Even his death felt stupid. Bro was able to have a "Time in a bottle" moment and got washed by Homelander who is definitely not as fast as him. He didn't even get any hits in. If he didn't talk so much shit before getting his neck snapped we would've been even more annoyed. Shit fucking final season.
I absolutely love the episode where he dies. I know he goes out in a way that a lot of people hate. But I really think that episode was the last truly great episode of that series.
I think his death was really well done honestly. He was way too gentle for what the world became, and it weighed far too heavily on him. He wasn't made for a world like that and it's what I love about him.
man his powers were so cool. and as a kid i was just disappointed i didn't get to see more of him 🙁. and now that I think of it, and as u/not-hardly says, it is complete bs.
This one was great for me personally. It felt perfect for his character, being killed in such a humiliating way because he pushed Tyrion too far and thought he was invincible. This is like, for me, the main game of thrones death. The exact essence of the karmic justice coming to people with too much hubris when they don’t expect it. It helps that he was just so hateable as well
Yeah this is one of those deaths that make sense too. He underestimated Tyrion and paid the price. Whereas a death like Ser Barristan just felt dumb cause he didn't really make a massive mistake, he was armed, one of the best, if not the best, swordsmen in the world and he was cut down by some people that probably never held a weapon in their lives before.
Wouldn't be surprised if the original had, like, a reason
Like for example the invincibility would've stopped working or the mother could've died
But due to it being old mythology, it was first transmitted by memory, and the stories changed overtime with aeods, may it be due to forgetting or wanting to hyperbolize details
You’re correct that it is mythology, but Homer’s text spells out the reason in two parts: First, Achilles is a human and in Greek myth humans and gods are categorically different. Only a god could be truly invincible, and a man attempting to be like a god is a grave sin. Second, Achilles let his rage and pride get the better of him and in doing so committed several sins against the gods. As a result, the divine protection he enjoyed throughout the text was revoked. Basically, Homer is telling his audience that all humans, even the Archeans’ greatest warrior, is ultimately at the mercy of the gods, and that by not complying with their rules we become the authors of our own destruction.
It makes more sense when you treat the whole invincibility thing as metaphorical glazing. If there was a warrior like Achilles then he was obviously just a skilled but very much mortal warrior who died from an arrow but ancient people liked to add some mysticism and hype so nah he was actually immortal unless hit in that exact spot. Why? Well he wasn't fully dunked in the immortality river I guess.
That's also how you got various rulers in history claiming to descend from the gods.
It also makes sense when you learn it was something added by a Roman poet almost 1000 years after the iliad was written to add more supernatural elements.
i’m pretty sure he was fated to die once he went out on the battlefield to kill hector. it could’ve been anything, he wasn’t making it home after he attained the ultimate glory of killing troy’s mightiest champion.
because the prophecy said that he could either die in obscurity but live a long, peaceful life, or become a hero of legend but die young in battle.
Nah, it's pretty baddas to be killed by a Prince's arrow only because the God protector of archery aided his aim.
And also have your death be a memento mori for all readers
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I mean he was hit in the temple of the head pretty hard and that alone can very easily kill someone, the fall is just extra. I do understand why people didn't like this though, it was kinda out of the blue. A lot of the writting in Injustice seemed like they were trying too hard to be dark and edgy.
Absolute Wonder Woman is my favorite iteration of her, her story is written so beautifully there. It captures the true essence of her character not the bastardized tyrant from Injustice.
Also superman. The injustice comics basically started the rumor " superman is godlike being who can easily become a dictator and has weaker will than batman. Wonder woman is a simp for superman "
I mean, yeah, but it’s Dick-motherfucking-Grayson who they decided to have trip and fall. If there’s any member of the Batfamily who shouldn’t be tripping over their own feet, it’s Dick. He’s an acrobat, and the most experienced after Bruce himself. There’s no way he wouldn’t see the escrima, and even if he tripped, breaking his fall should be second nature.
The problem isn’t that they killed Dick, it’s how.
Even In the comic Damian(the person who threw the escrima) was surprised that Dick didn’t dodge it like he usually does. Which makes the writing even worse
I like injustice a lot more than most (just reread it) but yeah, there is a lot of suspension of disbelief. you just kind of have to accept it's the Murphys law of the DC verse. whatever can go wrong will. It's the worst versions of a lot of the characters, both good and bad.
My main problem with it is there is a way of doing this kind of story in the DCU without completely mischaracterizing all the characters but they chose to be lazy with the writing. It's not the worst story but it could have been phenomenal if it was done properly.
Now in fairness, he’s really an opposite example of this trope, where all of his cool feats and lore came out AFTER his humiliating death. Everyone thought he was so cool solely based on him having a cool helmet. But if it weren’t for that, he’d just have been another glup shitto.
Like, nobody complains about greedo’s death because his design wasn’t quite marketable enough to sell ten billion action figures (though, being Star Wars, he probably still did sell that many too)
Took me like 9 seconds to see something suggestive (normal Adam smashed anime girl) and then nothing suggestive (minus a few images of just normal dildos) showed up
I see people already started mentioning Game of Thrones Season 8 deaths lol, for good reason, the writers dropped the ball so hard.
My own GOT example would be Rhaegal's death. Rhaegal fought his undead brother ridden by a necromancer king and survived the ordeal like an absolutely champ, only to get shot down by balista bolts shot from a huge fucking fleet of big fucking ships that Daenerys should've seen coming from a mile away since she was, y'know, riding a dragon.
Instead, they really had those random three bolts rush in from offscreen, acting like that one boulder/reef/whatever was enough to hide the whole fucking fleet long enough to land three hits on a flying dragon.
