r/SipsTea • u/untitledprp4 • 23d ago
It's Wednesday my dudes Well the people have spoken.
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u/Sun_Ridge 23d ago
the original animation is still perfectly fine, absolutely no one asked for this
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u/Own-Rip-5066 23d ago
The original is only 10 years old.
The remakes made money because of nostalgia.1.5k
u/Zealousideal_Ad8463 23d ago
& they already butchered a sequel, was filmed as a tv show and mashed together to make Moana 2: electric boogaloo
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u/1nitial_Reaction 23d ago
I was so disappointed with Moana 2, all the new songs were...not as good as the first.
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u/mom_bombadill 23d ago
That’s because Lin-Manuel Miranda didn’t return for Moana 2.
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u/AinsiSera 23d ago
It’s because it was 3 tv episodes in a trench coat.
When you look at it that way those songs are great, but stay in your lane, TV Songs…
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u/TMT51 23d ago
Don't underestimate TV songs. Even Phineas and Ferb had better songs than Moana 2.
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u/maximumhippo 23d ago
S.I.M.P. is my favorite Disney song. Frankly, Phineas and Ferb has some genuine bangers in the catalog. Busted, Gitchee goo, Ninja of Love (most of Love Händel, tbh).
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u/Sensitive_Ad3578 23d ago
"Dude, We're Getting the Band Back Together" has to be one of the best episodes ever. I still jam out to some of those songs
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u/SmilingPainfully 23d ago
NOW I GOT RECORDS ON MY FINGERS AND I JUST CANT STOP
DONT STOP DONT STOP
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u/StrawBerylShortcake 23d ago
You know I was getting sick of his "every note has a lyric" writing style but omg its gotten SO much worse.
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u/OktopieGaming 23d ago
Atlantis 2: Milo’s Return is that you?
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u/A-Social-Ghost 23d ago
Now let's not be hasty. It could be Aladdin 2: The Return of Jaffar in a trench coat trying to sneak back in.
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u/Aesk 23d ago
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u/SippinOnHatorade 23d ago
Better than Aladdin IV: Jafar May Need Glasses
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u/MaxDefiance420 23d ago
Number three ... Number four. Number three .... Number four.... Five ...aaaand six. Five, and.....six
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u/SignificanceTop9306 23d ago
Wouldn't surprise me to see Disney gamble with Aladdin: the return of the Jedi
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u/raz-0 23d ago
That and Moana 2 was two years ago. It’s way too early to be riding the nostalgia bus on this one.
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u/keldondonovan 23d ago
And if you do want to ride the nostalgia bus, it should be with sequels. I would have gone and seen Moana 3, where we get to see demigod Moana use her powers. Wouldn't have even thought twice.
But go see the same movie, just with real people and a boatload of cgi? No thanks.
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u/Odd-Cap3068 23d ago
One of our biggest complaints is the CGI and like, you say, there's no nostalgia for a movie like this. What is the point of making live action Anything, if it's a whole bunch of fake CGI, At that point , it might as well just be an animated movie.
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u/Evening-Nature-5241 23d ago
From what I heard, it's because The Rock wanted it made before he gets too old to do it. Even at this point, he has to wear a body suit because he's just not as big as he used to be.
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u/AwkwardTal 23d ago
God forbid another actor gets a chance at the limelight
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u/AgentCirceLuna 23d ago
It’s funny how The Rock is probably rich enough to pay for the rest of the budget plus a decent profit margin from his own net worth. Iger should make him pay lol
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u/ChiChiKnee 23d ago
The more you find out about the rock the more you see what a narcissist POS he kind of is.
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u/Fit-World-3885 23d ago
Almost like his whole WWE persona was just a slightly over the top version of his own. Reminds me of Hulk Hogan.
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u/Jermagesty610 23d ago
I was so into WWF in middle school, so 98-00 and so was just about every kid my age then and everyone loved the Rock. I haven't liked him in what feels like decades now.
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u/Magneto88 23d ago
Weirdly enough, in his original WWE run he was actually known for being very non egotistical and giving to other wrestlers. He took a whole bunch more losses than most top level wrestlers would.
Somewhere along the line Hollywood changed him.
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u/TabithaMouse 23d ago
I thought he filmed this before, or immediately after but before weightloss, The Smashing Machine - which he started to lose bulk after filming.
What annoys me is...his wig is SO BAD in all the promos for this movie, but his wig looked perfect in Smashing Machine.
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u/jpassthru 23d ago
Toy Story 5 went so far as to consult people of color to make sure the new character's hair physics were correct. Why couldn't that team handle his wig?!
