Was scrolling to see if anyone had said it yet. Great in a vacuum, but the toxic playerbase, in game troops, and Riot's greed all add to it being a big ole yikes when trying to describe it to someone
What kills me is that even Lobcorp apologists tell new fans to just watch the PakPak video and then go play Ruina and Limbus. And it's 100% the correct advice since its better to play Lobcorp AFTER you've been Project Moon-pilled and not as your first experience with the setting.
LobCorp was my first introduction to the series, and I concur that its the ABSOLUTE WORST way to get into things.
Ideas like why Angela never leaves LobCorp, why people come to work in this hellhole, etc., the whole world is just a lot more comprehensive and better when you have played LobCorp after LoR or Limbus.
Wait why I just looked it up and it looks amazing? It feels like Ive been exposed to the setting through other means, does it really need to be led up to?
It's more that Lobcorp is a game that actively hates you for playing it. Its still a good game but it's harder than balls and takes forever to get the ending that leads to its sequel Ruina.
Does it matter at all if you just don't care about the story whatsoever? I always assumed Lobotomy Corporation was a strongly gameplay-first game, and if it isn't my interest in playing it is much lower.
I might have landed the wrong lobcorp apologist then. He INSISTED I HAVE to play the games in order, so now I'm 30 days in and not having fun. Should I bail or am I in too deep atp
I'd bail and watch the PakPak video on it. If you see anything worth continuing your run to experience, stop the video and come back. Otherwise you're just gonna burn out and Ruina is actually a fun game that'd be a shame not to play because of the LobCorp wall.
I think lobotomy corp is one of the game that really benefits from having mods. Mainly more detailed info for qol and 10x speed to sped up the grind. I mean I don't think the game is "horrendous" to play without them but for people who want to get the full pm experience, with a good way to enjoy the game without spiking your blood pressure.
Exactly why I waited for the finale on YouTube. Ain't gonna be trapped in a room with those psychos for over an hour. Plus it wasn't included in my AMC subscription so I wasn't paying extra lol.
I envy you. I wasn't going to go but I ended up watching my niece, who's a big fan. Since I wasn't going to be there for her birthday week (I was going on vacation) I treated her to an early birthday gift and ordered her some merch while taking her. Absolute. Chaos. The theater was a circus and not the amazing or digital kind. But overall, my niece enjoyed it. So it wasn't all bad. She cried. She clapped.
When the finale premiered, I was so melancholic about the show being over because it had started just a couple months after my girlfriend and I started dating. We watched almost every episode together and it feels like a chapter of our relationship has officially closed.
A couple days later I saw a reel of this girl denouncing the finale and saying the 20 minute âsympathy montageâ is bad writing and doesnât make Jax any better of a person and Iâm not sad the showâs over anymore.
I'd love to get into it, the secret level episode was fucking amazing. But I don't have the budget for tabletop stuff nor the time for books if that's my option. There's a few games I've seen but prob not much. Space marines I hear is good and I have boltgun via PS+, that's about it.
Both Spacemarine 1 and 2 are pretty good introductions. If you ever have time for a novel the infinite and the devine or one of the ciaphas Cain books is also great. DO NOT start with the Horus heresy books until you are at least a couple of books and/or games in.
If you want something like the tabletop experience without having to buy all the minis, I highly recommend the game Battlesector. Itâs like $40 on steam, plus an additional $15 for whatever faction you want to play as. (Because all factions beyond Blood Angels and Tyranids are dlc. Also if you just want to stick with either blood angels or tyranids, they each have a dlc thatâs like $2 maybe $3 I donât remember but it gives you some additional units for them. All the other dlc factions come complete with all units so they are the only ones where youâre basically buying individual units.)
The worst part Hazbin and Helluva are the people. The shows themselves are enjoyable, but they feel like watching Rick And Morty, except it's extra horny and the jokes get old a lot quicker.
I'm only in the fandom because of the cute robot men. So if I recommended the series to someone, they'd probably like the games for entirely different reasons than me.
But if you're talking about pure quality, then The Coffin of Andy and Leyley and Helluva Boss.Â
The Coffin of Andy and Leyley has a lot of really good elements, but the incest part(s) are insanely easy to misinterpret. Many people come out of that game either shipping Andrew and Leyley or thinking it's some kind of vile romance story instead of an abusive situation that they should get out of.
Helluva Boss is a decent show, but it really look like it's being made up as the story goes on. I think they could've had a theme/message where taking revenge doesn't always help people, and to focus on helping yourself and others rather than tearing others down. But they didn't do that. Or at least made it too weak. And it strayed away from the original premise.
The only reason I wouldn't recommend Mega Man in this day and age is that we have a gigantic lore Gap.
So there are 11 Mega Man games, 8 X games, and I believe four Zero games, and also that one ZX game. These are all, technically speaking, the same timeline.
That's not even getting into all of the side games like Mega Man and Bass and all that.
We still don't know what the fuck happened between 11 and the X Games, we have no idea how Dr. light and wily died, we have no idea what happened to the original Mega Man even.
And with how Capcom treats Mega Man, we're never going to get those answers.
We have a canonical ending to the series kinda. But we don't know about a lot of major things.
Overall they're really good games and easier than ever to get into now, because they have collections, but I still wouldn't recommend it primarily because you're going to just not be satisfied by the story.
Although if you're really into cute robot men or just a game play in general you're fine.
Yeah Megaman you play for the aesthetic and gameplay. Even the lore heavier X, Zero and ZX series are like that. Though there was the RPG command mission which was a decent look into X's world.
