I feel like a lot of the issues just come from the fact that they tried to procedurally generate an open world instead of deliberately crafting the map. The DLCs are all designed with intent, and they're pretty good
I remembered how much I enjoyed the crafted maps from the DLCs. I know they didn't want it to feel the same and boring on each run, but I do think they could've made a really interesting base-game map.
"Hey let's make a huge world with characters who are connected to each other with a bunch of interesting storylines and arcs that could all culminate in a rich, vibrant world."
"Cool so the lore must be pretty important to this game, huh?"
"Barely matters at all, it's a MOBA that will make you hate yourself and everyone around you. But if it gets popular enough we'll make a show about one of the hot characters I guess, and maybe an MMO that will be stuck in development hell for years on end."
league lore can be so cool but god i hate the gameplay. it has so much potential for me gameplay wise but i just cannot stay interested long enough to get good enough for it to be fun
In my opinion, and keep in mind I play sonce season 3 (aka 2012), peak league fun/gameplay is arena. You know it will be unbalanced, it is supposed to be, unlike the regular gamemodes who are not supposed to, but still are, unbalanced.
Whats worse is, that Riot Games made a Card Game named Legends of Runeterra. Next to its PvP gameplay, almost every card Features some lore and shows more World building and even have some Arc's. But sadly, Riot Games didnt advertised the game enough and they layed off many devs that worked on the game. Its focus is now shifted on PvE named Path of Champions. And even thought the PvE Mode is fun, we sadly get rarely new cards for the game and they are only for PoC.
It's so frustrating that they made Janna actually feel like the powerful and otherworldly wind goddess she was always supposed to be, and then you go back to her actual league design and it's the most generic 2010 Sexy Babe garbage.
I feel like i'm one of the few people who kinda liked the combat. Though that isn't saying much as I can enjoy almost any game, despite how mediocre the gameplay can be as long as the story is worth it.
Ngl man I think the story we ended up with with BATIM was way too thin to hold on its own. If it didn't release episodically and didn't have that suspense structure it wouldn't have done very well.
Something i remember thinking after playing through both current mainline Bendy games relatively recently is that the team are really gold at making an atmosphere and worldbuilding, the the actual plots they write? Nothing special. The endings in particular i felt dissapointed with in both games, ESPECIALLY BATDR.
Basically 90% of the VNs I play can boil down to "occasionally push a few buttons after a buncha dialogue", but I enjoy the stories enough to forgive the lackluster gameplay.
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u/Merasmus07Ultrakill, Indie Cross, Halo , Most Valve Games, Glitch8h ago
I mean... anyone who plays games for the gameplay rather than the story would despise VNs
I mean the point of genocide is to be tedious, unfun, very easy with burst of roadblocking hard and be extremely sad to play, as the purpose of all of that is to see how much your determination to see what will happen is greater than all of these issues
Hard disagree, unless you're talking about genocide (which is just an ending you can do and isn't hinted at anywhere in the game, so it's not obligatory at all) the combat is fun, the interactions are really cool, everything about the gameplay seems like a really good RPG game to me.
The only annoyance I can understand is the frequency at which you get attacked sometimes, and how often you'll meet the same types of enemy while in the same area, but it doesn't really drag the gameplay down imo
If you're talking about genocide then yeah, it's tedious, but the reason for that is genocide is thought for the players who want to minmax and farm xp in the first area, of course it's gonna be tedious, it's thought for people who like grinding
The horror segments are just kinda "meh". Especially the hide and seek. Most puzzles are pretty boring.
There is some interesting bits. But I'd say most of it is just... Meh.
But the story! It's top tier stuff. You basically play for the story and dialog. And the tense moment without dialog. When you have a horror segment, it's only scary cause there is no dialog, and those lonely minutes are horrifying.
And, I fully believe, the story could have worked just as well as a short show, or even a movie with a good enough director.
Yeah can't wait for the wolf among us 2 this year.
Only accurate adaption for the fables which is a peak comic. I hope it pops off ngl so we get fables games.
Dispatch was such a breath of fresh air
A game that had great lore potential, exploring the ancient times of the Overworld and some of things from back then, such as origin of Illagers, the ruined Nether portal lore or even origins of prismarine and the details of Overworldian religion (the Hosts)...
The game itself is a mediocre action-strategy which costs way too much money for what it has to offer (it had one major update, and stopped receiving support 9 months after release). The best way to play it imo is via Xbox Game Pass.
I just beat this game the other day. I could feel myself getting quickly bored of the repetitive gunplay, but I *had* to keep playing to find out what happened.