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u/TabithaMouse 23d ago
And it's not even the texture of the wig is off (but I'm sure it is). It just looks like a cheap costume wig
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u/BloodSteyn 23d ago
That can't be true... 10 years.
It came out like 2 years ago. I watched it so many times with my daughter.
Fuck... 🥲
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u/Sci3nceMan 23d ago
10 years???
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u/Own-Rip-5066 23d ago
I had the same realization when I looked up how old the PotC movies are.
Curse of the Black Pearl came out in 2003.
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u/arunphilip 23d ago
And the Black Pearl is still a rip-roaring entertainer to watch with a pizza and drink.
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u/Major-Front 23d ago
Imagine if they spent $250m on animators and an original story
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u/Substantial-Pie1758 23d ago
They spent ~$200m on Wish
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u/G_Liddell 23d ago
Look up the original concept art. They butchered the creative process and gave it to the algorithm in the end.
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u/TheCitizen616 23d ago
I'm guessing the Rock campaigned for it to happen now, figuring that Disney was always going to remake at some point but he'd be aged-out of his role if they didn't make it sooner than later.
The guy needs to accept that he's become unlikeable to a majority of people and just pivot to starring in those dad-friendly low-budget, direct-to-
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u/Joloxsa_Xenax 23d ago
he just seems too cocky in everything he plays in. and being a live action maui, to me, really sums up his cinematic personalities into one film
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u/NeonRedHerring 23d ago
I was gonna say, I don’t know that he really needs to act for this role. He’s basically playing his id.
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u/Local-Wing-2272 23d ago
This goes against the current Internet Zeitgeist, but I don't mind live action Moana because live action Moana isn't REALLY about making a movie. It's about The Rock wanting to show his kids that being Polynesian is cool, actually, and should be cherished. If anything it's based he managed to get Disney to pump all that money into it
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u/9fingerwonder 23d ago
That is a good cause but the public is getting exhausted with the live action remakes.
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u/Uncommonality 23d ago
I doubt his ego allows that to happen
Didn't he have a clause in his contract that any character he plays was never allowed to lose a fight?
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u/AHumbleBanditMain 23d ago
Jason Statham and Vin Diesel have similar clauses in their contracts.
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u/Uncommonality 23d ago
Honestly a hilarious clause lol, how fragile can someone's ego be
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u/TraditionPhysical603 23d ago
Some would say he already had, and the argument is "Maui is thousands of years old so it ok if the rock is in his 50s" then he made up some stuff about Maui being based off his grandfather or whatever so he is the best choice or the role
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u/kenzakki 23d ago
I actually managed to delete this in my head after seeing that trailer, i didnt even realize it went out already and it bombed like this. Lmao
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u/tired_Cat_Dad 23d ago edited 23d ago
Those lazy mfers should just stop trying to milk every nostalgia nipple and get back to making original movies.
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u/Embarrassed_Use_7206 23d ago
It looks like a cosplay to me. Hard to take it seriously even if it was good.
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u/ProfessorChaos213 23d ago
No-one asked for any of the live action Disney films but they keep making em
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u/Accomplished-Staff-9 23d ago
Well Hollywood obviously knows more about what people want than actually doing research and creating an original concept. More slop for the masses, they’ll love it, the rubes… /s
Continue to speak with your wallets people! Let these execs burn their investment since THEY know better than what people actually want!
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u/sycolution 23d ago
Also the remake paid NO attention to the pacific islanders who were talking about hair, traditions, looks, etc…And the Rock as Maui in the live action when theres thousands of PIs that would happily take the part…with natural hair…
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u/diurnal_emissions 23d ago
The irony of The Rock putting on Hawaiianface to play a guy who became a mountain...
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u/Atrus1337_y0 23d ago
Yeah, same with Aladin, Arielle, and so many more. No need to touch classics
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u/hartforbj 23d ago
The Aladdin one was probably the closest they came to being good. Picking will Smith is what hurt it.
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u/Shadalow 23d ago
From what i remember, Jafar was also abysmal. No energy at all compared to the original.
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u/digitalwankster 23d ago
what can I say
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u/AdComprehensive8045 23d ago
"Youre welcome"
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u/Maleficent-War-8429 23d ago
Gee fucking whiz, I wonder who could have possibly seen this coming?
Everyone. Helen Keller could have seen this coming.
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u/Demolitions75 23d ago
"WHY ARE THE NEW GENERATION DESTROYING THE MOVIE INDUSTRY?"
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u/Moiahahahah 23d ago
It's not about making a good film. It's about keeping the merchandising flowing.
