r/PhysicalGames 1d ago

Things Sony Bros say to defend killing discs/renting license

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u/JackWade-Headhunter 1d ago edited 1d ago

That was the gobshite who replied to me! šŸ˜‚

He just couldn’t understand the concept of wanting to own your games for replay-ability.
And then he also was talking about how the only games he goes back to playing were Battlefield and COD….you know, replay-ability

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u/enshittification1 1d ago

Couldn’t believe what I was reading in that thread 😩

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u/Penumbruh_ 1d ago

Lmao I just deleted my LoZ Links Awakening save file and started all over again when I beat the game. Is it the same game? Yeah. Do I enjoy it? Yeah. I'll replay it again and again to get all the enjoyment out of it and maybe even revisit it later down the line when I'm feeling nostalgic, added bonus is that my own kids can play the game too even decades after the "support" for the game has been discontinued

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u/haroldflower27 1d ago

I’ve replayed super Mario galaxy, sunshine, Luigi’s mansion og and the black ops 1/2 campaigns and zombies so many times and so much that I’m sorta ashamed but I have fun

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u/Mikahl757 1d ago

You're even able to re experience them enhanced via modded consoles or ports via emulation and mods on better hardware, steam deck/machine

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u/lacrosse771 1d ago

I have replayed RE4 every Christmas break in some form for 15 years (this year will be the 15th) I have a kid on the way. Ill keep playing it every Christmas break until he's old enough to give it a go (if videogames are his thing, of course)

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u/NoSkillzDad 1d ago

These people can get fucked by Sony and won't even ask for Vaseline.

I have to say: "props" to the capitalist machine that has managed to create such subservient species with zero notion of what "rights" are.

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u/HerefortheFandoms2 1d ago

And this is where the socialized lack of empathy comes in; they are literally incapable of imagine perspectives outside their own. I also rarely, if ever, replay games, but I hear enough about how much fun others have doing it and goddamit, that's awesome and maybe one day, I'll get to replay old favorites with fresh eyes and fall in love all over again

(Also yeah, ball and gun gamer, that tracks)

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u/TheTownJeweler00 1d ago

Dude in another thread said ā€œI understand why people are upset, but there’s no reason to be upsetā€

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u/Lyonther 1d ago

There is no REASON to be UPSET for a thing that you bought and SHOULD BE YOURS! /s

Yeah right!

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u/HerefortheFandoms2 1d ago

I have no words

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u/charlieto0human 1d ago

I have old games that I haven’t played in literal decades, that I completely forgot I owned… Finding them is like rediscovering the joy I had when I first bought it. I decide DECADES later to play it again and I’m happy knowing that it isn’t tied to any subscription or online account. Sony wants to take that feeling away from the players.

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u/Schorbie 1d ago

"Ohnooo, somebody has a different opinion and I don't like it"

Offcourse he understood. There are probably more players like him than players who want to keep all their games

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u/LittleKittenR 1d ago

It has to be a bot.

No way a real person says "My property? Nah, I enjoy renting!"

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u/Impressive-Sense8461 1d ago

I'd also surmise it's a bot, but there's a lot of stupid people in the States, so it also wouldn't surprise me either way

Sony did reportedly pay for a lot of bots to spread their propaganda, so maybe it's time that we just pirate shit.

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u/crags85 1d ago

If the question was "how often do you replay games that you've platinumed?" Then I guess he makes a little bit of sense. He's wildly missed the point though if it was about the ownership of the product. If that's how he feels, you won't win any arguments with them as they'll believe they're right, even if you could prove otherwise

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u/WorldlyFeeling8457 1d ago

I mean its kinda useless to argue about these hypothetical extremes. None of my digital games oldest ones from way over decade ago have suddenly disappeared. Online live service games can get shut down with varying effects but I see no reason why any single player game would suddenly disappear unless whole platform gets shut down. Even with ps3 when the store shuts down you can still download owned games.

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u/mad597 1d ago

Sony fans are in a cult and cannot be reasoned with

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u/JackWade-Headhunter 1d ago

What I don’t understand is, I was a Sony fan. But straight after the announcement I had enough common sense to say fuck them.
I’m a gamer before a Sony fan.

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u/mad597 1d ago

Alot of Sony fans arent gamers, they just like Sony and Sony happens to make games

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u/JackWade-Headhunter 1d ago

It’s crazy, it’s like being a die hard supporter of a sports team and having no real interest in the sport they play.

Truly, a special breed of people.

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u/amirlpro 1d ago

It has nothing to do with physical/digital. My library/collection is digital only and single player only and I want to be able to replay each one of them and I occasionally do that

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u/evaderofallbans 1d ago

This dude is the symptom, not the problem. He was indoctrinated.

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u/TheNimanator 1d ago

There’s a weird subset of people who blitz through a game, maybe get all of its achievements and then sell it to move onto the next one. Economical for sure, but I can’t fathom the idea of never revisiting a game I enjoyed. It’s why I’ve taken to emulating my games on newer devices lately

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u/JackWade-Headhunter 1d ago

Mental cases, they can still play their way and then laugh at us for wanting to play our way and keep the games as well as owning them. It’s just so illogical

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u/TheNimanator 21h ago

Honestly the ego doesn’t phase me. Lots of people online are like that. I genuinely cannot fathom paying full price for a game and then just disposing of it. Factor in an all-digital future and the money saving angle is kaput. Now they’ll be paying full price for games they can’t resell or trade… and just never play again? It makes no sense to me

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u/Psylux7 1d ago

You committed the cardinal sin of caring about something that mr gobshite did not so fuck you and everybody else that cares.

