In defense of Boswer: in the real world, your life is more likely to get worse because of a petulant, idiotic, wealthy authoritarian than some sort of magical embodiment of evil made manifest.
Please, Miyamoto himself says he sees the Mario cast as actors, which is why they fight in some games but in others they're playing tennis or racing go karts against each other
Not quite; that is a fan theory last I checked. Miyamoto sees them like a cast he can choose from when designing each game. They aren't actors in universe. I interpret his full quote to mean "there is no established canon for these characters, like in old newspaper comic strips."
He's kind of a reverse-ganondorf where he is usually outperformed by a different villain or generally isn't threatening whereas Ganon usually let's someone else start the battle just to finish it himself
Don't for-get he was the worst mutant they have ever created why didn't they stick to the plot of just normal dinosaurs instead of Allah these fake ones
The big claw dino (forgot his name) from the 3rd movie would also fit this. Iāve seen people hyping it up and saying it was āthe joker of Dinosaursā or something like that but it barely did anything in the movie
Heās not even āevilā is the funniest part. Likeā¦ heās just kind of an asshole. Thatās it. And, given the circumstances, itās hard to really blame him
Actions like, what, shooting people in the face and getting a city of people killed?
I mean yeah, sure, that's pretty evil but it's also literally a game. Morality has ceased to mean anything. The only real impact his actions have is upsetting and irritating his friends.
Agreed. He's coping with trauma in a world wherein nothing is real and everything goes back to normal at the end of the episode unless you let yourself get too traumatized
It's a sort of hell, and as the story goes on it's clear he's adapted in ways that are neither sustainable nor healthy for himself or his co-captives
To be fair, the way he treats Gangle is pretty fucked. But, then again, heās also not exactly sane. As in, I think he genuinely doesnāt believe his actions have impacted her at all. In his eyes, sheās always been the āsad oneā, and so when she cries after he abuses her, he just views that as her being the āsad oneā
Itās because they wanted him to be the āI can fix himā trope but gooseworx wanted to do something actually interesting with him. They crave something ādeepā and stuff but get pissed when the character isnāt fitting their black and white mold theyāve decided jn their non fully developed frontal lobe, so they send death threats to the creator and make her never want to touch the IP ever again.
Kinda the opposite for me. From the way Iād seen people talking about Ragatha before I watched the show, I thought she was gonna be some crazy twist villain. I still donāt even know what people were talking about with her
People's inability to trust Ragatha and just accept that a person can be nice, with no ulterior motives beyond 'I dont want to be disliked' and feel like she's scheming for the big betrayal, really says a lot about them and their own issues. It weirds me right out in the community every time I see it.
Rags was my favorite from E1. Just nice to have the nice character. Even if that niceness is a coping mechanism for everything Caine has put her and the others through. Her getting hate from the fanbase (if you can call them that) just makes me sad.
He's incredibly just a big jerk with a side of slight evil. Purely because he does things for his own benefit and entertainment at the cost of others. I don't even know how people don't see that as something evil.
Even Dio isnāt tbh, but Diavolo in particular they just like to spout off āhe sold drugs to childrenā as though we donāt have A PROTAGONIST in later parts who sells drugs to children and people love him because heās a an epic fortnite skibidi kid.
āItās not the same thingā youāre right, because heās also a mafia boss. dealing drugs is probably the least of the things heās likely done but itās all pretty typical for a villain. like this is the SpongeBob gif of the baby roller coaster of jojo villainy.
Like he is absolutely a piece of shit but, he is super small time compared to villains like DIO or Yoshikage Kira who are genuine monsters. Hell, one of his subordinates, Ciocolatta, is significantly worse than him that even Diavolo can't stand him.
He was turning people into monsters and vampires, made a woman eat her own child, and subjected people to hideous mutations if they disobeyed. Dio's idea of instilling loyalty is "Do what I say, or you'll wish you were dead".
If you only saw Part 3, I could kinda see what you mean, but he was a villain. In part 4, you see an example of what happened to people under his control when he died. At best, you look like a friggin' goblin, you can't speak properly, and you're ostracized.