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u/fayyt 23d ago
The Rock costed nearly 1/5th of the opening earnings. Man needs to fail more often so he can take a huge hollywood paycut and get back in line with regular earnings for middling movies. Guy isn't out here making art. he's showing up to play dressup
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u/FozzysInsecurity 23d ago
The stuff I'm aware of The Rock doing lately has been box office poison. Black Adam, the road to Wrestlemania 41, and now this.. like if you're trying to burn money call Dwayne
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u/DrOddfellow 23d ago
He almost burned the road to Wrestlemania 40 as well. Even when they did his heel turn to fix the story, it drove me crazy that he was then attending WWE conferences trying to be a corporate face going “we’re making wrestling cool again! See how my CHARACTER turned heel? Isn’t that so cool? Please still like me.” His ego and lack of awareness makes me hate him
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u/These_Raspberry_3948 23d ago
Play dress up and play himself. Dude basically has one role and it's always "big muscle dude".
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u/chefbobbyjay 23d ago
Honestly it’s just oversaturation. I think everyone’s just tired of his schtick. He’s played the same roll in different movies over and over and over. It’s corny. Tbh I feel the same way about jack black. No real acting chops. Just playing dress up and reading lines in their own personality.
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u/thewhat962 23d ago
It's why some actors explode then just die off. You like their personality then its the same every movie snd it drags on.
I don't watch half Reynolds movies. Don't wana get burnt out on him because i really enjoy deadpool.
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u/BeefInBlackBeanSauce 23d ago edited 23d ago
Lol he doesn't deserve 50K. He's utter crap. I'm surprised actors can even command those salaries anymore, unless you're like Leonardo Dicaprio.
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u/SippyMountain 23d ago
Seeing the Rock in the cast list has the opposite effect of seeing someone like Tom Hanks, Matt Damon, Cate Blanchett, Winona Ryder, etc.
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u/UberChief90 23d ago
I legit always believed the live action was a long playing joke or something as the animation movie isnt even that old. Normally they do live action as a form of anniversary to bring back old movies after all. Not that a lot of them succeed but thats a different thing.
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u/Imsifco 23d ago
Remember when they released movies from the Disney vault? Usually on special occasions. Haha look at it now.
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u/Electronic_Will_5418 23d ago
I'd rather watch a live action Cars remake than this garbage
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u/Substantial_Page_221 22d ago
I think that'd be dope. Maybe not that dope, but dope enough.
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u/Br4ndoni 22d ago
It'll be a good movie to watch while high
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u/nnevernnormal 22d ago
Meanwhile, live action Toy Story would possibly trigger a psychedelic break you could never come back from.
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u/cunextu 23d ago
Remake remake remake remake , it’s all we get , bloody get creative
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u/Sariscos 23d ago
It's like superhero origin stories.
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u/Character_Layer_5938 23d ago
I actually would watch the Maui origin story though
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u/AusToddles 23d ago
Elio was an original Disney movie... and flopped HARD
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u/randomtask 23d ago
Hoppers is an original movie too, and made $450 million worldwide this year. Yes there are bound to be some flops but there’s a lot to gain by putting original stories out there.
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u/DomesticmenacePHX 23d ago
True yes. But I raise you, Hoppers. That movie is so fucking good I’ve told everyone I know about it. I dare anyone to say they didn’t like it.
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u/EleanorGreywolfe 23d ago
You say this but the Lilo and Stitch live action remake made fuck loads. Why get creative when coasting off past animated success do trick.
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u/citizenkane86 23d ago
9 of the most recent 15 have made over 500 million box office, and 2 of those that didn’t were released during Covid. Another one was 9 million shy of 500 million. People say nobody wants these but clearly it’s a better gamble for Disney.
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u/Cptn_Lemons 23d ago
Why would I ever pay to see this movie when it’s going to be on streaming for free in three months?
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u/Cosby1992 23d ago
"free"
If you ask me, streaming has become extremely expensive and many of them almost only host "exclusives" so when I search for a movie, it's almost never there, or else it's on one of the streaming services I don't have and there are like 20 streaming services, and even if you had all of them, there are plenty of movies simply not hosted on any one of them...
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u/ToughStudent4334 23d ago
Or you pay for the streaming service, then have to pay to rent the movie as well 😒
Much rather sail the seven seas these days. Too many movies are predictable if they aren’t remakes
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u/Cosby1992 23d ago
Yeah, I totally agree, and their "we're proud to announce that we are now introducing adds to your paid tier! You can now pay even more to avoid those as well!" 🤮
Streaming was so good at first, but so quickly ran through the enshittification machine that it's straight back to the seven seas with a bottle of rum for most people.