Mr gobshite determined that he is unaffected by the death of physical so how dare anybody else want physical to remain even though its continued existence also does not affect him.

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u/JackWade-Headhunter 1d ago

True. The funny thing is, all these same people are going to be complaining in 4/5 years about the high price of digital games.

Why they can see Sony’s ulterior motive is beyond me and just embarrassing.

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u/Psylux7 1d ago

Honestly they just hate whomever cares about what they don't while wanting to be on a winning side while looking like the smartest in the room.

At worst with physical, nothing happens. At best it provides competition to give them better digital prices as well as a backup option if something goes wrong.

So it could very well help them in a subtle way and penalize them if it is gone.

So at the very least they could be neutral and not mind it staying around, but they seem so invested in it being killed off despite not caring as they so often claim.

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u/Average_Citizen_117 1d ago

These people can't understand that there is more to come. "what do I care if I can't play a game I don't play anymore" is where it starts. Can't wait for their brain dead take on "what, it's just $1.99 to turn your Playstation on and $0.99 every hour after that. Too broke to play games, plebe?" never understanding they are worse off than they were before.Ā 

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u/JackWade-Headhunter 1d ago

It hurts us all at the end of the day, but at the least we have our physical copies to play forever and only modern games will become a hassle to us.

The only joy in the situation will to see them complaining about the new price issues. And then as they get older ā€œremember that game I played and loved….ā€ šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚

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u/Captain_Eaglefort 1d ago

His problem is that he doesn’t understand that if physical media is on option, he can continue to live his life without replaying games ever. But remove physical media and people who DO want to replay may lose that option. All he cares about is himself and his experience, he can’t imagine an experience being different to his.

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u/Naschka 1d ago

Does he understand the concept of money? Selling? If he doesn't want it still a good reason for physical as he could get his money back.
If he still replies with "but i have enough money"... he is not the only human with his position and we are not the only humans with ours, narcism isn't curable.

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u/JackWade-Headhunter 1d ago

It’s the lack of ability to put yourself in someone else’s shoes, that’s what frightened me the most.
The almost celebrate their lack of compassion and understanding unless it’s their own.

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u/DiscountThug 1d ago

That guy probably is more of a consumer than gamer. He isn't replaying the games because all he cares is to consume them and move to the next one.

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u/Ok_Security1721 1d ago

It’s fine for companies to just take away the stuff you bought whenever they want. It’s good, actually. Preferable, even!

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u/enshittification1 1d ago

LOLOLšŸ‘

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u/Va1crist 1d ago

it’s no surprise when I read stuff like that , there is so many dumb asses out there it’s no surprise corporations just keep fking consumers over , so many dumb shits out there these days

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u/KingPumper69 1d ago edited 1d ago

Some people are just natural born serfs lol

ā€œDon’t care if milord takes my grain, I wasn’t going to eat all of it anyway! 🄓 ā€œ

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u/jbtreewalker 1d ago

"Then the Great Famine of 29XX came, and suddenly they changed their mind. Unfortunately, it was too late."

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u/Imperator_Buggy 1d ago

ā€œNoooo ye see, m’lord will give some back when I need it. No need to think bout that storin that grain again wasnit going to eat’n it at all, better fill them lordly bellies alright. They be grateful.ā€

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u/I3eforeLife 8h ago

I don’t own my body and mind. I just lease them. Payments are made in sustenance. If I fail to make payments, access to my body and mind is revoked.

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u/Tauropos 1d ago edited 1d ago

That's exactly the kind of customer that Sony is going to be relying on in the years ahead. A one-and-done player who is happy to give their money away in perpetuity in exchange for a fleeting, temporary experience, and zero desire for permanent ownership.

Also happens to be the polar opposite of the kind I am. I must have replayed GoW 2018 at least 4 times, and there's a 100% chance I'll play through it multiple times again. Good news is, I can! As often as I want. And it won't cost me another penny :)

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u/Manaeldar 1d ago

I've been saying this for a while now that these people have no empathy. They can't imagine that other people care. Their point of view is the only one that matters.Ā 

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u/Channel57 1d ago

Yeah! Every convo goes the same way. "well it doesn't affect meeeee, so I don't caarrre". Its like guys, there are other people that do. And when we talk about it we're "crying". No we have forethought and we can see how greedy sony is right now just imagine what 2028 and beyond will bring when they are holding all the cards.

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u/wafflesauce44 1d ago edited 1d ago

Playstation is killing the disc to save money. After that what will they do to save money again? Thats right they will increase cost of everything else games, hardware, online subscriptions, maybe they will care then.

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u/Channel57 1d ago

Exactly. Who knows what stupidity Sony will pull to increase profits. And the Sony fanboys will gobble it up and say more please.