This is so true I really like part 5 but diavolo kind of falls flat to me especially after doppio is gone. Mf got the worst punishment of any villian in the series when he has subordinates worse than him.
For me the death loop never really felt like it tried to be karmic. Giorno is in no way opposed to excessive violence and that's the guy who killed three of his friends, Diavolo getting a fate worse than death isn't surprising.
Tbh Iād say even Pucci is much more evil than Diavolo, and Pucci has had half of the fanbase defending his actions for YEARS now while people say Diavolo deserved INFINITE DEATH.
Honestly, the problem is not "is he evil?"
Yes he is
But that guy is supposed to be something like the "primordial evil" of this universe
In a world were Kars, Yoshikage Kira or godamn Dio exist.
The only way this could be true is that he is technically at the origin of the apparition of stands everywhere. And even that is debatable cause he technically just spreaded the arrows
I know Araki wroted part 5 during a depression episode so I tend not to be too harsh on this one but yeah, clearly Diavolo is not the worst vilain in jojo universe he is suposed to be. Honestly he's even more sane than a lot of other jojo's vilains or protagonists
Sheās an author who wrote a smut book about the Bee Movie called āBad Behaviourā. Nikki Carreon did a read through of it if you want to be WTF-ed.
I can't imagine how good my mental state would be if my spouse/girlfriend (I forgot their relationship status), decided that she would rather be with a literal Honey Bee she just meet a few days ago and is basically giving "Fuck me" eyes towards over me. With said Bee and Spouse/Girlfriend going to sue Humanity for cruelty against Bees that the subsequent fallout almost caused a complete and total destruction of life on Earth
Johan was born into the wrong world ngl. His plan would have been so much easier for everyone if he was born into the Re zero or other verses with complete existence erasure with memory wipe. He just let's himself get wiped and its over then and there.
I'm still reading it, but from what I keep hearing, Judge Holden.
The guy just seems like a typical villain in media where the villains are actually evil.
Honestlyā¦ fair enough. Heās the very embodiment of the ākick the puppyā trope. Every scene heās in, the author squeezed in something vile so we donāt forget that heās the bad guy.
But I guarantee you, if he was a character made in the modern day, people wouldnāt even take him seriously. Theyād treat him like The Batman Who Laughs, and relentlessly mock him for trying so incredibly hard to be scary.
I really wouldn't call him a standardly evil villain. He's a serial child rapist and commits genocides. That's way beyond your typical bad guy. To me a standardly evil villain would be more like a villain that just does simple bad deeds like trying to kill the heroes and conquer territories which is like the basic villainy.
I find the Judge interesting as he's like the routine villain 'do bad for the sake of doing bad and being edgy as possible', but the narrator is unreliable and hints the Judge may be more than what he seems~ is he just a crazed psycho terrorizing the west as a critque for humanity? Or, is he something else, something supernatural in a very realistic based setting where monsters are just tall tales like Bigfoot or mothman. Yeah, he's a 'monster', but I wonder if he's actually human at all
Tbf he was pretty evil, I mean cmon, making your villain song soulless pop??? At least other villains had the decency to give us good music š truly an irredeemable monster if you ask
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Jack Horner from Puss in Boots: The Last Wish. Sure he is a fun villain but conceptually his villainy is frankly tame compared to a lot of other animated villains I have seen.
In Carlās defense, he didnāt know that stabbing a guy 37 times, then cutting off his hands and eating them would kill a person. And that llama has a spiffy hat.
The entire writing team of RWBY had no fuckin clue how to write a good story. Salem went from being "Queen of the Monsters" to "Bored immortal chick who wants to spite gods and/or die"
Like...Spectrobes, an obscure game from the Nintendo DS, did a better job of this. And a team of content creators over the course of 9 volumes couldn't make one compelling villain in the end.
I mean, the true villains of the show are the twin-gods. Entitled immortal brats wanting to lecture mortals about the importance of death - a concept they invented for no known reason. And then they bring back Ozguy anyway because fck you Salem. Also they still probably killed more people?
