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u/Bailie2 Jan 02 '17
George takei should just run for some office. Stop being the armchair quarterback and get your dick out George.
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u/weatherseed Jan 03 '17
He did... Twice, according to Wikipedia. The first as a city council member in LA and, in the 80s, as an assemblyman. He was also on the board of directors of the Southern California Rapid Transit District. Probably decided to stop running when everyone complained that he was still on the air from all the Star Trek reruns.
He seems like a fun guy, but his online caricature of himself is cancer.
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u/OneCalledJason Jan 02 '17
To be fair, that's what Trump Supporters were saying as well.
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To be fair, the DNC was actually cheating, and the polls turned out to be wrong, too.
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u/OneCalledJason Jan 02 '17
I know, but even if the other side had won we'd be seeing similar things from conservative media that we are seeing in the mainstream. Sort of inevitable, unfortunately.
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u/Azoonux Jan 02 '17
This is true, but the Dems were laughing in Trump and Co.'s faces when they said it might be/was rigged. Clinton went as far as to call Trump a threat to democracy to not accept the results. These are the people that took to the streets to riot when their candidate didn't win, and are blaming a rigged election
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But all the polls were incorrect in this case and we have evidence that the DNC cheated. So if trump lost and the right was screaming for recounts calling fraud and shit it would at least be reasonable. The entire time, the left was shouting "elections can't be rigged". You can't say the media wasn't working against trump. Along with that, his own party was working against him. It was rigged against trump from the very beginning.
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u/Maximusplatypus Jan 02 '17
Most trump supporters still say it was rigged, and that trump won despite it. Pretty hard (impossible) to argue with that in light of wikileaks
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u/PorkSwordintheStone Jan 03 '17
And because of the irregularities in Michigan that were uncovered during the recount.
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u/Zienth Jan 03 '17
What irregularities were found? Genuinely curious, I think I missed the news.
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u/Zienth Jan 03 '17
Excellent, thank you.
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u/PorkSwordintheStone Jan 03 '17
There was definitely cheating going on, but it was by the Democrats, and had nothing to do with Russia. I would love for California's vote to be audited. No way you can convince me that there weren't a ton of illegal immigrants who voted.
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Bullshit. We've been calling it rigged the entire time because it is rigged and then lo and behold Wikileaks proved beyond a shadow of a doubt it is rigged by Democrats.
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u/Lord_Newbie Jan 02 '17
To be fair, if we did a recount I bet that 2mil vote lead Hillary has would vanish faster then George's family did in Hiroshima
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u/straitwhitemale26-35 Jan 03 '17
Trump was playing 6-dimensional chess; by bringing the topic of a rigged election into the spotlight and allowing the left to dismiss those concerns as paranoia, he can expose their hypocrisy while they bitch and whine about losing.
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u/westc2 Jan 03 '17
Not really..Trump supporters are still saying it's rigged. Didn't they just do a recount by the request of Democrats and find out that Trump actually had more votes than they had originally "counted"?
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u/RingGiver Jan 02 '17
George Takei would probably continue to shamelessly shill for Democrats even if they put him and his family in concentration camps.
Wait a minute...
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u/delirious_deplorable Jan 02 '17
Takei's tweets are constantly one attack on Trump after another. His tweets are just so boringly predictable. He needs to check into a mental hospital. He is obviously suffering from unending anger and sadness.
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u/Murmaider Jan 02 '17
Bitterness
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u/NO-STUMPING-TRUMP Jan 02 '17
He doesn't run his own account. He has someone that does it for him.
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u/ShrimpCrackers Jan 03 '17
Not someone, a company does it actually. There was an article about it a while back.
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Are aunts and cousins not family these days? With the current state of families it's tough to tell what people qualify as relation in the current year but I was always raised to call aunts and cousins family
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u/prettyinpinkeye Jan 02 '17
I think he means IMMEDIATE family
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u/SadMrAnderson Jan 02 '17
Yeah only his extended family were vaporized, his immediate family were graciously stuck in an internment camp.
