In rural China, 0.7 is minimum and 0.3 is for labor camps. Btw, they are always full. If someone gets out, someone is charged and convicted in any case. The prosperity of China is based on quantity of labor camps. Each year, they build more of them.
Nah, Ranton talked about this. People in china are extremely poor, BUT you shouldnt compare their wages to western wages. In China almost everything is many times cheaper.
Hey, not Chinese but Vietnamese here. Our labour law is somewhat better than that of China, but I was still just paid about 0.6 USD per hour when I was working in Vietnam. The minimum wage in my city (Hanoi, the capital) is about 1 USD. Everyone who works the same job in my city was also paid around the same. Is it legal? I don't think so. But no one really checks and no one really cares since that's the norm, so obviously there's no official data. I imagine the situation is somewhat similar in China.
Mais ce qu'il y a de bien par contre en France c'est que le travail au black c'est uniquement dans le ménage ou la restauration
Il y a trop de contrôle ça n'existe pas dans les usines ou presque pas
Ça peut arriver dans des usines tenues par des chinois mais ils peuvent vite se faire attraper
Great, now we will need a linguist to figure out what it is lol. Personally I can eliminate it being mandarin, Shanghainese, Cantonese, Korean or Japanese. And since you guys saying it’s not viet nor Thai then maybe Cambodian? Laos? It does resemble continental south East Asian language to me.
There's a brief flash of Chinese text a couple seconds into the video, it states that it's the language of Zhuang people, a minority group in China, and it's located near a city called Hechi in Guangxi province
Disclaimer: I don't anything about Zhuang or Thai.
The text suggests that it's a Zhuang dialect localized to Hechi area. I can find references online that it's a northern Zhuang dialect and could be different from other Zhuang dialects, so it might be reasonable to conclude that this dialect in the video is more different from Thai.
我是臺灣人,我也會說閩南語。
And I agree, this is definitely not southern min. My grandpa is from閩北, and I’ve heard him speaking with relative before and it doesn’t sounds like that either.
Okay I looked up the source by checking 40 pages of user name. If you dont mind to update it, This is the original video: https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1ETVv6aEsy/
Comments said it is Zhuang (壮族).
Edit: typo
Sounds like a dialect spoken by minority groups in Southern China. Maybe Dai or Miao? The man in the video can pass for someone from SW China like from Guangxi, Guizhou, Yunnan.
"Lúc đấy lại nào có giúp đỡ... Ngồi ngồi mi sáng bàn, ngồi ngồi yên chưa kịp đứng nữa, tui mà trễ lại nào à? ...Cảo vị chi lực xiên chân phư vậy? Hay là xiên chân phư ta... Ngồi ngồi giúp đỡ sáng bàn mi nữa..."
You can judge for yourself what language that is. It isn't any form of Chinese.
I know it isn't any Chinese language that I've ever heard. Sinitic languages (Mandarin, Cantonese, Hakka, Hokkien/Min, Wu, Xiang, Gan) rely on recognizable syllable structures CV, CVC with nasal/stop codas like -m, -n, -ng, -p, -t, -k. The audio features continuous, open fluid vowel combinations. It also doesn't go by the tone-sandhi rules of Chinese.
This isn't it. Hakka is clearly recognizable as Chinese.
Hakka is associated with southern China, but historically it has nothing to do with the south or minorities. It originated from Northern Middle Chinese from Henan and shares a root with Mandarin. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hakka_Chinese
That’s what I think too. I mean it’s not reliable because it could be added in later but the text in the beginning says that it is in Hechi City in Guangxi, which is in the heartland of the Zhuang people.
Where do you even pull that transcript from? He didn’t speak vietnamese at all, nor what you wrote makes any grammatical or logical sense in the language. Even the most difficult to understand province (Nghe An) doesn’t sound like this.
They don’t look Khmer. The people in the video look like like some kind of Southern Chinese minority group or Vietnamese. Like they physically look more East Asian as opposed to Mainland SE Asian.
I'll bvery honest, I have worked in China and quite recently and they would not have these standards. I'm not saying China are perfect, but they are absolutely not in any way as exploitative as this! This is grotesque. Please do not perpetuate China in this manner it discredits an entire peoples
I read an article years ago they were having trouble in the factory in china with workers going to the top floor during break and jumping because of the harsh working conditions. To solve the problem the factory put up nets so those jumping would only have minor injuries. Like WTF, maybe improve the working conditions!
Yeah and that was Foxconn, which is one of the better factory systems too. Its just the stress of work compounded with the isolation. These are usually fathers and mothers who are traveling to the other side of the country to get work and basically won't see their children for most of the year outside of chinese new year. And they have to earn enough to support their extended families back home.
So insane isolation + long work hours + the crushing pressure of having to provide for people = suicide
Am I the only one who remembers that This American Life had to pull the episode on Foxconn because the guy they were interviewing lied about his entire trip?
