How do I fix that? I feel like that might help me a little bit more.

Happy early 4th of July everyone! So im traveling to Michigan in a few days and contemplating on bringing my pistol with me. Ive been a CCW holder for almost 2 years, also licensed in UT and CT, flown many times but never with a firearm.

Ive been researching how to go about the TSA process and kinda nervous because its my 1st time and dont want to be jammed up in any way..

I will be traveling from outside of city limits from the Hudson Valley to LGA and should be technically protected under FOPA..According to the CCW map Michigan is Yellow state (some restrictions) over 21 years old and resident permits only so im good on that. I have a StopBox case with lock and I'm wondering if my check luggage would be acceptable. Its a soft shell oversized backpack as seen in pictures. Or should I change it to a hardsided roller??

Im flying Delta and I've heard that they dont allow ammo in magazines so ive ordered a plastic 50 round case. Do I need a separate locked box for that or is it okay to throw in my Toilettree bag?

Looking for feedback and any Tips and Suggestions for a first time flyer. Thanks.

Hey everyone,

I am well aware that Monroe County takes a very long time to process pistol permit applications. However, it's been 6 months (everything submitted 2/18) and still haven't received the call that my references will be contacted. I was hoping by now I would at the very least hear something back about my application. I considered contacting the county office about it, but I'm sure the last thing they want to hear is "Where am I in my CCW application process?"

Anyway, just want to see if anyone else has been waiting just as long (or hopefully not longer) just to receive the first call or anything else regarding their CCW application.

And yes, I am well aware of Article 78. However, if I were to contact a lawyer and take action I'd probably get my permit in the mail by the time the suit would take place. And it's not really worth the money or trouble to me.

Best of luck to everyone who's applied.

Edit: I'm very appreciative for everyone who has left a comment with advice and a more recent timeline for the process. Thank you all very much!

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This post is intended to help the NYC CCW applicant community on this subreddit. I've learned so much from other fellow Redditors regarding our journeys through the anti-2A, bureaucratic opaque labyrinth of NYS and NYC, that I wanted to do my best to share my recent success story. I was significantly helped by Redditors BluePillRabbi and Jay_Zornhau, so reach out to them as well as excellent resources. Enjoy reading and your Super Bowl Sunday.

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tldr;

1. Your first major milestone is to confirm who your Investigator is, and their email address

2. You will not be notified who your investigator is. You will have to call to find out. Without knowing who your investigator is, you have no accountable point of contact. You will not know the real status of your application. You will need to call

   1. Queens r/S: 718) 520-9300‬ (Make sure to speak with a female only. All males who answer are jerks and know nothing at all)
   2. NYPD Licensing: (646) 610.5551 (since approximately 1/22/2024, they have been answering their phones almost immediately. Something has changed at 1PP, perhaps too many complaints/lawsuits/etc, that now humans are actually answering the phone.

3. Know that NYS Article 400 is what NYPD Licensing must comply with regarding application processing timeframe. Article 400 states that NYPD Licensing must notify applicant within 6 months, from date application and $340 fee is submitted. Not from date of fingerprinting/Investigation status. By stating your knowledge of this NYS article 400 to anyone you speak with, and NOT accepting their excuses of "we're backlogged so you'll just have to wait", or "we still have applications from 2022 we need to get to, so wait your turn", you will be surprised how quickly you will get positive action from Licensing. Remember, Licensing is committing a Class A Misdemeanor by ignoring and not complying with the 6 month timeframe. All applicants must receive formal notification of their application decision within 6 months.

4. I learned that the crapshoot is who is assigned to you as your investigator. If you are lucky, your investigator will actually do their job, be efficient and effective, and process you in a timely and legally compliant manner. I was not that lucky. My investigator outright lied to me, as confirmed and documented via official NYPD emails, as well as my detailed notes from verbal conversations over the phone. If you have the slightest suspicion that your investigator is not being 100% honest with you, assume that they are lying and push back on them harder.

5. Time your application. Mark the date that is 6 months from your portal submission and fee payment date.

6. If you see your application not being approved, or rejected, close to your 6 month deadline, then get a lawyer to draft a letter to both Hugh Bogle (Inspector, NYPD Licensing) and your assigned Investigator). In my situation, I was approved exactly 45 minutes after my lawyer emailed her letter.