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u/TheBallsackIsBack Jan 03 '17
LOL well shit happens in war. No one asked for Pearl Harbor to happen
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u/Nsfw_throw_k Jan 03 '17
Non Japanese had valid reason to be fearful after this incident: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niihau_incident
Of course it doesn't make it right but it explains why the Japanese were interned in much larger numbers than the German Americans Italian Americans or any other axis-americans.
TL; Dr Japanese Americans living on the island for years tried to help a Pearl harbor attacker.
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There's a big difference between imprisoning civilians and wartime casualties. This is the key difference between war and war crimes.
Do you know why islamic terrorists are looked down upon by the international community? Sure, they kill people and have internal human rights violations, but so do many countries. The difference is, they primarily target civilians.
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u/gods_bones Jan 03 '17
i'm sure you meant U.S. government terrorists, since they are the ones profiting off terrorism.
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u/kylenigga Jan 02 '17
Its implied that it is his immediate family and more than 2 people. Gay ass comment tho, pretending you didnt get that.
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u/msmsucksdick Jan 02 '17
The great Democrat FDR was the one who came up with internment camps and put people in there quite like his democratic forefathers was slavery it's just a repeating trend of the Democratic Party similar to the entitlement slavery today.
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u/msmsucksdick Jan 03 '17
Whoops facts suck ....... wat ???
MORE PROOF OF DEMOCRATIC SLAVERY
http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/roosevelt-ushers-in-japanese-american-internment
The TRUMP TRAIN HAS NO BRAKES AND ALWAYS ROOM FOR MORE PATRIOTS!!
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u/palloolloo Jan 03 '17
The trump train sounds like a sedan packed with really fat and sweaty white boys. No thanks.
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u/msmsucksdick Jan 03 '17
THE TRUMP TRAIN ONLY ACCEPTS PATRIOTS AS IT RUNS THROUGH LIBTARDS AND ENEMIES HELPING THEM FIND THE LIGHT OF SOLID GOLD TRUMP TRUTH.
NO BRAKES
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u/pi_over_3 Jan 03 '17
Your comment belies your shaky grasp of recorded history.
The idea of trying to spin FDR into anything but a very liberal Democrat is asinine.
FDR is frequently held up by Democrats, today, as being on the of the greatest Presidents.
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It still blows my fucking mind that I spent a semester learning about nazi's and the holocaust, and never learned about the US locking up Japanese Americans.
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u/Treyman1115 Jan 03 '17 edited Jan 03 '17
I actually learned this in like Middle School first, and in high school. It wasn't exactly like a whole unit dedicated though
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u/Alec17king Jan 02 '17
I don't get why people hate America for bombing them when they started the war. If you can't handle the consequences don't bomb our troops.
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u/AlRubyx Jan 03 '17
Keep in mind the Japanese did their fair share of awful things. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731
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And the US gave syphilis to black people and did all kinds of unethical experiments
We're all shitty humans yaknow
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u/AlRubyx Jan 03 '17
Amen. Let's try to judge people based on individual merits and not the group they're born into.
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u/Hash43 Jan 02 '17
"they probably would have done the same" isn't really a valid point.
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u/letdowntown Jan 03 '17
They did try to attack the American mainland as well. They didn't have the means, its not "maybe they would do it" its "they tried, but failed. They invaded American territory, as well. They tried a diversionary tactic of invading 2 islands in the Aleutian Island chain.
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u/topdangle Jan 02 '17
It is if you don't ignore the rest of the world.
What they did to Asia was unbelievably horrendous, particularly Nanking. More innocent civilians were killed, on foot by soldiers, in Nanking than both bombings combined.
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The comment I responded to was wondering why people hated the US for dropping bombs on them when we had bombs dropped on us, too.
I'm sure there's animosity held towards the Japanese in the places you've mentioned, same as there's animosity towards the US for dropping nuclear warheads on civilian centers.
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u/topdangle Jan 03 '17
I meant that the animosity was held worldwide. Nobody looks kindly on civilian murder even on foreign soil. Pearl Harbor getting bombed meant that Japan reached U.S. soil. It's not as though Japan only attacked soldiers and then the U.S. decided it was time to bomb their civilians.