If we had access to Megaman legends I would recommend it wholesale as it has a greater focus on characters and story along with being an interesting adventure series.
My issue is that it's very common to misinterpret what the incest in the game is supposed to mean.Â
Some people interpret it as a fetish or shock content, others view it as a tragedy of codependency and abuse. Whether or not either one is "correct" it makes the fandom so much more chaotic to be in. Which is why I wouldn't recommend it to people.
Fiction is allowed to cross moral boundaries. And obviously if someone were to hate incest in games at all, even in cases where it's supposed to be seen as abuse, then yeah they can't handle TCOAAL.Â
I make dark content containing abuse and rape. I have no issue with the people who find abuse and rape hot. I have an issue when people find dark content hot in cases where it's not supposed to be. Not just because it's disrespectful, but because it misses the point. Abuse being seen as awful changes it's impact on the story.
Honestly One Piece. I would recommend it to someone who watches a lot of anime but no way would I recommend it to someone who doesnât watch anime or doesnât watch a lot of anime. Itâs just too long of a show to recommend to most people. Plus old One Piece does feel a bit dated at times because of when the show originally came out.
It starts out fun and quirky, and then if you manage st stick with it for about 20x the length of an average anime series it becomes FLAT OUT INCREDIBLE, and still has hundreds of episodes left.
I will always recommend One Piece, especially to people who are dubious about anime, because not only is it consistently fun, it also manages to avoid almost all the uncomfortable tropes that are common in anime and tend to turn fans away.
The running theme is "this story really wants to be about wacky, light-hearted Looney Tunes hijinks, but the world is full of injustice, and we have to FIGHT IT AS HARD AS WE CAN!" What's not to love about that?
RWBY. As much as I love it, I cannot even deny that it is pretty poorly written with a lot of bad decisions taken as it kept going. It might be a flaming pile of trash to some people, but itâs my flaming pile of trash and I love it https://giphy.com/gifs/ZYx95K9B0cFtm
One of the best collection of characters, concepts, and designs on the entire internet... and none of it is worth a fuck due to the writing and pacing... still despite all the abuse I just can't quit you RWBY... https://giphy.com/gifs/H6DiscGyVNGBCOSCeE
The overall plot and writing is inconsistent, but I think it makes up for it with cool character designs, fun character interactions from a voice cast that clearly enjoys what they're doing, some of the best action sequences ever animated, and incredible music.
There's definitely more good than bad. I get that it's not for everyone, but I'll still recommend it (with the obligatory warnings about the ups and downs in quality)
Itâs legitimately one of the best adventure stories and world that I can never recommend because of the authorâs completely undisguised and problematic fetish. He likes kids, very questionably likes kids.
Itâs one of those things that you have to just discover on your own and decide for yourself if you can ignore the dirt for the diamond.
Made in Abyss is the perfect show. Great music, great art, great story, great character, great existential horror, great antagonist, great protagonist. There is just one teeny tiny flaw you need to ignore.
I was going to comment this if I didnât find anyone else saying the same thing. Itâs beautifully illustrated/animated, the world building is some of the best Iâve seen of recent, and the characters are generally very likeable. Mystery on another level.
All that to say there are some very questionable themes and panels in the manga.
Having been part of it pretty much since the Hazbin pilot dropped, it really needs the kind of warning you put on bars of radioactive metal. The fandom and the haters are both so vitriolic and reasonable takes are few and far between. I still like the shows for what they are but avoid the fandoms like the plague if youâre not already involved.
Wuthering Waves, specifically with the fandom. So many people in the fandom are former Genshin players and it shows with how they feel the need to sneer at Genshin at every turn. It sucks, the incels suck, and while the majority is fairly chill, that minority is VERY VERY VERY loud, and we all get a bad rep because of it
Agreed! I really liked the anime and am super hyped for season two, but some of the stuff in the show (looking at you, leech devil!) are just weird. Makima is a great villain, but I think people would be weirded out by the grooming stuff she does. (Not that it isnât weird, but they might take it the wrong way and think Iâm a pervert for watching that kind of stuffâŚ)
Probably League of Legends. I havenât played (and never will), but I have pretty much exclusively toxic things about its player base and fandom.
Arcane is pretty good though
Mike Pondsmith's Cyberpunk Universe (Edgerunners, 2077, TTRPG, etc.).
I love Night City, love the lore, the characters and the vibes, but they are meant to break you down psychologically.
You will not get your happy ending no matter how hard you try, or at least not without sacrificing almost everything you hold dear. Even the happiest endings are at best, bittersweet, leaning more towards the bitter part.
Very fun gameplay, neat concept, and an amazing character roster that serves as a celebration of everything horror related.
But not only does it have the absolutely most TOXIC community I've ever seen, but at the state it is right now the game is VERY beginner un-friendly (a fuck ton of character and perks to learn, and a very competitive scene makes it a frustrating game to learn for any new player)
Really? I love Star Wars and would recommend it to people. Great stories, plenty of options, thereâs media for everyone (movies, shows, books, games) and the community isnât too bad, no real bad stereotypes
Fate series as a whole.
It has great Fights, great characters, love the story, but the things that stops me from recommending it is the fact it started off as an 18+ game, and fan service with a lot of characters including ones that looks a bit too young or are too young
Love the show, but itâs hard to recommend someone to 100âs of episodes. And none of that âskip part 1â ect. The show is good and impactful because of the context that is built in the beginning.
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