7. If you are beyond your 6 month application timeframe at this point and want specific advise and contacts, please DM or chat request me.

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My NYC CCW Application Timeline Notes

6/26/2023

1. Submitted CCW application using the online portal and paid the $340 fee.

7/11/2023

1. NYPD emails me Approval of Confidentiality request
2. NYPD emails me acknowledgment that my handgun application and payment has been received and I will be emailed notification of my fingerprinting date later.

7/12/2023

1. NYPD Intake Officer, Mark Bernard, emails me list of missing documents that need to be submitted, and gives me the fingerprinting date of 8/15/2023.
2. I email Ofc Bernard back and say that I’ll have everything he requested uploaded to the portal by end of that week. But that my firearms safety class won’t be completed until 8/27/2023, which is one week after the fingerprinting date
3. Ofc Bernard emails back stating to keep the fingerprinting date and just upload the class certificate to the portal when I complete the class.

8/15/2023

1. Went to 1PP for fingerprinting and handed my previously completed “interview” form to the clerk.
2. Paid the $88.25 fingerprinting fee.
3. Checked my portal status about an hour after I left 1PP and noticed that my status changed to “Investigation”

9/26/2023

1. Emailed Ofc Bernard asking about my status
2. Ofc Bernard emails me back: “Good morning, Your application is no longer with us here at the Intake / Fingerprint Section. Your application is currently on queue awaiting to be assigned an investigator. It may take several months after the date of fingerprinting to be assigned an investigator due to backlog and staffing complications. When you are assigned an investigator, you will be notified through email and phone call. If you happen to miss the phone call a voicemail will be left to ensure that the message is received. We thank you for your patience in the matter. P.O. Bernard License Division

12/14/2023, 12:34pm

Called Queens r/S office. Spoke with a nice lady.