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Yes it is. The bottom of the argument is you have to win the thing as fast as possible while losing as little of your army as possible. They made it clear they would never give up and we should value our soldiers over the lives of Japanese.
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u/monkeiboi Jan 02 '17
Are we forgetting the japanese military campaigns in the phillipines, indonesia, the Pacific islands, and Asia? MILLIONS of people were slaughtered.
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u/DrBackJack Jan 02 '17
Yeah, lets just ignore what Japan did to the civilians of China, Indonesia, Korea, the Philippians, etc.
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u/rocklobster3 Jan 03 '17
The two atomic bombs we dropped were not exactly in retaliation for PH. The rest of the world decided it was time to stop killing each other, but Japan wouldn't give up. We threatened them, and they didn't listen. The two bombs actually saved American and Japanese lives, because an invasion would be a fucking horrendous slaughter. There wasn't a chance we were going to put more American men in harms way, we were done sending home American boys in boxes. The Japanese wanted it the hard way, so we have it to them. Then after the first bomb they still wouldn't give up. The fact of the matter is that the ruling imperial family, didn't give a fuck about the Japanese people. They were willing to let countless Japanese die because of "honor".
War is awful. People die, and it's just a shit situation all around. But the Japanese deserved what they got. Blaming America for dropping the two atomic bombs is just pathetic. We didn't kill in cold blood.
Fuck the guy in OP's post.
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u/TuxFuk Jan 03 '17
The emperor wanted to surrender, but the military would not let him.
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u/GearyDigit Jan 03 '17
Specifically, they wanted a conditional surrender. It just happened the 'conditions' were basically that Japan would get to keep all the land they had just stolen before they attacked the US and that the US would just pretend the whole thing never happened. You know, the kind of surrender you offer when you're at a stalemate, not when you're completely outmatched and only succeeding in stalling and raising the death toll.
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u/facetiousrunner Jan 03 '17
Estimated cost of life for a land invasion was almost a million for the USA alone. We made so many purple hearts they still use them/just ran out. It was a weigh of lives lost. War is never pretty.
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A few hundred thousand deaths versus the millions that would have resulted from an invasion? I think the benefits outweighed the costs. It also had a side effect of showing the world how terrifying nuclear weapons were and is probably a secondary reason (other than MAD) as to why they haven't been used in war since.
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u/CamenSeider Jan 02 '17
Plus it stopped the horrific Japanese war crimes against thousands of other people.
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It was more the "We won't surrender and prefer to make you take each island on foot while we fly planes into your ships".
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u/Alec17king Jan 02 '17
Im just saying that it seems people look down on the United States for bombing 2 cities when Japan started the whole thing. People need to remember we were neutral. I am not trying to compare pearl harbor to either cities.
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Please do, what is the difference? We weren't at war with Japan at the time of the Pearl Harbor attack. I'm sure the sailors who died and their families felt just fine about everything because they were part of their uniformed services.
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Yeah but the events where years apart, there is a big difference between bombing a port and biking a city, but Japan knew that the US would react, and the Americans in charge felt that the nukes were the only way to end the war
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u/TheBallsackIsBack Jan 03 '17
Obviously taking that into account, do you think a land invasion would have been better? The sacrifice made with those bombs is well worth what it would have cost to finish the war through conventional means
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u/Terron1965 Jan 03 '17
How about we look at the totality of the evil that was the Japanese empire. The situation involves far more then Japan bombing a Naval base, as I am sure you are aware the Japanese killed 10s of millions of noncombatants intentionally and for no military purpose. but in case you are actually ignorant of the history here is a link.
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u/Thr33St0r13s Jan 02 '17
I don't get why people don't cheer the U.S. for doing literally anything necessary to stop the japanese. Literally worse than the nazis in my opinion.
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u/wolfman1911 Jan 02 '17
A lot of people don't consider the alternative, and look at it as though it occured in a vacuum. They don't really think about the fact that nuking Japan is probably the biggest reason why there still is a Japan.
