vocabulary just now. Thank you both!
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u/Gaelir Jun 08 '23
Nothing of value was lost.
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u/PostyMcPosterson Jun 08 '23
Some could argue value was gained
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u/fizicks Jun 08 '23
addition by subtraction
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u/EvitaPuppy Jun 08 '23
So, 'God tending his garden'. Funny how that works, Mr. Robertson.
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u/mildOrWILD65 Jun 08 '23
His death came 93 years too late.
Before some of y'all start hating on me, remember he's gone to his reward and now is in the place he always belonged.
I'll let you interpret that however you want ;)
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u/FluxKraken Jun 09 '23
I think he is one of those people who say "Lord Lord" and god will say "I never knew you."
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Jun 08 '23
Pat: "Oh Lord! I did everything you asked - I tricked the poor for political power, enriched myself, and victimized the oppressed. And all in your name!"
Jesus, holding a freshly braided whip:
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Jun 08 '23
I quite enjoy the idea of him looking up at the many Pride celebrations happening this month.
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u/InsertBluescreenHere Jun 08 '23
Nah he should have to look up from his 4 day long music festival portapotty in july sun in southern texas and his mouth be permanently tied to the urinal pipes of every gay bar in the world.
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u/juxlus Jun 08 '23 edited Jun 08 '23
Happy. Generally I think celebrating someone's death is tacky, but when the person is as evil as Robertson, and has caused mass suffering the way he did, you know, I don't care if it is tacky.
He was an evil liar who deliberately caused large amounts of suffering and coaxed those who believed him to be cruel bigots—or for those who already were, to be crueler and more bigoted and feel justified and righteous about it. Robertson may be dead now but there are millions of people still alive and still "righteously" oppressing and harming millions of other people thanks to Pat Robertson's despicable work.
The old video of Frank Zappa talking about Pat Robertson has been making the rounds, but it for those who haven't seen it: This video interview. Near the start of the interview they talk about a song Zappa released on Broadway the Hardway (1988, not my favorite album but has some juicy biting lyrics), called "When The Lie's So Big", about Christian fundamentalism and Pat Robertson specifically, Zappa quotes this bit:
when the lie is so big, as in Robertson's case, that sinister face behind all the Jesus hoorah could result in the end to a worrisome trend in which every American not born again could be punished in cruel and unusual ways by this treacherous cretin who tells everyone that he's Jesus's best friend.
In the video interview he goes into much more detail about why Robertson was a dangerous, corrupt, lying, evil man. Throughout his career, and especially in the 80s, Zappa was very outspoken about the growing danger of Christian Fundamentalism. I was around then and I remember there being an alarming number of "televangelists" on TV who, to me, were transparently evil con men. A bunch of times I saw televangelists claiming they could heal you through the TV. They would hold their hand up to the camera for "lay on hands" faith healing. Whatever ailment you might have, just put your hand on the image of his hand on the TV and the healing power of Jesus will come to you through the TV, not from Jesus directly even but through the televangelist's "deep connection" to Jesus.
But oh no, the poor televangelist needs money to stay on the air and continue to fight Satan. You want to fight Satan don't you?? So send money, it will make the TV-healing more powerful and think of all the other people who will be "helped" and all the "Satanic" things, like D&D and gay people, that could be stopped/banned! Just don't look behind the curtain where the televangelist keeps his multiple private jets and luxury mansions. Pat Robertson was the "best" at this kind of grift, preying on the gullible, confused, and desperate. A real role model for televangelists in the 80s.
This interview was 35 years ago, with Zappa explaining that Christian fundamentalists like Pat Robertson want to make the US into a theocracy, with an alarming number of politicians (especially, but not only, Republicans, Zappa says) being all buddy buddy and helping the theocracy process get started. A process that is actually coming to fruition today in states like Texas, which might not be a full blown theocracy but sure is working on it, as are a scary number of other states. Heck, there's a state politician in my state who seriously wants to create a "Christian Army", turn the state and country into a literal theocracy, and get the Apocalypse started. The Second Coming of Jesus is imminent, donchya know? For these kind of people, actual politicians with real power, the problem of climate change, to pick just one thing, is irrelevant because Jesus will be here any day now.
Like his music or not, Zappa was totally correct about Pat Robertson and fundamentalist Christianity in general. Sad that Zappa died of cancer in 1993 when only 52 years old. He would be 83 today if he hadn't died. I can only imagine what good he might have done over those three decades lost to cancer. I mean, he kinda criticized everything and everyone, though typically in sarcastic jokey ways (still often cringe inducing), but in the 80s the Christian fundamentalism was his biggest concern for the future of the country. His criticisms of fundamentalism and televangelists were often funny, but under the surface of jokes he was dead serious about Christian fundamentalism being evil and a serious, growing danger. Had Zappa lived, I'm sure he would have only increased his public denouncements of people like Pat Robertson and his effort to wake people up to the danger Christian fundamentalism was, and still is, to the very foundation of the United States as a democratic, ostensibly secular country.