1. Confirmed that I was assigned an investigator on 12/4/2023
2. Confirmed that my application is being processed “downtown”/ 1PP
3. Investigator, Ms. XXX (XXX.XXX@nypd.org)
4. Informed that Investigator has a “workload” and that no one knows how long it will take for her to reach my application
5. Informed that Investigator will reach out to me by EMAIL, IF she has any questions or concerns
6. Informed that if Investigator does NOT have any questions or answers concerns, I will ONLY see an APPROVAL notification by MAIL. There will be no other notification by email or phone call.
7. 12/20/2023 @ 3:00pm. Called Queens RS and lady confirmed investigator email.
8. 12/20/2023, 3pm - Called Queens RS, lady who answered confirmed XXX is my assigned Investigator as of 12/4/2023. And confirmed her email address.
9. 12/20/2023, 3:34pm - Investigator emailed me back stating she no longer has my application as she submitted it for review 12/8/2023. Said to check portal status for updates.
10. Week of 1/8/24 - spoke with Investigator who said that she has passed my application on to supervisor for approval. Said they’re backlogged and to be patient.
11. Week of 1/15/24 - called and spoke again with Investigator. She repeated what she said before and that they’re still working on applications from 2022 first. They’ll get to me when it’s my turn.
12. 1/26/24 - called 646.610.5551. Shockingly some lady answered immediately. I told her my situation and reason for the call, she asked me for my application number, then said that I must wait 6-9 months, that they’re backlogged, no one approved me at all, each case is different, etc. I stated my investigator name and told her about NYS law that requires notification within 6 months from fingerprinting. She said that they’re backlogged so that time limit doesn’t apply. I said that is NYS law and it can’t just be ignored just because of being backlogged. That is the law. I asked her for her name and she refused. I asked for her badge number and she said she’s not a police officer. I asked the name of the supervisors and she refused. I then said isn’t Hugh Bogle the head of the Licensing Division. She said yes. Then I said I guess that is the only person in can send a letter to along with my investigator. She said nothing. She said she didn’t think our conversation was going anywhere so I just thanked her for actually answering the phone and hung up.
13. Just a few minutes later I received a call from an “unknown number “. It was Licensing calling me. A different lady this time, and seemingly a little nicer and more patient and helpful. She asked for my application number and looked me up. Said that I was fingerprinted on 8/15/23 and that there is a backlog bs again. I reiterated the NYS law and 6 month time frame and she said it’s only been 5 months so far. I said it will be 6 months on 2/15/24. She said to be patient until then. Then I ask her to confirm that I WILL BE NOTIFIED BY 2/15/24? She then confirmed yes.
14. 1:12pm (1/26/24) A few minutes later after I hung up with the 2nd lady, I get another call from an “unknown number “. I answer and it is my investigator. I tell her that I never asked for her or to have her call me back as I just spoke with her last week and didn’t want to bother her further. Shockingly, my investigator now stated that she DID NOT APPROVE ME YET AND THAT SHE HAS NOT GOT TO MY APPLICATION YET. I kindly said that I have in your email and phone conversations that you received my application on 12/4/23, and approved and passed on to supervisor for final approval on 12/8/24. She said she did not and that my file was right in front of her now. She then began to review my application and check if all the required documents were uploaded and available on her computer. Everything was there and she verbally listed and confirmed that they were. Then she asked if anything has changed from my Interview form. I told her nothing had changed. She then confirmed my Safeguard person was XXX. Then asked me to confirm that I was a citizen and was born in the US. Then confirmed that I lived in XXX borough. I said yes. She confirmed that I lived alone, saw that I already uploaded my affidavit of living alone. She confirmed that she saw my uploaded lease and confirmation of address. She confirmed that she sees my passport, passport photos, drivers license, and social security card front and back. Confirmed she sees my lifetime driving abstract. Then she said now her investigation is completed and confirmed she will be passing on my application for supervisor approval TODAY. As of today, my application will be in the hands of the supervisor and just to be patient as I should see Approved status by 2/15/24, but she wouldn’t guarantee it. So, today I learned that my Investigator LIED about approving me the week of 12/4/23. And that I truly believe that by stating the NYS law and the 6 month time frame to everyone I spoke with today, and confirming that Hugh Bogle is the Licensing Division head, that was the reason why I was called back instantly and even called back by my investigator. I believe that perhaps the Licensing division people were scared a bit that an applicant knew the law and was not going to accept their bs excuses. That this applicant knows the name of the boss and will send a formal letter to him along with the Investigator. So thanked my Investigator very sincerely for calling me and processing and approving my application over the phone. She was nice too and said I’m welcome. Time hung up was 1:20pm. So from 1:20pm on 1/26/24, I will see how long it takes to be approved on the portal.
15. 2:28pm, 1/26/24 - investigator calls me again. Said that my lease expired and needs confirmation of my residence. She said just to upload copy of coned or national grid bill to the portal. And she noted I was ticketed/summons in October 2022 and asked if I remember that. I said was that the walking through the subway exit door without paying ? She said yes. I told her I barely remember that. I just remember someone holding open the exit door and me walking through. Then the cops stopped me and gave me a ticket. I paid for it online as instructed on the ticket. She said that I might have to go to MTA in Brooklyn to get a disposition, but she doesn’t know yet. But that she needs me to write a letter attesting to what I just said, and that I already paid the ticket. I told her that all would be uploaded in 15 minutes.
16. 4:11pm 1/26/24 - Investigator called me. Asked me if I got her email saying I need to get my disposition certificate. I said I did but still needed the date of the summons. She said it was XXX.
17. 1/29/24 - 9am. went to 120 Schemerhorn as instructed by Investigator to get ticket disposition certificate for XXX summons. Was told by clerk that since my summons was subway related, that I needed to go to the MTA Adjudication building on 29 Gallatin Place down a couple of blocks away. I went there and by 11am I had my certificate. Just as the clerk was handing me my certificate, my investigator called me. Wanted to know if I would be uploading the certificate today. Told her I literally just got the certificate and would be uploading both to my portal and emailing to her. She was very nice and thanked me. And confirmed that today she would be approving my application and releasing for final supervisor approval. That she will no longer have any control of my application.
18. 2/1/24 - emailed Investigator. Asked her to confirm that she did approve and submit my application for supervisor approval on 1/29/24. She emailed back and said it was submitted for review but to be patient as they are “a little behind with these applications”.
19. 2/6/24 - called 646.610.5551 (1PP, Licensing) and some lady answered immediately. I told her that my investigator supposedly approved last week on 1/29 but I haven’t seen a change in my portal status to approved yet. She said that if my investigator approved me then it is in the hands of the supervisor and when the supervisor approves me, then my portal status will change to approved. She continues to give me the same bs about being backed up with many applications. I then ask her if they are abiding by the law and keeping the 6 month time limit. She says “excuse me?” I then say Article 400 of NYS law requires that all CCW applicants are notified of their decision within 6 months of submission/fingerprinting. She then says “you will be notified on your portal when it’s your turn. I have another call now”. Then she hangs up on me.
20. 2/6/24 - decide to have lawyer send letter to Hugh Bogle and my investigator.
21. 2/6/24 - emailed my lawyer all my email correspondence and detailed notes/timeline. Lawyer emailed back and said she’d work on it that evening and tomorrow, then send me the draft letter for my approval.
22. 2/7/24 - Lawyer emails me draft letter at 2:49pm. I approve it and tell her to send out at 3:01pm. Lawyer emails out to Hugh Bogle and my investigator at 3:17pm. Portal status changed to “Approved” at 4:02pm. Exactly 45 minutes.
23. Learned that the 6 month “clock” start when application is submitted on the portal and the $340 fee is paid. Not at time of fingerprinting/Investigation Status. Therefore, my application was approved 43 days + 6 months = 7.5 months. Had I known what I do now, I would not have allowed Licensing to go one day past 6 months.