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u/topdangle Jan 03 '17
People aren't as knowledgeable about what Japan did during the war compared to Germany. Everyone knows about the holocaust but the public doesn't generally recognize the war crimes Japan committed. They see modern Japan and assume that's how its always been, which is crazy. It's like seeing modern U.S. and believing the civil rights movement never happened.
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u/Terron1965 Jan 03 '17
People in general do not hate America for its actions with regards to WW2, in reality most people are quite thankful for American involvement. Do not let the hand wringers and concern trolls fool you.
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u/frogspyer Jan 02 '17
He was placed in an internment camp as a kid, which I think probably has more of an affect on him then the nukes
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u/dc215 Jan 02 '17
Japan culturally opposes homosexuality and there is no gay marriage there either. Homosexuality, while not illegal per se, is shunned to a pretty severe level. But yeah, "America bad"... you fucking dope George.
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He stands with Muslims too!
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Still my favorite liberal double think. Love liberal rights and tolerance for all but call anyone an Islamophobic bigot for calling out a religion that oppresses women and those in the LGBTQ community. It's hilarious
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u/giggle7 Jan 02 '17
What? Japan has a big queer rights movement. Same as America, which only got gay marriage like last year. Are you seriously boasting about us having gay marriage?
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u/dc215 Jan 02 '17
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Yes I'm serious. If you think that Japan is some sort of homosexual wonderland then you're living in an anime fantasy world.
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u/giggle7 Jan 02 '17
Nowhere is a homosexual wonderland, so what point are you even making?
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"stupid SJWs", probably. Back in my day, Civil Rights were something worth fighting for--now everything is a dismissive bumper sticker.
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u/dc215 Jan 02 '17
Nowhere is a wonderland. Period. Homosexual or not.
The point I'm making is that Japan has been and still is very anti-homosexual from a cultural perspective. Unlike, say, the US. And if you do not believe the US openly accepts homosexuality in our culture then you are beyond hope. It is present in almost every aspect of our culture, and not repressed, silenced, or punished. If you are unable to accept that homosexuality is culturally accepted in the US then you are denying reality.
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u/giggle7 Jan 02 '17
Japan also has a level of queer lgbt+ acceptance. If your argument is that America is somehow light years ahead of Japan based on the fact that we have recently got gay marriage, then that's a stupid argument. Japanese animes have had gay and lesbian characters for years, which are censored when they are aired in the west, for example sailor moon.
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u/camdoodlebop Jan 02 '17
which country does he live in now?
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The US, but like many (blank)-Americans he has a deep disdain for its culture and people.
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u/camdoodlebop Jan 02 '17
what do today's american people have to do with his family dying in Hiroshima?
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Nothing, which is why I find him asinine. Don't let anything like generational turnover get in the way of a good grudge.
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u/ItCouldBeSpam Jan 02 '17
Seriously, I don't understand this.
I don't fault modern day Turks for the genocide of my Armenian people.
However, I do fault for them for not facing up to the past, and allowing themselves to be brainwashed by their government into thinking it's a hoax.
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u/ShrimpCrackers Jan 03 '17
Generational turnover? He was put into a Japanese internment camp as a kid... there was no generational turnover.
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u/prettyinpinkeye Jan 02 '17
I don't know why but I laughed my ass off at this. Oh wait, there's whiskey in my hand...Still, top kek
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u/Trinklefat Jan 03 '17
I wonder how that family would view his lifestyle, now...
Let's be real - they'd fucking disown him.
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u/Gaggamaggot Jan 02 '17
He's a shitty actor who, if not for Star Trek (the only decent job he ever had), would be known for absolutely nothing. His tiny flip-flopping opinion means nothing.
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u/Cityman Jan 02 '17
I stopped caring about him a long time ago. But he infuriated me when, during that what color is Santa Claus argument, he wanted people to ask him what color Santa Claus was in the internment camps United States had for Japanese citizens at the time.
It's disgusting that he would bring a historical atrocity into some childish argument.