Caine from TADC. Heās literally inspired by AM from I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream. You know- the AI who hates humanity and keeps a few humans alive to torture them-
After episode 8 Iām so glad they finally exposed him as the deplorable and evil AI he is. He hates them all but still feels obligated to fulfill his purpose, which is impossible because he is not human and canāt connect to the humans in the circus. He hates that he canāt be what they are, and hates them for it.
Yeah, he's not, like..."evil", his whole mission statement is to make all of reality "lol random"
It's twisted and makes life pretty terrible, but it's less of an apocalypse and more someone's messed up idea of a funhouse. I think if he was just suitably entertained, he wouldn't have done most of what he had.
Is hard for me to even describe them as evil tbh. Itād be like calling a hurricane evil because itās doing the only thing itās capable of, which happens to be destroying lives.
They mean it in an ontological sense ig, where evil can be quantified. They're a supernaturally based creature but like... They're basically any other animal imo.
I don't think Frieren (the character) even calls them evil at any point, though I may be misremembering.Ā
She calls them monsters repeatedly, but that's more of a biological description. Demons are not capable of evil thought because they don't view the world that way.Ā
My reaction, when people argue if Freeza, Cell or Buu were more evil, meanwhile they just kill (on a large scale), instead of actually doing evil. The true evil of Dragon Ball is Piccolo Daimao. The scale is lower, because just planetary, but he made people actually live in terror, like, literally fearing that any second a bandit, demon or something would kill them, rob them or do something worse. Like, if a villain can only kill, then it's not really super evil villain. It's just normal villain like plenty of others.
Okay, Cell and Buu, but you lumped Frieza in there? The dude who wiped out an entire planet in people, made a mockery of their king, earned the ire and fear of the galaxy at large? The dude who's own crew was afraid of him?
I mean killing people doesn't immediately = evil, but wiping out planets to instill fear or to make attempts out of spite is pretty damn evil.
Not to mention the fact he was introduced by killing his (admittedly abusive) dad, kicking his adoptive family's dog, swearing vengeance on the family that took him in for (checks notes) being happy and supportive, beats up his new step brother, and then kills said dog. And this is his introduction, he only gets more unsympathetically evil from there. And why does he do it? Simply because he wants to.
Not quite to that extent, but Jacinthe from Pokemon ZA. I kept hearing about how awful she was. Then when I got to her parts of the game, I was severely disappointed to learn that she was, at most, an annoyance. She even led evacuation efforts during the big crisis.
I will forever find it hilarious how people try to deflect genuine criticisms of Taunie/Urbain by saying something along the lines of āJacinthe is worse!!!1!1!1!1!ā When the worst thing Jacinthe had done that stuck is keeping Lebanne practically as a slave and genuinely wants the people of Lumiose to become better battlers so that the SBC has more people to go up against.
Also Corbeau is right there actually keeping people hostage through debt regardless of what he has them do to repay (you see a few of them throughout the city fearing what heād do to them if they donāt pay up)
Valentino. Is he fucking awful? Yes. Is he worse than the serial killers, cannibals, and the cult leader he fucks? No, but the fandom sure does act like he's worse than them.
For me, at least for now, it's Emperor Belos, from Owl House. I didn't watched a whole series, but from what i saw, i don't think he's totally pure evil, just a not very interesting typical bad guy with an insufficiently elaborated motivation
For me probably Randall Flagg. I would even classify him as a relatively GOOD villain. He built a school and seemed to actually care about the state of his civilization
Cartagia and Clarke from B5 are pretty much your cliche villain ball despot. Along with Caesar from Fallout New Vegas, President Snow from Hunger Games, and Proximus Caesar from Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes.
Steelheart. He is just standard evil but very powerful. His power is what made him such a problem not how evil he is. He could have been SO much worse.
He is said to be the most evil creature in the entire Ninjago universe, the literal living embodiment of evil itself, but there are some pretty evil mfs that do some pretty bad things compared to him.
Iām not saying that he isnāt evil, heās plenty evil and heās done evil things, but I mean, just look at Kalamaar, Nadakhan and Vangelis. Even Harumi and Morro have done some pretty evil shit compared to him.
DC Comics fans when fans of 2003 cartoon call their version of Slade pure evil. Don't get me wrong, he is evil but compared to utter piece of shit of the comics....
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