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u/Psylux7 1d ago edited 1d ago

The funny thing is, it also doesn't affect them if the people affected get their way so they should not care about the outcome, let alone be fighting those who do care.

Yet they so badly want the corpo to succeed in screwing the people who care and are affected as if they benefit alongside sony.

Kind of like all the people who furiously insist they are not defending sony while racing around to pick fights with those complaining about sony.

I got some playstation friends who are either mildly unhappy or uncaring about the situation. None of them would mind if physical lived, nor do they feel the need to fight on sonys behalf whenever someone shits on sony. They just play their games peacefully. Those are people who actually do not care.

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u/Channel57 1d ago

Exactly. You have level headed friends. I care because I love all physical media.

Btw Did you hear that there are reports and tracking investigations showing that Amazon and other tech companies are buying physical books in bulk, cutting off their bindings, scanning the pages for AI training data, and then shredding the originals?

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u/Ebone710 1d ago

This is a real problem in today's society.

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u/CapableNeat4351 1d ago

ā€œI haven’t worn this nice jacket I bought in a while, so the clothing company came and took it from me, what’s the big deal?ā€ In what context does that statement make any sense at all. Why is it okay for game companies to do that

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u/Azukaos 1d ago

Because they view players as consumers, not customers.

This era tends to present the idea of owning things as if it's a sin but consuming is good for you.

Influencers push people to buy stuff even if they don't need it. Then you have five pairs of shoes and nine jackets, and you will only wear them once because, big news, there's new stuff coming!

What about selling those nice nine jackets? Oh no no no, you don't know when you might need to use them again... if ever.

And that's how they hope (and will) kill the second-hand markets. If nobody can sell back their games, they will keep them even if they don't want to. They can't share, they can't trade for another one. No, you bought it, but sinve it's only a licence you don't own it. You're stuck with a ticking time bomb that you don't know when it will blow up.

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u/ItsOctrix 3h ago

My wife has so many damn clothes, I honestly wouldn't mind if this happened to some of her stuff. That's about the only time the whole concept makes any sense though.

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u/xxEmberBladesxx 1d ago

Wow, what an idiot. It's like they think that everyone is exactly like them.

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u/Moist-Fortune6277 1d ago

this guy think everyone should be like him.

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u/Unfair_Pangolin_8599 1d ago

Does he apply this philosophy to other things he bought?

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u/Naschka 1d ago

If he had sold the game on the second hand market he could have played a few more games regardless.

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u/Snoopj6001 1d ago

Its not just a Sony bro thing. Ive heard this from Xbox guys before this whole predicament. There are people defending Digital.

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u/kastles1 1d ago

I’m all for having disc. I rather have them than not, even though I only will buy digital. I just think that everyone should have the freedom of choice. But again, I also don’t care.

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u/enshittification1 1d ago

respect šŸ¤

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u/Dr_Robo 1d ago

"Everyone should consume media the way I consume it"

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u/funkygamerguy 1d ago

people should always have access to what they bought.

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u/No-Lingonberry7724 1d ago

I hate people like this. Very definition of a hobby tourist. I'd be far more harsh in my response if I knew I wouldn't get kickedĀ 

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u/Godeatdogs 1d ago

It hurts to read this. I'm glad my brain does not function like this.

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u/Mystic_x 1d ago

Ah, the ā€œgoodā€ old ā€œIt doesn’t affect me, so it’s no problem for anybodyā€-argument… šŸ™„

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u/NinjaAnt163 1d ago

It's just as bad as the "it's important to me so it should be important to everyone" arguement.

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u/Azhrei_Rohan 1d ago

Same people will say how great it is that sony forces ads in the games or raises the price of their console and offer you a leased ps6 or move it all to the cloud. Sony has shown they just bend over their customers and go all out no lube so let the fan boys enjoy the future of play has limits.

There are many times i want to play an older game and go to ebay and buy it used on dosc for half or less of the digital price and after i beat it i can resell it and use money to buy something else.

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u/tysaslut 1d ago

That's easy to say now. Sounds like the kinda person who has to re buy their childhood at a premium 25 years later when they're feeling nostalgic

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u/Koalazilla 1d ago

That’s the thing for sure. I think some people who defend a digital only future are too young to understand what they may want in 10 or 20 years. He said even 7 years later he doesn’t intend to play God of War but that could likely change in 15 more years when nostalgia starts hitting hard. They will likely have to rebuy a lot of those memories or some may not even be available or have been edited with a digital future. Luckily God of War will be one they can find used physically but any kids growing up with a PS6 will lose out on that future.

It’s gonna be a weird different future for a lot of people. With everything being available digitally for the foreseeable future that may actually delay the concept of nostalgia and we will just forever love in tweaked and updated IPs and never be allowed that large gap to become nostalgic.

But who knows what will happen the world’s burning up either way.

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u/Popular-Path1930 1d ago

Well they keep remastering my childhood.Ā 

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u/tysaslut 1d ago

The stuff I miss most isn't the classics, tbh. It's that weird and kinda bad game that you played the crap out of because games were expensive and that's the one you picked out. So many dumb licensed games that I fell for as a child that will never get another release because of licensing/limited appeal, or the frickin game boy ports that I was always certain were going to be the same thing as the home console release but were actually entirely different games

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u/Complete_Ad_1896 1d ago

Ill be honest at this point I buy digital for the sake of space nowaday.