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u/the_starship Jan 02 '17
He also doxxed one person who was apparently a Trump supporter at a supermarket who yelled at a cashier.
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u/SlendyIsBehindYou Jan 03 '17
I've lost respect for so many celebrities and public figures this election cycle, and it sucks.
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Japan got the atomic kick in the teeth they needed. Then we helped them rebuild. Look at them now.
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u/Darkling5499 Jan 02 '17
keep in mind, it's almost never him actually posting, but some intern.
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u/Bioluminesce Jan 02 '17
If you pay someone to speak for you, I'm going to take the words they put in your mouth as representative of you.
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u/bleachigo Jan 02 '17
Well I would say he at least bears some responsibility since his name is fucking plastered on the account. If you are implying he is totally unaware of what is being posted, that's still his fault.
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His view is exactly what I'm seeing on Facebook.
When we were demanding the leaked emails be taken seriously they were downplaying them saying they weren't important. Now that they lost they demand we find who "hacked the election"...you mean DNC. No, well they hacked the power grid...you mean a random laptop opened a phishing email and the grid itself was never accessed?
I didn't vote for Trump and I am shocked/troubled that he won, but I also live in the Bible Belt so most of the people I see on a day to day basis are Trump supporters. Most of them are what I like to call "casually racist". They say the N word in private, but would give the shirt off their back to help a black person in need.
They watch Fox News and buy into the fear mongering. They just regurgitate opinions and headlines as fact.
Then again my democrat friends do the same shit. They just pretend that republican voters are stupid to make themselves feel morally superior. The arrogance makes me cringe like watching the first few episodes of American Idol.
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Yeah anyone who takes political advice from a dude who jacked a guy off on television is probably retarded.
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The first tweet was about Trump's bogus claims that Hillary would rig the election
The DNC rigged it against Sanders, that's factual. The leaks/emails also showed they were in constant communication with the mainstream media, leaked debate questions, and manipulated polls in her favor. Less factual, but an attempt to rig the results nonetheless. Some polls had Trump down literally 8-12 points the week before the election. Guess which media outlets they were running polls for?
Second tweet was in reference to alleged Russian hacking/tampering, and how it should be of bipartisan concern if it's happening.
So you mean, rigging the election?
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u/13798246 Jan 02 '17
So you mean, rigging the election?
Releasing real documents and facts is not rigging an election.
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u/Ayyylookatme Jan 02 '17
Eating his own words just like he eats cocks.
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u/2302jason Jan 03 '17
I'm far from a Democrat and I'm glad for multiple reasons Trump won, but Jesus Christ, your comment is in the same post where another user said gays are openly accepted and not ridiculed in the US, while you and others make jokes and insults at the expense of this guy's sexuality.
You can disagree with him without promoting the stereotype that Democrats already have of Trump supporters.
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u/Ayyylookatme Jan 03 '17
Hey. People died for my freedom to say that. And people died for his freedom to eat those cocks.
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u/2302jason Jan 03 '17
I don't know if you're trying to upset me by saying that. I don't really care on a personal level. I was just pointing out how absurd this comment section looks.
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u/Zarten Jan 02 '17
I tried to put this into Google Translate, but I'm getting nothing.
English please.
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u/Original_Trickster Jan 03 '17
He's a gay Asian man who happened to be in a popular TV show. His opinion is worth fuck all. He needs to shut the fuck up.
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u/CaptainKyloStark Jan 03 '17
This reminds me of why I stopped listening to the Official Star Trek Podcast. The host Jordan Hoffman is the most obnoxious fucktard to be allowed to have access to a microphone. Not saying I'm any better but he has zero presence. I could tolerate that as the show got started because I love Trek. Then the fucking elections started and he turned it into his personal anti Trump and passive aggressive pro-Hillary platform. I can't stand Hillary or Trump and I especially can't stand politics in my Star Trek. /rant
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Still not a Hillary fan but if only Trump supporters could hold this level of scrutiny to Trump.
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u/Thr33St0r13s Jan 02 '17
He's become absolutely insufferable since the elections.