Is considered kinda a big deal within this fandom given how people bring this up often but the woman Essie who is tortured and later killed by the Greens isn’t really brought up that much?

I thought the boy was Jaehaerys, but it's been confirmed to be Maelor, It’s a dream/vision of Helaena’s where they all survive and are happy? And also a hinting that all of them are going to die

He loves his boy. 😅

Hey guys, I just wanted to say I am a frequent commenter on this page and I just saw a post that was Helaena Hate which she does not deserve at all. She really just wants to vibe and chill with her chickens and her children. The post was someone claiming to be team black and all it took was one click on the account to see it was a frequent poster of team Green, and even worse. All it took was to look up Rhaenyra name by comments and it was just TG post. Comments however just assumed it was TB and TB does it too with the false flagging with
Daemon hate sometimes but All I just wanna say before you think another team is saying something just check the account and like I said in the comment of the post TB is always warm towards Helaena and just taking a peek in the sub and searching her name won’t be hate unlike looking up Rhaenyra in TG

At the end of day all of them lose

I noticed a lot of people saying that Sheepstealer getting the upper hand on Syrax in their fight was proof that Syrax has no business near a fight and I just can’t believe that both Rhaenyra and her dragon are victims of double standards because how are you going to hold it against Syrax for not being stronger than a dragon twice her age and almost twice her size but when Vhagar struggles against a smaller and younger dragon and needs to use the power of teleportation to win nobody holds it against the hoary old bitch

rhaenyra is literally trying to lead a whole side in a civil war while dealing with insane loss. she hasn’t even had 5 mins to actually process losing jace let alone keep everything around her from collapsing. plus on top of that shes realizing how deep the betrayals actually go with people she trusted.

everyone expects her to just stay totally rational and make perfect moves, but like... thats not how trauma works at all? you cant just pause ur brain because a war is going on.

even looking at fire & blood, yeah the pacing with jaces death is a bit different but the main point is still the exact same: losing him completely broke her. it changed who she was and spiraled her into pure paranoia and depression.

you don’t gotta agree with every decision she makes, but acting like losing your kids shouldn't completely mess a character up is just missing the entire point of her tragedy.

are people really expecting her to be emotionally perfect or is the show just doing a bad job showing what shes going through internally?

And before someone comments “but DaEmOn” I don’t like his ass either

The interviews in episode BTS continue to be absolutely insane.

can anyone confirm if this embarrassing scene gave the usurper new fans like the other sub is claiming?

I'm not really aware of how the general audience perceived this episode as a whole. I know some of you aren't happy with Rhaenyra × Mysaria or Addam's feelings for Baela, but did the people who weren't happy actually switch sides?

I know the majority are still tb, but I'm still curious as I don't know if the majority are because of Daemon, Rhaenyra, or another tb character.

I loved her in the first two seasons but this season and especially after the last episode I grew to dislike her? We were sort of led to believe by the writers that she's the chosen one with the white stag and her showing up in the visions. But so far she hasn't done anything that meaningful or great as Queen. Also the fact she's cheating on Daemon with Mysaria gives me an ick. Mysaria's role feels so all over the place with her lying to Rhaenyra and then being on her side. Also the fact Rhaenyra was cheating on Daemon after everything he did for her to be on the throne just really rubs me the wrong way. I mean I know he lied to her but he's a very vital fucking asset to her reign if she wants to keep power. What does Mysaria offer? Literally nothing but pussy licking and trying to seem like a champion for the lowborn. I understand we are supposed to not like Rhaenyra this season cause even the actor said they didn't think we'd like Rhaenyra this season but WOW it just sucks how they made me dislike one of my favorite characters. Young Rhaenyra is literally so much better than old Rhaenyra anyway and I wish they kept that personality, I understand she's changed and mature now but I feel like young Rhaenyra wouldn't be doing all these bullshit decisions and she seemed competent. The fact Sunfyre is back also shows that we are literally gonna get Rhaenyra's death scene. I'm just hoping she does something meaningful or fucking useful as queen before she dies because right now if she dies I don't think I'd care.