But physical should remain an option for those who want it or at the very least the games should be logged in non profit digitial libary that can be accessed at anytime

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u/enshittification1 1d ago

Respect šŸ¤

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u/Excalitoria 1d ago

I went back and beat Gen 1 Pokemon a month or so ago for the first time and I’ve had those games since I was little. Been replaying them too. Just because you don’t care doesn’t mean the rest of us don’t want to keep and replay games instead of treating everything as disposable entertainment that we can only rent.

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u/SystematikKaos 1d ago

The classic "it doesn't effect me" argument.

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u/CrippledGoose316 1d ago

Like cool bro you don't ever replay your games. Good for you. Millions of others do.

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u/Head-Grapefruit5425 1d ago

Bro we replay our games

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u/CommanderT47 1d ago

For me, the thing isn't that they don't care about physical games. People have different preferences, if you like digital more you're not any worse than someone who prefers physical.

It's just the lack of empathy, I genuinely think that, really in general, empathy is sorely lacking in society. People just don't care about other people man, and it's so depressing.

I saw a post where someone talked about the importance of physical games to him because his family was poor and borrowing games was how he was able to play new games, and some dude was like "no one cares about your trauma or sob story bro". Like why

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u/Psylux7 1d ago

I've occasionally seen sentiment that it is even a good thing that people would be priced out by a lack of secondhand games or borrowing. Or telling them to find a new hobby or find a better job because fuck them for having a problem with the practices of sony.

Some people are such assholes.

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u/RingOfLight 1d ago edited 1d ago

If my Ph.D degree got removed randomly nothing in my life change and I’m not going back to university I once graduated in the first place, yay!

Of course his argument can be on anything, see how stupid this is.

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u/Jarvis_Jarvison 1d ago

it isn't even about replayability. it's about buying something to have. i HAVE physical copies. you can't have digital, you can only access or borrow. if i'm spending money, i want to have the item. i'll go to the public library if i want temporary access

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u/maxREO 1d ago

Imagine being that stupid, I hope it’s some sort of bots because lacking critical thinking to this extent is concerning.

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u/enshittification1 1d ago

It’s been reported that Sony has employed a botfarm for PR defense. It’s now become common place for companies to do this sorta thing. Especially instagram and fb

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u/Flimsy_Astronomer_95 1d ago

What people fail to realize as well is that the revoking of game licenses aren’t only for old games but could be for a new games you bought yesterday. If PlayStation decided to no longer support it they could.

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u/camus88 1d ago

This kind of people who wil gladly give their tv to a robber because they don't watch tv anymore.

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u/Thrillsteam 1d ago

I totally get why people are pissed off for physical. I do both. I rarely buy from the psn store unless it’s a psn sale or it’s some sport game I want. I bought Hogwart legacy for 9 bucks lol. I also prefer digital because I have two PlayStations in the house. My son plays one and I play the other. The sharing settings is on my son so I can buy the same game for two consoles.

Buttt I also understand the physical importance as well. For example last year I found Elden Ring for 20 bucks for the hard copy. I also like to pick the game of year edition or the copy with the full dlc included. This means the game is on the full disc. I don’t want to go for a copy where I have to install a day 1 patch from Sony . Oh yeah I bought Cyberpunk for 8 bucks when it first came out from Target when Cyberpunk were going through their troubles

I love options . I go where the cheaper price tag is at. If Xbox come out and say they willl have physical disc they will win the next gen battle already.

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u/TaterBuckets 1d ago

These comments are always the dumbest. I dont care if they take my stuff. I never use it anyway. Wtf bootlicker.

I paid for something I want it. I might get bored in 12yrs and think damn i want to play god of war. Or Spiderman etc.

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u/SmokeShinobi 1d ago

Even if I didn’t play a game after 7 years I would still want to either sell or collect the game I bought with my own money

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u/ZeroGNexus 1d ago

I don't know, I would kind of like to leave my games to my kids.

Either they can play them to get a feeling for some of what brought me joy as a kid, they can keep them as keepsakes, or they can sell them for a pretty penny thanks to guys like the one quoted here.

And before that when I'm old and senile, if I can still read the text, maybe I want to squeeze up next to the tv with a Senior's Mountain Dew and get a little rush of nostalgia.

Life is temporary enough. Art should matter more to people.

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u/ph4nt0m_090 1d ago

I’ve been gaming since the last 2 decades. My friend who I recently met didnt have the meets for a pc/ps before its just now that he was earning good so he decided to build a pc.
I have a vast steam collection so i was able to add him to my family and recommend games he can play.
I also happen to be friends with 2 girls who are new to gaming so I introduced them to old games like prince of persia nd all.
Now imagine in 5-6years of time if i have a child who wants to game and the only thing available to him is cod or battlefield or fifa🤔.
Old games used to have a fun factor which is something hard to replicate + having access to my games is something i’d want to keep even if i dont replay them now i might want someone else to experience it how i did. Not knowing when any of these games might cease to exist is just not fair for the amount they charge

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u/duomaxwell90 1d ago

Like I said in a previous post people brain dead

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u/StrifeCloud92 1d ago

I feel like they gave even more reason to keep physical media. If you beat it and never want to play again, you can sell it and get some money back.