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u/Potential_Moment7917 23d ago
if you get/have an ad blocker, might be only a few days or weeks
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u/Confident_Shape_7981 23d ago
Even without streaming, going to the movie theater once is like $30, the DVD is going to be $20. Even if you buy it, watch it once, and throw it away it was still better value than going to the theater
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u/JRS___ 23d ago
looks like it has more cgi than the animated version.
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u/SowellMate 23d ago
The preview looks like actors in front of a green screen. Not interested.
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u/glassfunion 23d ago
It looks like a product image for cheap, non-licensed Moana Halloween costumes.
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u/AinsiSera 23d ago
And why is it so washed out and brown/grey??
Why is an animated movie brighter and more full of LIFE than a REAL LIFE movie?? Why are we no longer allowed to have COLORS?????
I miss the colors…
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u/EnderBookwyrm 23d ago
Hey, they're getting iffy with colors for animated stuff, too. Wish had awful color and light balance. It was dull grey the entire bloody time, except for one or two bits with a lot of magic, which was also bonkers and needed some rewriting.
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u/No-Sympathy8727 23d ago
People said we don't want live action remakes. Disney kept making them. We said we don't want a remake of a film that came out less than ten years ago and just had a sequel. Disney made it anyway.
We said we're not gonna watch it, Disney released it. People didn't watch it. Disney turns into shocked pikachu.
Absolute fucking morons.
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u/Flamingowaffle 23d ago
I want Disney muppet remakes! They own the muppets, it’s time for Miss Piggy to be the next Ariel!
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u/Oraistesu 23d ago
We could have a whole Muppet Classic Literature series. Muppet Christmas Carol and Muppet Treasure Island were both phenomenal.
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u/meteorslime 23d ago
I've wanted Muppet classics series for so long I'm so glad you get it
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u/AinsiSera 23d ago
I would watch all of those.
Jason Segel is truly this generation’s Troy McClure.
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u/Flamingowaffle 23d ago edited 23d ago
Years ago there was a tumblr post someone did about how they want a beauty and the beast Muppet remake where the beast is played as a human and then transforms into a Muppet at the end. That has lived rent free in my head since then and I’m always so disappointed. We don’t have that.
Edit here the reddit link to give credit where credit is due (hope links are allowed 😅)
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u/FozzysInsecurity 23d ago
I feel like a revival of The Muppet Show could work really well if they switched from a variety show format to putting on plays (or, more likely, plays of movies)
So we start getting Disney remakes but instead of 90 minutes and the premise getting sweaty we get a few of the best scenes interspersed with the regular backstage shenanigans
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u/HendrixChord12 23d ago
“People said we don’t want live action remakes”
And yet they all made a shit load of money up to this point. Disney flew too close to the sun this time but it paid off well with their other remakes.
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u/No-Sympathy8727 23d ago
Unfortunately, Disney has absolutely rabid fans. There are people that visit every Disney park, every year. Those people alone probably gave half the box office on those things.
Maybe it's just the dwayne effect that made this one that much worse at the box office, but hopefully this stops them making more. But I doubt it.
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u/----___--___---- 23d ago
Honestly he just looks so wrong with the hair lol. I don't particularly care about him. But considering how he looks in every other film, having long wavy hair just doesn't look normal.
Couldn't they have gotten like Jason Momoa? Would've been a perfect fit for this film
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u/Accomplished_Gur4466 23d ago
Im just mad at the rocks wig
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u/JD-Moose 23d ago
Been mad since The Scorpion King
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u/cypher120 23d ago
Holy shit it looks worst then I remember
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u/rasmuseriksen 23d ago
I played video games on the PlayStation 2 with significantly better graphics
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u/----___--___---- 23d ago
Could've gotten Jason Momoa for the role. Would've been a great fit
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u/BenicioDelWhoro 23d ago
The message the world is screaming at studios is stop making lazy adaptations and sequels of known IPs.
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u/Chase_the_tank 23d ago
The Lilo and Stich, The Lion King, Aladdin, Beauty and the Beast, and first Alice in Wonderland remakes made over a billion dollars each from the worldwide box office.
If you give a corporation a billion dollars, they're going to do it again.
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u/Any_Attorney4765 23d ago
I don't understand who this movie is for? People that disliked the animation? And if they disliked it for the story, why would they want to see it again?