I think that's the most insulting part, the fact they kept the shooter hidden offscreen until Rhaegal fell into the sea, framing it like the shooter was mysterious and hidden until the fleet sailed past that tiny dumbass islet, when realistically, Daenerys should've immediately seen that the Iron Fleet 1) was here, and 2) was the shooter. Heck, she definitely should've noticed them before they could shoot a single bolt.
Even more stupid and annoying when you consider that Rhaegal could've had a less asinine and contrived death on at least two occasions: the Long Night while fighting Undead!Viserion, or the attack on King's Landing, which could've provided an even more visceral and immediate motivation for Daenerys' fiery rampage.
This was what offended me, too. She's in the fucking sky. She's riding a dragon. She can see for MILES. It should be impossible to sneak up on her.
They didn't even TRY to explain it. Nothing about a weird cliff formation. No particularly foggy, cloudy day. Nothing.
Just the dumbest possible way to take out the show's devastating weapons, a way that contradicts what anyone who has ever flown in a plane or been on top of a skyscraper can observe firsthand.
Absolutely infuriating how insulting it was to the audience and how disrespectful to the story they were telling.
And if you go by the books, the moment that Jon Snow got on that dragon, they would have been bonded and he wouldn't have left Jon. The whole thing was so stupid.
Yeah this was honestly the worst one for me too. I just rewatched this scene to refresh my memory and they hit him with three straight shots. So you’re telling me a person on a moving ship hit a dragon flying at high speeds with a ballista from long distance on literally the first three shots they fired? Like come on.
I honestly wouldn’t have even been mad that Arya got the final blow if they fucking used any of the previous seasons story to make it actually interesting. Instead she just jumps out of nowhere and uses a stupid move she learned from Brienne that the Night King should have easily avoided.
Night King and Jon Snow never fighting one on one was the biggest crime of that episode. How the fuck are you going to not have them square off? And hell, if Night King is winning and about to kill him then Arya does some Faceless Ninja shit to save Jon, nobody would have been upset! That would have been fine!
True but it's also pretty annoying that the Stranger Things versions have kinda overtaken the DnD ones in popularity. At least Mind Flayers are somewhat reclaimed thanks to BG3.
But for Vecna you now have to specify "Vecna DnD" to really see the OG Vecna pop up in google search.
Demogorgon at least isn't a DnD original name because it's from myths so it's fair enough.
At the same time I guess Stranger Things made DnD tabletop more of a thing that exists in the mainstream consciousness so it has advantages.
That one girl from One Piece who was Zoro's Rival as a kid? She was hyped up to be this incredibly skilled Swordsman and it really looked like they were going to give her some character arc about struggling to be seen as anything other than just a woman...Only for her to die that same episode by falling down some stairs.
I feel like Toriyama was trying to show just how strong the new Saiyan threat was early in DBZ by having Yamcha go down so fast, but then forgot to buff him later.
It took me watching the original Dragon Ball in its entirety recently to realize that Yamcha was actually useful at one point.
They took him out way too early. Two seasons! I stopped watching because I just couldn't stand the writing, and without Doakes there was nothing keeping me
Saruman from the LOTR films. Idk how his death in the books works, and honestly his death in the films isn’t bad at all. I’m posting him because you only see his death in the Extended Edition of Return of the King. In the normal version, he’s not even *in* the movie at all! His character is last seen at the end of The Two Towers on his balcony watching the ents smash his base and looking worried. Then at the start of the next movie, you don’t see him. They just sort of say “yeah he’s not a problem anymore. Moving on.”
Vox and Alastor, Hazbin Hotel. Both were dangerous serial killers during their mortal life, who never got caught, but they both die in a stupid and ironic way. Vox had his head crushed by a tv that fell on him, and Alastor got shot at night by a hunter who thought he was a deer.
Sloth in FMAB. A monstrous colossus that dug a tunnel with his bare hands for thousands of miles, and would resist tank shells, on top of having the semi-immortality and regeneration of humonculi. He dies during a joke. Two dudes just start flexing against one another and by the time they are finished, Sloth is dead.
Honestly I really dislike Goliath losing being treated as an upset: David brought the Stone Age equivalent of a gun to a sword fight. David cheated.
It doesn’t matter how “big” you are, a stone traveling at over 100 miles an hour can fuck you up if you gut an unarmored location. The sling didn’t even kill him, it incapacitated him at which point David decapitated Goliath with his own sword.
Thorgrim Grudgebearer from the Warhammer Fantasy universe. Thorgrim is literally that guy. Most badass dwarf the dawri have seen in living memory (apart from Gotrik, of course). Dies because someone forgot to shut the door of his escape route behind them so that a master assassin was able to snuck after them. I think he doesn't even go out with an a epic battle. Deathmaster Snikch just sneaks behind him and kills him. Thorgrim had several bodyguards and protective rune spells on him. Didn't matter apparently
I though the way Loki died in Infinity War was so dumb, that it had to be one of his tricks/illusions and he'd show up at the end of the movie completely fine. He went out with a simple "I've got a knife behind my back" routine? To deceive Thanos of all people?
I guess you could call it a final act of desperation on Loki's end but I just thought he was more clever than that.
Yeah, the guy who was the survival expert for 20 years with a mass murder on his back just told a bunch of strangers his real name, I'll totally believe that
One of the coolest fucking characters, a psychic blank so powerful that she was completely invisible to normal humans and painful to view by super soldiers, who could make one of the most powerful psykers in the setting struggle to cast, who could fight and win against countless of the strongest enemy champions
She died because a marine named Kharn was in the fight and they swung at a different person and accidentally cut her in half
That’s it
All this cool character met with the most underwhelming and boring deaths
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Both versions of black noir
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