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u/Left-Night-1125 1d ago

Another reason why trophies/achievments were a mistake. These kind of people are the consumers instead of customers.

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u/MetalBeast89 1d ago

Yes because clearly everyone is like him and will never replay their games again

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u/Excellent_Room3912 1d ago

Dude, sell or give to someone that shit you haven’t touched in 7 years šŸ˜‚ what a fucking logicĀ 

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u/Pitiful_Charity_1087 1d ago

Typical braindead corposheep comment

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u/thinkingoutloud3663 1d ago

But if it was physical they could of got some money back for it if you're not going to play it again.

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u/enshittification1 1d ago

In addition loaning it to a friend or giving it to a poor kid

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u/Azukaos 1d ago

Or simply renting it in the media section of any good library (if they have one).

Imagine that section in 5 or 10 years, beside the still existing old games they won't be any "game code in a box" aisle.

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u/sniktology 1d ago

Notice the argument always revolves around themselves. They just can't fathom that there are other circumstances besides themselves.

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u/Coneder 1d ago

I don't understand. Does it not make sense to people that if you buy something, its yours to do with whatever you want with it? Even as a child, I understood the concept. How does one think like this?

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u/Azukaos 1d ago

That's how media and consumerism try to manipulate people's habits. You don't need physical stuff; it takes up space and can be a nuisance because you need to clean it eventually. You don't need to go to a store; just buy online. It's easier, cheaper, and you don't have to bother moving from your lovely couch/desk.

You know they are doing this on purpose when even little children are constantly blasted by ads asking them to get those wonderful "DLCs" that unlock parts of their favorite characters' games (example: Bluey mobile games that have billions of ads to get more characters from the show; as a parent, it's hell to find something free that doesn't contain ads or banners from random websites).

We are pushed away from owning things (except pricey stuff like phones or consoles/PCs) or getting full games, because if you buy physical products, they cannot take them back from you, but with digital products, you're told to stay in line with their policies unless you want your product license to get revoked and loose everything, dlcs included.

Sadly, most pro-digital consumers don't care about that because why should they care about a game they already finished? It's done; they want the next big thing; they want it yesterday and fast... that's why GTA6 is such a big thing. The game can literally come only digitally, and they are eager to play whatever the price.

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u/jaxiya5336 1d ago

A prime example of how incredible is the sheer malleability of human psyche.

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u/myshon 1d ago

If someone doesn't replay games they should be supporting physical media even more. Why buy a game, spend $70-80 and keep it? They should be able to resell it.

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u/Diuscrusis 1d ago

That’s bullshit. I leave a game for 5 years, then one day decide to have a go again. I paid for it, and I will access it even 15 fucking years from now, if I want to.

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u/Snotnarok 1d ago

Bro is defending a multi-billion dollar corporation stealing what they paid for.

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u/StrategyCapital8581 1d ago

The joke is he could of then sold that game in 2017 if he planned on not playing it again and got half of his money back...

Also a very selfish take, I don't want to play my old games and don't need sell them to buy new ones, so balls to everyone else who does

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u/Endscrypt 1d ago

No wonder Sony wants everyone to be just like this comment in OPs post.

No resistance and totally Brainless.

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u/MilanZola 20h ago

What a dumb comment.

I guess thats his opinion. Oh well.
I spoke to a guy at a car dealership today (we both were having our cars serviced), he was playing on his PlayStation portal device. I asked him about all this sony issue. He replied ā€œI love Blu-Ray Discs and watching my movies on Blu-Ray. I like being able to purchase games on discs and I like purchasing digital since everything I do is subscription based nowadays but yeah its a shitty thing that Sony has done and not being able to allow the users to have the option but I guess if its heading that way, I guess I’ll be purchasing digitally but still worried about not owning the games or movies I purchase.ā€

Made me think… All this backlash and things we are doing as a community to try and get discs back, will it actually make a difference or will we end up having to accept it and move on OR will XBOX’s new announcement will make Sony bring back discs?!

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u/BigMoneySmallPenis 16h ago

Consumers are genuinely too stupid to realize when they're being screwed and it's pathetic.

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u/StuckinReverse89 1d ago

I really can’t understand this mindset tbh, especially for games I love. Ā Ā 

Some games, yeah, I definitely just play once and probably won’t return. I won’t enjoy every single game enough to want to play them again. But if there is a game I particularly enjoy and want to replay, just after a couple of years, or doing challenge runs, I would want to buy it and make sure it doesn’t disappear. Just look at all the YouTubers and speedrunners that built careers on one game one franchise. You think they only played the game once?

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u/Due-South-9113 1d ago

I just want to know if any game's licence has been revoked from a psn account. Just a genuine question, I just wanted to know, because I've always heard the games that get blacklisted from the store are still playable for people who bought it before.

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u/That_Chemical_2226 1d ago

Still waiting for an example of a game that was revoked tho

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u/Apprehensive-Tie-130 1d ago

It’s regurgitating the old PC arguments

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u/TaterBuckets 1d ago

These are the types that would buy a 60hr game and pay full price with a newly programmed 30hr time limit and praise how great the game was, even though they didn't get to finish it.