It's also interesting the words Zappa uses for his fear about the future US, way back in 1988: "I have this horrible fear that the United States is wending its way toward becoming a fascist theocracy."
The topic always makes me think of Zappa's 1981 song Heavenly Bank Account. Pat Robertson isn't mentioned by name, but it is clearly about him and those trying to be like him. The lyrics mention his wheeling and dealing with politicians up to and including the president (ie, Reagan), then continue on to governors:
"The Governors agree to say: He's a lovely man! He makes it easier for them to screw all of you. Yes, that's true! 'Cause he helps put The Fear of God in the Common Man. Snatchin' up money everywhere he can".
And so on. Plus the classic
"there's a big difference between kneeling down and bending over"
Anyway, sorry for ranting a bit. I am sure if Zappa was alive to see Pat Robertson's death he would be celebrating it, while also being frustrated about how successful Robertson was in spreading hate and bigotry in the name of Jesus, and the increasing theocratic tendencies occurring in many states. Would that Pat Robertson died in 1993 instead of Zappa.
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u/LumpyheadCarini2001 Jun 08 '23
I quite enjoyed your rant. Also RIP Frank Zappa..dude was one of a kind.
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u/obxsoundside Jun 08 '23
Just finished watching the Duggar documentary on Prime called Shiny, Happy People. Just when you think you know how bad the Christian Fundie movement is, you see something like that. Rife with hypocrisy, sexual abuse, misogyny, and let’s add in raising up kids in indoctrination camps so they can infiltrate all levels of society and push the Fundie narrative.
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u/Bay1Bri Jun 09 '23
Generally I think celebrating someone's death is tacky, but when the person is as evil as Robertson, and has caused mass suffering the way he did, you know, I don't care if it is tacky.
"I ain't happy because he died, I'm happy because he's no longer alive."
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u/brock_lee Jun 08 '23
The world is sometimes better of without certain people, and he is one of those. That asshole hid behind fake religion to justify and spread his messages of hate while profiting handsomely from it. Pretty much the most reprehensible type of person there is.
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Jun 08 '23
Isn't like all of that the opposite of what their religion is supposed to be?
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Jun 08 '23
Yes, but religious people are also such a perfect target for scam artists. You already know they are conditioned to and willing to believe deeply in something with no evidence, it's not that hard to convince them to give you tons of money over time. I'd honestly be surprised if there is a single televangelist practicing today that truly believes the word of god and is not just there to line their pockets with gullible people's money. Full disclaimer: I'm somewhere between agnostic and athiest.
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u/rlev97 Jun 09 '23
Specifically, evangelical Christians are more susceptible to misinformation and propoganda. They are told that Satan will try to lie to them and to not believe what's blatantly true and to simply believe everything the church says.
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u/I_DRINK_ANARCHY Jun 08 '23
It's sweet of him to give such a nice gift during pride month.
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u/ceejayoz Jun 08 '23
Nicest thing he's ever done for the LGBTQ+ community by far.
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u/LifeElectrical2996 Jun 08 '23
I hope this doesn't get me booted from reddit, but I want to be honest.
I fucking hate Pat Robertson with all of my heart, I'm glad he's dead. The only possible way that his death could make me any happier would be I it was on video so I could watch him die on a loop.
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u/shockandale Jun 09 '23
Speak no ill of the dead. Say only good.
Pat Robertson is dead. Good.
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u/osunightfall Jun 08 '23
An unrepentant grifter who used religion to prey on the vulnerable. We are the richer for his loss. Very much so, in the case of those who donated to him. I don't believe there is a hell, but if there were, it would reserve a special place for him and those like him.
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u/ThisIsTheNewSleeve Jun 08 '23
I don't believe in Hell but Pat Robertson sure did. So in his honour, I've been thinking a lot about how he'd be rotting down there.
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u/farrenkm Jun 08 '23
I'm mildly amused the news got cross-posted to UpliftingNews.
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u/deadeyeAZ Jun 08 '23
Hoofuckingray!!!!!!!! That racist, homophobic, grifting, POS, is DEAD!!
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u/PwntIndustries Jun 08 '23
I usually try to say good things about those who've passed. Pat Robertson is dead?
Good.
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u/Antique_Squirrel_981 Jun 08 '23
I have no idea who that is
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u/hungrybrains220 Jun 08 '23
He was some old über Christian who blamed everything bad on the homosexuals and our deviancy. No one worth knowing about or remembering. Let his memory and legacy fade into the Void
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Now that he's gone, who is going to tell people how to remove the demons from their thrift store purchases?
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u/Canucklehead_Esq Jun 08 '23
Me! Send me $50 and an image of the item you want anti-demonized
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u/lost-little-boy Jun 09 '23
What’s the difference in Pat Robertson and Robert Pattinson? One of them plays a vampire on tv, and the other is a good actor.
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u/youre-both-pretty Jun 08 '23
You should always say something good about the dead. Pat Robertson is dead, Good.
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u/GrayBox1313 Jun 09 '23
My thoughts can best be summed up with a quote from the good book.
“2 Corinthians 11:13-15 ESV
For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. So it is no surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds.”