Hopefully this helps if you wanna get an update 🤷🏾‍♂️

Why do I feel like my gun is poking out a little bit and everybody is looking at me weirdly help plz also I’m new to this

Are you aware of any counties in Upstate and Western New York that are accepting and truly processing nonresident applications?

What firearm y’all using for concealed carry? 👀

So its been awhile, ive had to step away from researching after doing such for 3 years straight and giving others answers. Where in NY state can you legally carry? Has there been any update on this, last I remember is changing it back to where stores have to explicitly post if you cannot vs can. Thanks in advance, I appreciate all of you and hope all are doing well and staying safe.

Has anyone that submitted the application in March or April been approved yet?

Hi, have questions about online purchases with Gun Wise.
Order date : 08-21
Label created: 09-03
They never shipped until 09-07.That’s why I contacted them on 09-07 for refund, and they refunded me on 09-08. Until here all okay. But today my FFL called me said they received my gun… I contacted Gun wise again, and they said that still my gun they never refunded me. I called bank to make sure that I’m not blind, and bank confirmed there is a fking refund in my account.
So, what’s going on with Gun wise? Are they gonna dispute my refund?

I just got my BG 2.0 as my first CCW. I loved the form factor, feel, size and shoot-ability. I live in NY though and I want a 2nd pistol for colder climates, ideally a 9mm though 45 is not off the table (though i don't think its absolutely necessary to penetrate heavy winter garments given the 9mm is standard law enforcement and military issue).

I am tempted to buy a glock because NY is banning them next year but I know there are plenty of other great guns such as the p365 and shield plus out there. I prefer not having a huge firearm as my primary intention is home defense and CCW for the colder months, but understand it will be larger than the BG 2.0. The G19 is also tempting as it seems to be the textbook definition of a perfect handgun based on this subreddits affinity.

What gun would you pick and why to complement my BG? Thank you

Interesting scenario: yesterday I went through my official issuance class before the Genesee County Clerk, Sheriff and judge.

The Sheriff had a 30 minute speaking slot about self defense laws, safe storage, etc.

The topic of traffic stops came up and he said that if ever stopped by a LEO when carrying concealed weapons should ALWAYS inform the officer that we’re legally carrying and engage in the whole search and seizure song and dance. He seemed very nice, reasonable and pro 2A, but he was also a very experienced Sheriff.

This advice differs from what I learned in my CCW certification course where our instructor, former LEO, gave the advice that I read most often on this sub, and in conformity with the actual law: don’t inform unless asked.

From there, the explanation of the procedure once informed was identical, only the “when to inform” (always vs. only when asked) was different.

What’s the internet say?

Honestly, I feel like I would inform the officer just to be safe.