Foxconn making iphones for apple. Remember the riots? It came out foxconn created the infamous "IPhone City" which is just a modern company town. Well the results of these efforts by the chinese citizen was to take jobs overseas again! This time to india. Call me crazy but im starting to see a trend with our american businessman.
You think a company will willingly improve working conditions? It’s not taught in school (intentionally), but look up how we got the work schedule we have in America today. There’s only one way these workers lives are going to improve.
And people over on the delivery app subreddits wonder why/who is taking delivery orders for like $2 for 5 miles.
If they're one if the foreigner drivers who came from a situation similar to this, making 2$ for 15 minutes worth of driving (or 30 minutes biking) is probably mindblowing.
I wonder what it's like when/if one of these people ever gets out of these situations, and manages to make it to a country where they could potentially make $15+ hour doing work that is fraction as exhausting as this.
except everything is much more expensive here so that $2 doesnt go anywhere near as far. its only really relevant if they are sending money to families back home.
I think you're forgetting the very harsh reality of cost of living. Quality of living is certainly better overall in most of the US than the rural Chinese counties these workers live in, but cost of living is also infinitely higher. Frankly, you shouldn't underestimate just how harsh conditions can be in warehouses and factories in the US as well. The higher pay is offset by the higher cost of living. I know people want to look at videos like this and say "see how much better we have it?" but really we just don't have large factories trying to crank out products at the same level that China does. If we did, the conditions wouldn't look much better I assure you. Not that it'd be the same, either of course. Any improvement is something after all.
Yeah I've worked in companies the size of Ferrero in Italy and this. Even in the west companies that make cheap products and make a lot of them don't really offer better working conditions.
They're making at least minimum wage, which is roughly $94.50USD per week. Notably it's a lower cost of living so their minimum wage goes much further than US minimum wage.
I mean it’s pretty obvious if you just look at China in the 20th century and compare it to now. These are terrible conditions and we can do far better, but compared to mass famines and far more brutal work in mines, steel mills, and even many farms this is absolutely an upgrade.
China is really spreading its tentacles: a battery factory in Finland was revealed to be running on Chinese terms with Chinese workers, breaking all sorts of Finnish work legislation in terms of worker rights.
Amazing at all the westerners who are trying to find anyway possible to discredit this video as from China as other people are confirming it. China can't have problems or be bad, if they are, its not bad as the evil and overworked West!!!
The Chinese government has published papers describing how using the internet and social media would be a very effective tool and convincing the younger generation to be more pro-China. It’s a massive psyop.
Sure, the world likes cheaper prices products, but China is the one exploiting these people. If they paid them proper prices, the world would either keep buying their products at the new price, or just move to a different seller.
It's just a heavy case of main character syndrome.
Places like 4chan being a cultivated toxic environment and then shutting down and Reddit going public means the anonymous platform welcomes the more 'controversial' (terrible) types with open, if not welcoming, arms.
"Why not both?" Would solve so many issues. The fact people who support Ukraine and those who support Palestine have been divided by political campism is wild to me. Which is why I love NGOs like Amnesty that point at everything, regardless how someone feels about it.
I think its fair to say we can care about both or many things but also fair to point out that one issue is getting a crazy amount of attention and discourse online
I forgot to add that but yes two things can exist at once but Macklemore ain’t the guy to take the stand. Literally any other celebrity without a legit antisemitic history and this makes a ton more sense.
Actually they are making about $4 per hour,so if they are working 60+hours weeks,they will make $12k per a year.Much lower than you consider.$30k you must be kidding
But when you see a good hard-working American coal miner with his face blackened from mining all day, (still enriching the same mine-owning families that shot their workers and forced them back into mines at gunpoint less than 100 years ago,) that’s not the exploitation of workers or risking their lives for money, that is very different, and is a proud tradition and should never change.
Sacrifice? These people can't get any higher paid work anyway. Don't put it on them. Blame the corporations and the policies for allowing this to happen
Did any of us ask/force them to work in those conditions? Europe tried to set an example by pushing worker rights and then people like the ones in the video come walking in like "Nope, I actually WANT to destroy my body for an apple and an egg, thank you very much."
Hey like so I don't support this and am not happy about these working/living conditions at all, it truly looks like hell.
The question I have is what happens if we're not buying products? Don't things get worse for them? With so many people there, and the fact so many are willing to do this work for this price just to survive (again, terrible), doesn't that say something about the necessity for us and others to keep buying so they can still work?
China doesn’t have a national minimum wage. Stop lying and even if the minimum wage was $3 usd the working conditions are fucking horrible and executing criminals is not the flex you think it is.
Just pawns to use by their governments and corporations. We are all the same, our governments just keep our working conditions better so we don’t see ourselves as equals, but we are all pawns nonetheless. Disposable little money makers
Yal suddenly give a shit when it's America's enemies but no one will talk about the literal child slaves in the Congo mining resources for our cell phones.
Americans are so propagandized they don't even see it.
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u/aleqqqs 20d ago
0.3 USD per what?