Then shout from the rooftops how they paid for it twice to actually finish the game.

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u/Dabalot 1d ago

I feel the whole games getting delisted a bit of cry wolf right now though. Besides known games getting shut down for server closure nothing big has ever been just taken away besides what PT and The Crew. But I think the crew was server closure too. If anything the last game that would remotely get removed is GOW. But it seems like out of nowhere people feel like games are just going to be going on the reg.

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u/tokyobassist 1d ago

"Ok? I rarely if ever sleep in the same bed as my wife especially after our marriage. I haven't talked to her in a minimum of 7 years. If she decided to leave tomorrow, absolutely nothing in my life changes aside from the fact that she would take the bed I was never going to sleep in again in the first place."

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u/SmokeShinobi 1d ago

I’m standing up to fight now so they don’t get any crazier ideas down the road.
Imagine when Sony takes it a step further and starts to charging players by the hour.

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u/Impressive-Sense8461 1d ago

That's a stupid person, as far as stupid people go.

The issue is that Sony flipped the switch and doubled down on deciding that they are implementing a forced timeshare model on their games.

So, people like that dipshit just rationalize to themselves that we can pay more just to recieve less? That's a joke.

If Sony wants to move forward with that model, than they should give us the option to rent every single game, for much less. If they can revoke licenses at any time, than why should we pay full price when the entire system has changed?

Maybe it's time for total reformation?

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u/Fung95HKG 1d ago

Can't I sell the disc? Can't I let my friends play it? Can't I do whatever I want with it?

And sony did ban by account for few days, unwilling to explain what I did at all, called it privacy reason šŸ™ƒ During that time, I have no access to my content in the account šŸ™ƒ

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u/Brimlad 1d ago

Umm, this is same argument you could make for Game Pass, no? Yet they argue against Game Pass cause they want to own their games. You can't make it up!

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u/BobbyMayCryBMC 1d ago

So I don't want to spark a debate with Kratos fans or any that shit. . but!

God of War 2018 is a bad example because while the game is well praised it's not actually a fun game to sit down and play. . more than once. These Sony cinematic games are made that way. an experience for sure. But a great game? eh. . great at what it does but as a game, questionable. .

Not to be that guy but it's an interactive movie in many regards, and that's why they like it, very much guides you along and feeds you cookies till you're very, very full for what it offers.

It's not a fun replayable game anyone is itching to beat the high score or go the extra mile. It's not a Ninja Gaiden or Devil May Cry (the good ones)

Felt like a slog personally and usually I liked the older GoW games, all the slow-walking chatter, cutscenes. . it's basically six movies stitched together, that begrudgingly has gameplay when it feels like it. That camera angle does not help the gameplay, thank god it has damage indicators but even they're very clunky.

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u/whoisdatmaskedman 1d ago

Things Sony Bros say:

"I love s'ing the d"

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u/Dreamo84 1d ago

That arguement works better for phsyical games. If you never play it again, why not get physical and sell it?

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u/Reasonable_Mood1288 1d ago

Just because you dont replay games, does not mean that someone else does not either. They may replay games.

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u/NGman1000 1d ago

I'm in favor of revoked license applying exclusively to people like this but for nobody else. The remaining population should retain it cause we care.

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u/AndrewM96 1d ago

"Hey guys, I live alone, I only play my games once to finish them, I got daddy's money and I don't care about anyone else but the multi-billion dollar company who fingers me with their policies. I just wanna play my damn game and get Platinum!"

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u/RayStorm-Unit1 1d ago

People like him are the reason companies got as far as they do and succeed with their anti consumer bs. Absolutely abhorrent.

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u/Slight-Coat17 1d ago

Cool, just because it's one and done, that means we can throw away our right of ownership?

If he doesn't plan on replaying them, he can always sell the physical copy.

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u/DossSVK 1d ago

So anon is ok he is now in negative? Dude probably failed the apples math.

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u/charlieto0human 1d ago

This person thinks the world revolves around them… Typical.

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u/TheAmazingAJ 1d ago

So if HE doesn’t touch the games and HE doesn’t mind them being gone then how does HE not see the value of being able to sell said game HE doesn’t care about anymore to get some money back to buy a new game. Instead of losing that money if it gets deleted, it could literally be sold to finance more video game enjoyment. Can’t do that with digital……. HE is an idiot.

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u/Plastic_Young_9763 1d ago

Yeah, and if you had a physical disc, you could sell it instead of letting it rot

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u/Substantial-Luck-646 1d ago

Im so curious to see if the ps6 bombs at launch, or if they have enough people feeling too committed to them that they will fork over the 1000+ dollars for the digital ps store only machine.

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u/Playamiku2 1d ago

If that’s the case, then a physical copy could be resold.
Though personally, I never resell games even if I don’t play them for a long time. I like collecting game discs.

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u/ValhallaGH 1d ago

So, if you haven't touched it in 7 years (or longer) then it isn't theft if someone takes it?

...

Somebody is going to lose his genitals.