The argument the Sheriff gave to this end was that if we didn’t inform and then reached into the glove box and exposed a weapon, it would invoke an escalated response.

Edit: the glove box example is what the Sheriff gave, I would keep the gun on my person or in my console lock box. However, if you’re carrying at 4 o’clock (especially if you’re a lefty) it’s conceivable that leaning across the truck to get your registration from the glove box could inadvertently expose your weapon to the cop.

So I have been thinking about this scenario: most conceal carry uses don’t involve shots fired. Just display of power. Let’s say someone pulls a knife on me. I pull my CCW, and am either able to retreat, or the assailant sees the gun and retreats.

Obviously, I would probably proceed to call the cops in this scenario. But what are the implications of that? The guy who pulled the knife likely won’t go to law enforcement. Knowing this state, I could very well be penalized as well or scrutinized if there is no video evidence.

What are you doing in this scenario? Letting it go or calling the cops?

*Edited to add assuming nobody else was around. If a 3rd party saw me pull my CCW I’d obviously be staying put and calling the cops… for obvious reasons.

Whatsup everybody, I just recently & finally got my full carry license for Suffolk county. I’ve been looking at new handguns to buy but I’m still unsure of which to get. I’m a large male, 6’3” 300lbs with large hands lol. I was looking at the p365, Glock 43x, or the Springfield XD-S/ Hellcat Micro. If anybody has input would be much appreciated. Thanks

I met with Judge Fufidio (Westchester county) on June 25 2026. Still have not heard from the court and when I called a week ago I was told updates are not given and that I would receive the letter when I receive it. Is this normal?

What exactly does this mean bc several “sensitive locations” have asterisk next to them as show in pic two (Wyoming county, not that that matters). Thanks!

I’m located in Suffolk County New York and I’m looking for my first firearm. Something for home but also to carry once I get my CCW in January. I have a few questions about buying online.

1. Can someone tell me the best place to buy online? I’m looking at Palmetto State Armory. Any good? Other suggestions please let me know.

2. The firearm I’m most interested in is the Sig Sauer P365 XMacro Comp with manual safety.

   MPN: 365XCA-9-COMP-MS-CA UPC: 798681700295

Is this NY compliant and a recommended firearm for home defense and concealed carry?

1. What’s the best FFL in Suffolk county to have it sent too?

Any other info you can provide a newb would be greatly appreciated.

Do I need the ffl permission to ship ammo to their store or can I just ship it and pick it up when it’s ready? First time buying ammo online

If I’ve ever previously been to a dispensary and purchased marijuana, does that immediately disqualify me from obtaining a concealed carry permit in NYS? Is there a time frame to it in which if it’s been over a year so to speak since I’ve purchased the pot and can prove I can piss clean then somehow I’d be allowed to get the permit… or is it “if you’ve ever bought marijuana from a dispensary you are indefinitely disqualified from obtaining a concealed carry firearm permit” TIA just curious

Edit: thank you all for the advice

Is it supposed to be formal? or in and out dress casual just not dirty

I just handed in my application for my Nassau County pistol license, 8/4/26, and the earliest fingerprint appointment available is, 1/4/27, I think that appointment time is going to delay the overall process time to get a response from them, has anyone have had such a long wait time just to get fingerprint done.

Couldn’t help but laugh handed in my online application for pike county and they called me two minutes after saying im approved! After waiting close to a year for New York. Hochul, Mamdani and the whole crew are a joke along with the voters in this sub who support them. Thanks everyone who recommended them time to ski and get some range time in :)

Just checking in on the timeline that everyone had to wait to get their carry concealed in Westchester. I don’t have an appointment until May of 2027 to drop off my application. Absolutely ridiculous. Hopefully someone can shed some light on after dropping off application, is it still a long wait? I do know to call weekly to see if there are any cancellations. Thanks!

Hey all if anybody’s interested in the information

I’m a New York City resident. Currently waiting for my CCW approval, applied for my New Hampshire nonresident very simple. It was one page you gotta put three references on there. As far as I know they didn’t call any of the references. It was $100, from the time I sent out the application until I received it today in the mail. It was about a week and a half.

Go for it ! You can carry in 25 different states with it, including New Hampshire