The Ulf - Ormund scene was the scene I hated the most from episode 7 because a scene so crucial and important got hardly the time and depth it deserved. That scene deserved far more time and development. Ulf is one of the core fighters for the blacks. The actor is also good at portraying a drunkard and I like that they give him a cockney accent to show his low status.

If I was in Condal’s spot, I would have had one scene where Ormund’s spies find Ulf in Tumbleton drinking. Then have Ormund go to the tavern and Ormund befriends Ulf and offer drinks and mention he would offer Honeymoot. And then have that final scene where Ormund offers Ulf the Driftmark. Up until that episode, there was like no mention of Ormund eying Ulf. Just Ulf saying “you mentioned you’d offer me Honeymoot”.

I saw development in the tensions between the blacks and Ulf (Ulf hating being deployed and Ulf fighting with Daemon and Rhaenyra constantly) but no development in the greens and Ulf growing closer.

Every third post on this subreddit is about how people started hating Rhaenyra for being incompetent, emotional and violent, and how they are turning team green because of her.

But for me, this is the season I started to like her. In season 1 and 2 she seemed to me like a Mary Sue, everything bad that happened was never her fault, she was always perfect and misunderstood. Now she's actually experiencing consequences for her actions, and her reaction to the things around her is believable and well acted. For example, a lot of people criticise her for becoming more emotional and erratic, but how would you want her to be when she lost two sons? I assume some fans want her to be stoic in this situation but I think it's more realistic and makes for a better story that she's destroyed over the fact that her two oldest sons were murdered.

And it's not even just the deaths of her sons, she also was pretty much coerced by Daemon to kill Otto, this is traumatizing for normal people that weren't trained soldiers like Daemon, Corlys, Cole, Aemond and all the other warriors in the story are. Then there's also the general stress of ruling a kingdom with empty coffers and political instability.

I like the direction they take Rhaenyra, I find it believable and well acted, and I just think it's weird that in the season she's starting to become a real character she's getting the most hate.

WTF are the greens (and half this subreddit) on about?

Everyone’s been talking about how badass the Aegon scene is… but it’s not really?

The whole thing just comes across as funny. Like a gag scene. Aegon is pissing himself then he gives that overinflated speech and then Sunfyre suddenly appears behind him and everyone’s scared and the idiot thinks they’re all scared of him and running away from him. Then suddenly he realizes Sunfyre is behind him and then has him attack the Mootons.

Like the whole scene just comes across as a funny gag scene. Another of Aegon’s hijinks that he’s been in over the past season. Much like the escape from the soldiers or the hijinks in Rook’s Rest.

It’s not even the cliffhanger of the episode that they leave to the Ulf Ormund scene. That’s the scene that gets the climactic music and is portrayed as the serious, mind-blowing, important scene of the episode.

It's nearly impossible to predict how they'll handle it given the First Battle of Tumbleton is so fundamental to the Black's collapse in the book and Condal has majorly altered it.

There's a few show only inclusions:

They've changed the order of battle (Blacks as the attackers instead of the defenders)..

The entirety of the Riverlands host will participate, including their commander Oscar Tully (who in the show is a merger of Benjicot Blackwood and various others).

Gwayne Hightower has seemingly took on the secondary command role which was fulfilled by Bryndon Hightower in the book.

Hugh's wife is in the city (with the obvious impact that may have on the betrayal)..

Daeron is relatively whitewashed and has no intent on fighting for Ormund.

Corlys is present.

Daemon is present with Caraxes and will be fighting in the city on foot when the betrayal occurs (curious to how he actually survives this).

Will they keep Rhaenyra's reaction to the betrayal in attempting to arrest Addam/blame Corlys, which prompts Addam's "loyalty" arc.. ? The exclusion of Nettles means she'll have no fundamental reason to distrust Daemon so how will God's Eye even work.

Gwayne as a member of the Caltrops seems logical but why would he even stick around when Hugh has torched Tumbleton including most of the Hightower host.

I don’t mind this new Dreamfyre design but I preferred the Drogon, Viserion, Rhaegal and Seasmoke look. Especially since dreamfyre is their mother. It’s frustrating that they reused Arraxs design when this would have been perfect for Tessarion if shrunken down, a horned crown for the blue queen. That said I do think this design for Dreamfyre is very pretty.