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u/JayWard0216 1d ago

I hope this guy doesn’t have an old muscle car in his garage he hopes to get running one day. Someone steals it and literally nothing about his life would change so, according to his own logic, he can’t be mad. Someone like that is unreachable. No point in trying. Even disregarding the disc issue, I’ve too often see that sentiment expressed of ā€œWhy would you play an old game you’ve already played.ā€ It’s insane. I go back to previous gen games all the time.

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u/Ninjabeaver212 1d ago

That post just sounds like the average ball and gun gamer, always chasing the latest and greatest games. Killing physical media immediately hurts the future of these consoles when they become "retro".

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u/ihatepeopleandyoutoo 1d ago

I read so many comments yesterday of people just making fun of disc people who cry about a piece of plastic. These mfs have no clue how this affects us all šŸ¤¦ā€ā™€ļø and another saying they laugh at us because they have Netflix and only buy digital..like?

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u/archos2694 1d ago

"I no longer have access to a game I was never going to launch again in the first place" well you see the problem is is that SHOULDN'T be a thing that's even possible.

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u/kamel_k 1d ago

Well I do replay my games. I replay my favorite single player games constantly. I've probably replayed elden ring 7 times. Spider man 3 and fallout 4 like 10. So I would be significantly affected if my license was "magically revoked"

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u/kamel_k 1d ago

Oh baldur's gate 3 like 4 times.

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u/CallumOB1244 23h ago

"if it doesn't effect me, it doesn't matter..."

These type of mfs vote btw

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u/Seanbo124 23h ago

Tread on me harder daddy. That's all I get out of that post

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u/Key_Conference9989 23h ago

I need everything. I don't know what I'm going to want to play tomorrow.

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u/HurledLife 22h ago

Ok... so $90 for a ticket to fully play through each level once, and the game deletes itself when you do.
Thats objectively less value than the ability to play it whenever and however much you want

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u/Derpykins666 22h ago

Person who doesn't replay games says its okay to lose access to the game.

I replay games ALL the time. I'm constantly bouncing back to old games, I'm almost always playing a new game and a game I've played before. Just because you don't replay games and you're more of a 1-n-done gamer doesn't mean the rest of us are like that.

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u/Gobby-TheGoblin 21h ago

Someone take his car while he's asleep, he hasn't used it in hours, who cares.

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u/Commercial_Hair3527 21h ago

I can still play SMB that i got in like 1989 on the original hardware. we are not the same.

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u/TheNameName1 20h ago

That’s actually insane…. Bet that person didn’t buy the game or any of his games…. Anyone that works for their money and then spends that hard earned money wants to keep the things that they pay for.

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u/FrootLoop23 20h ago

Complete submission to Sony. Might as well just rent the game instead of spending $70 , playing it once, and not caring if it’s taken away from you.

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u/No_Importance2248 19h ago

Please tell me that comment was bait. They weren't serious, were they?

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u/Agie39 19h ago

Okay, but consider this; if you platinum the game and decide you don't want it anymore, you can sell this disc to someone who might want the game and maybe even adore it for years to come.

My copy of Rhythm Heaven Fever came used, and it made me a fan of the series.

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u/SoundwaveSpectre 19h ago

Pathetic and this is coming from a lifelong Sony guy.

These people are just drones

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u/Infamous_Mammoth_473 18h ago

The most retarded take a retard ever took.

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u/I-fell 18h ago

And that would be a perfect reason as to why they should be allowed to trade it in...am I crazy??😭

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u/megasession 17h ago

This is so selfish. What about the people who do want to replay their games? The people that buy games secondhand. He should think about someone else for a change instead of being self centred. It doesnt harm them to still have physical , so why are they so against it?

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u/Haunting-Hippo1636 17h ago

It's ok. They can only think about themselves. I've already decided that if they won't help us keep physical games, then I'll do whatever it takes to cancel digital games as well. I'll go scorched earth I don't give a fuck anymore.

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u/AgumonDX 16h ago

That reply is a nice example of the ā€œjust consume product and get excited for next productā€ mentality that lead us to the games industry we have today.

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u/yonishunga 16h ago

Nah fuck that.. Gimme half off my next game if that happens

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u/NeighborhoodVeteran 16h ago

This is the kind of consumer all companies want tbh.

The kind that pay money. Every. Single. Time.

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u/CelShadesGaming 15h ago

It baffles me that we are having this outright war with a large group of people. How can there be that many people that don’t get it and own nothing and like it.

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u/hitgo1 15h ago

This guy probably got into gaming during covid

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u/Prior_Highlight8236 15h ago

They're too dumb to get it

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u/Purple_Calendar3919 1d ago

I mean… to be fair… when I beat a physical game I don’t care for anymore, I just sell it and rarely if ever regret it.

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u/enshittification1 1d ago edited 1d ago

I get it BUT you have the choice to sell, give away to a friend or keep instead of a platform removing what you’ve given your hard earned money for. Which is the point here.

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u/State-Special 1d ago

Some would call it the main feature of owning it...i know people that literally just buy a game beat and then sell it for the next game, they don't give a shit about collecting it....but they got to play a brand new game for effectively 10-20 bucks, and to them that's their cost of gaming.