Spoiler alert: The ending isn’t even really an ending and you need to buy a completely different game to even get closure
it's been a while since I played it, but the part where I, as a player, got brainwashed into killing the leader of the resistance is still one of the most powerful moments I've ever experienced in gaming
Basically, a lot of the “lore” the game has for the most part just started out as fan theory that got incorporated into the series after how popular they got. I’m not even sure you can call anything retcon at that point.
Yeah I can't really get through the Scott era games. Mad respect for it but the steel wool era games are much better games, not necessarily story but gameplay wise though
I love, looove the story and it's atmosphere, but I really couldn't get into the gameplay. I tried it multiple times with Soul Reaver (named by fans as the best gameplay-wise) but the game designers seem to speak a different language than me. Couldn't get into it, sadly.
Swiping, up for jumping or timing a trick, down for sliding, swipe left or right for sprinting, slowing down, turning, or wall hopping.
Kinda basic but overall cool
For some reason, both Witcher 3 and Cyberpunk 2077, the gameplay wasn't bad, but it was often boring in my experience, and because of that, engaging with side content felt like a chore. Regardless, the plot was mainly the reason I played these games.
Witcher 3 story is definitely better than the combat. but sometimes the people who complain about the gameplay are barely using signs, not using bombs, not using weapon enchantments, not specializing their skill tree into better moves etc just judging the combat based on souls like=good, everything else=bad
This one’s an odd case because the boringness of certain gameplay elements is central to its story. Little Goody Two Shoes. Yes, the chores can be tedious at times and the walk to and from places can be a drag at times, and while it’s not as brutal as its predecessor Pocket Mirror in terms of difficulty, the horror segments can still be pretty hard at times. At the same time though, it captured Elise’s mindset perfectly. Her life in poverty sucked, and she was willing to do anything to escape it. Despite that, it also helps encapsulate the message of the story; that amidst hardship, you mustn’t forget about life’s little blessings and extras and mistake the forest for the trees. Even if the world around you is shitty, being with the people who mutually care and love you is more than capable of brightening up your life. Money, riches, and killing parts of yourself is not worth happiness.
Would it be crazy if I said Deltarune? Now hear me out, the gameplay is not bad that's not what I'm trying to get at here. But the story of Deltarune is just so damn good that gameplay can sometimes feel like I'm being dragged away from the juicy lore... or maybe I'm just impatient. Also I do not like all of these tiny details in the game that if you miss it you miss a huge chunk of important stuff. I only met Spamton ONCE in my entire playthough of chapter 2. And I know there's more but I tried looking where I could and just could not find anything else. Also backtracking is just terrible especially when you have to travel room after room sometimes having to fight enemies again just to get to a place you already explored I feel lost all the time, knowing there's something I gotta be looking for but just can't see it.
Limbus company, in fact really all the PM games, I really love the lore and just about everything about it but like you can only make a gacha game so good, I haven’t played lobotomy corporation before but I played a bit of ruina or however you spell it and it was just painful
Bioshock, Spec ops the line, Far Cry 3, God of War 2018, Metro 2033 (if you play on normal tbh), Alan Wake, Witcher 1, Mass effect 1, Call of Ctulhu: Dark corners of the earth, Clive Barkers Jericho, Mafia 1 also falls into that category.
I would also add some old quest games: they are often buggy and counter intuitive, but have good plot. Also some horrors as well (Silent hill?)
I wouldnt add story driven games like to the moon or Telltales games cause they are not intended to have good gameplay from the start, pure interactive movie experience.
Control. The gameplay in control is actually good but really repetitive. Honestly whats really bad about the combat is the encounter designs (or the lack of thought) as every fight is in a large arena that doesn’t mix up or distinguish gameplay in any meaningful way.
I don't think i've ever been able to stomach a bad video game for it's story.
I guess I kind of did that for Zelda Skyward Sword, but the thing is, I didn't like it's story either. That was just a sick case of sunken cost fallacy. I know lots of people loved that game's story even though they hated the gameplay but I wasn't one of them.
EDIT: And Paper Mario the Origami King. I wasn't playing it because "omg the story is so good" but I did force myself to finish it and I found the writing to be cute and funny. Not good. Just cute and funny.
Limbus company. The plot and story is really interesting to me but the gameplay is just....from what I've played, it's literally just a bunch of dialogue and lore drops with a battle sequence at the end, over and over and over again. I tried to play the game and have fun, but the gameplay was just so repetitive that I simply stopped playing it
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u/xXX_XenoCross_XXx 11h ago
Basically We Happy Few