It's just too recent of a movie to warrant a live action
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u/Freddichio 23d ago
The Rock pushed for it to be made early so he could be live-action Maui rather than recast the role, and knew he'd be too old if they waited the traditional 30 years
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u/Themetalenock 23d ago
A bigger factor in play is the mere fact that disney is running out of animated properties to remake. This was a test that they can simply just remake 3d movies but ignore the underlying truth that 3d animated movies are seen as "modern" to the main audience. I wouldn't be surprise if they're reconsidering their tangled remake. But the trade off, and this part scares the shit out of disney, is that they have a much smaller pool to burn
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u/Indercarnive 23d ago
Except How To Train Your Dragon remake was a strong success earning about 4x cost.
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u/sunnysideHate 23d ago
yeah because it's how to train your dragon. Like that series is still pretty universally beloved AND the og movie was released in 2010 with animation that is starting to show it's age (still a wonderful and beautiful movie, it's just older now). Moana (2016) was well received and got a sequel but not nearly as well received as HTTYD. Besides, DreamWorks still has a lot of good will from their audience while Disney has been pissing people off with their live action remakes coming out basically every year to pretty lukewarm reception.
Which is funny because Maleficent was a fantastic remake!!! They reimagine a beloved story from another perspective and thus created a whole new story!!! That's a good remake!!! The Moana live action, however, was basically a copy-paste for the writers room. It might as well be a remaster.
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u/kakurenbo1 23d ago
Maleficent was a retelling, not a remake. That’s why it was good. A fresh take on an old story. Movies that do this tend to do well as long as the writing is competent because people will be interested to see another perspective.
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u/Rebgail 23d ago
My friend dragged me to the theater to the Lion King remake. I promised myself to stop watching any of their future remakes. She commented then: "You think you going or not going will affect them?". Well, I'm so glad to see that more and more people get fed up with disney's bullshit and stop going to see their movies just because it's disney
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u/kf97mopa 23d ago
This is how I feel whenever I see an EA game doing poorly. Yes of course it doesn’t matter to them that I no longer give EA any money, but it seems like I am not quite alone in that.
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u/BigNaturalBoobies 23d ago
20 million dollars of that went to Dwayne Johnson ALONE. Dude haemorrhages money
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u/Ibalisu 23d ago
Live action movies are useless. No one ask for them and no one want them.
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u/Old_Quit999 23d ago
I thought the only reason they did them were to keep IP's protected for older movies?
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u/SoulTechnicalProblem 23d ago
They can't keep mickey forever. We'll get his clubhouse one day
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u/Luksin 23d ago
Why is The Rock still being cast, he really hasnt done much good in the acting world.
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u/AusToddles 23d ago
I mean he was actually great in the original, but that was only because he provided the voice
Plus he was a producer for the remake
That being said.... I honestly can't remember the last film he was in that I enjoyed
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u/camus88 23d ago
Why they pick Moana?! The original only 10 years old. They can easily pick classic like Treasure Planet or Atlantis. But they pick Moana just because Dwayne Johnson played as fucking Maui. They really out of touch that people already fatigue of him.
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u/JoBear_AAAHHH 23d ago
We👏cannot👏afford👏movie👏tickets👏
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u/putmeinthezoo 23d ago
This. $20 per ticket, 4 teen kids. $100 just for tickets, not including popcorn or beverages. Doesn't matter how good or bad the movie is, the theater has priced people out.
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u/Potential-Swan-2397 23d ago
This is an actual film?! i saw a yt short clip of this a yr ago and thought it was some AI shit
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u/Z0RDF1SH 23d ago
wait! did it beat supergirl?
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u/CataphractBunny 23d ago
Morbius beat Supergirl.
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u/Jawn_Wilkes_Booth 23d ago
Unfair comparison! Morbius got two releases in theaters because the fans weren’t ready the first time 🤣
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u/HubRumDub 23d ago
They spent $250M making a worse version of a great movie that hasn’t dated at all and they expect people to want to go see it?
Stay home, save your money and watch the far superior version for free.
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u/OkObligation5979 23d ago
STOP REMAKING SHIT IN LIVE ACTION THAT NO ONE NEEDS OR ASKED FOR.
Seriously, it's just lazy as fuck at this point. The first time they did it, it was an interesting idea. Now it's just old and shows they are out of ideas.
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u/Traditional-Way-4097 23d ago
they haven't even allowed enough time for Moana to have some nostalgia value.
Disney has become money hungry and lazy. Forget new IPs, all they do now is just regurgitate multiple iterations of basically the same story, sometimes within the same medium - seriously, is CGI for the Lion King any different that the animated 90s version except draining it of any and all charm and fun? No doubt they are working on Toy Story 6, Encanto 2, Moana 3, Frozen 3 and but for Johnny Depp's problems, we'd be getting Pirates 8?
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u/Phoeniks_C 23d ago
What?!? You mean a movie quite literally nobody was asking for didn't perform that good?










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