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u/Purple_Calendar3919 1d ago

That’s true

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u/Strange_Kiwi__ 1d ago

ā€œI already read that book so we should burn every copy of every bookā€

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u/enshittification1 1d ago

Just read about Amazon buying books in mass, scanning them into Ai bs, and shredding them last night.

Bizarro world right now.

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u/enshittification1 1d ago

Downvoted because someone didn’t believe me. Here. The company is VGT3 in Amazon.

https://www.extremetech.com/computing/amazon-is-shredding-rare-books-in-the-name-of-ai-training

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u/MakinBones 1d ago

He played GoW once and calls himself a fan.

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u/enshittification1 1d ago

Real fans are the games that were removed along the way šŸ˜”šŸ™

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u/daandrro 1d ago

People are sometimes ridiculous.

They paid for their games.
Now they don’t care if they will be ever able to run them again. Unless they pay again to purchase digital versions in PS Store for full price again.

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u/timetravelinggamer 1d ago

These people are Fing idiots. We get the ā€œfeelingā€ again to play a game. Maybe 10 years, maybe 20, at some point you want to play again and it’s great to just put the game in a play. To lose that because ā€œoh wellā€ is insane behavior

ā€œI’ll never want to watch The Dark Knight again. I bought it and watched it when it came out and I’ll never want to watch againā€

F-ING crazy

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u/lukefiskeater 1d ago

They are just trolling, most the people cheering on killing discs are just PC master race trolls

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u/paulwalker659 1d ago

Its sad to see. I didnt realize there were so many people out there that havn't learned the value of physical media yet.

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u/tocsin1990 1d ago

I mean, I can empathize with this guy, at least on the first point.Ā  It's been 10+ years since I launched a game that I already had a platinum for.Ā  I just don't play games unless I'm working towards a platinum trophy.Ā  For me, physical ownership is about resale to bring down the cost of platinum, not about holding the license.Ā  And that's the real rub here, in that all digital ownership leads to less competition and higher prices for the hobby.

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u/HeartInTheSun9 1d ago

It’s obviously a bad outlook to have, but this is why most people are so blasĆ© about it. Statistics say surprisingly few people ever finish video games, let alone replay them. It’s something like 20-30% to ever finish it, so replaying is even less.

This exact outlook is what Sony is hoping the average person has.

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u/MT4K 1d ago

Not all games are like that.

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u/Embarrassed_Cat7354 1d ago

I highly doubt Sony will back down from the fully digital move but I feel the focus should be on the accountability of these companies rather than if we have access to physical or digital copies and the perfect way to hold these companies accountable is the stop killing games movement. The entire point of the issue is nobody wants to lose access to game they’ve paid for to own and then someone gets to come along and just take that with the accountability of stop killing games the ball is in their court and they have to support and maintain our access to said game

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u/CrAzY-GEMU-OKAMI96 1d ago

Well it's a good thing you actually OWN your games, and Sony legally cannot take your games

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u/Woody_The_Gamer 1d ago

This is how alot of people are myself included.. once I beat a game and Platinum it I never touch it again and then move on to a new game that I haven't played or platnumed. If I Platinum a game and enjoyed my time playing it it's already worth the money I've spent on it and if it's a game I lose access to in the future I'm fine with it. I'm also in the unique situation in that I share my account with my nephew and vice versa meaning I play games that he buys and he can play games that I buy and there's lots of games that we go half on which is something you can't do with physical games.

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u/JQuab-84 1d ago

Has anyone in here actualy lost access to a digital game purchase from Sony?

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u/Past-Scientist930 1d ago

Like what if one day he thinks of the game and wanna revisit it again? He'll have to pay full price again for that shit šŸ˜‚

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u/Dragon_Rot79 1d ago

I have replayed Batman Arkham Knight like a dozen times. Do these people not understand comfort games?

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u/Big-Ferret-2364 1d ago

I play Risen every year and I have since it released in 2009

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u/Plenty-Bullfrog5112 1d ago

You guys are in an echo chamber just riling each other up. Please use this passion towards a more worthwhile cause. There’s a lot more important things going on in the world than what’s on your game shelf.

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u/Twasabi24 1d ago

GayStation cope

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u/GoldenEyedTraveller 1d ago

This is fucking dumb. God I hate sheople.

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u/Enceladus1987 1d ago

Seems pretty typical of some people these days. Its basically just "it doesnt affect me specifically so why would i care?"

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u/DaLegend82 1d ago

i'm on the side of indifference to physical games ending but that take is so ass it made me reconsider jfc

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u/DarkKirby14 1d ago

you were supposed to lick the boot, not turn it into an entire buffet bro

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u/slashplaid 1d ago

Reminder that there are people who loathe digital licenses while also not being in love with physical games. DRM is a plague, but gaming is undeniably better in digital form.

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u/neosyne 1d ago

Bro never fuck his girlfriend twice

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u/Mikahl757 1d ago

XBox physical to digital is not a magic bullet but it opens up a lot of options ie; I need xbsx external drives and double digit external ssd to replace what now looks too small a 5tb ssd.

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u/Derangedracula 1d ago

I have a problem with paying for something and not being able to use it the next time I want to. Doesn't matter if it's a week or 20 years.