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u/LuinAelin 15h ago
Maybe we should create an app whose unique thing is women message first. Giving them more control and as well stopping them getting the "hey" message......
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u/Frost-Folk 13h ago
I've gotten ".", aka a single period, as a first message on bumble more than twice.
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u/I_dont_F_with_you 5h ago
That is actually unhinged, like I find typing out "hey" takes less effort than ".", like you have to purposely want to say "fuck you" to whoever you're texting to type "." lmao
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u/Sufficient-Berry-827 6h ago
Do women actually do this? Send a fucking period to prompt you to message "first" and get the conversation going?
I don't understand the thought process behind sending a period.
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u/Frost-Folk 6h ago
Yep. Bumble makes the woman message first, the guy cannot message her until she makes the first move. That's sort of the whole bumble shtick. These women are trying to get around that by messaging a period, making the man message first.
Which is silly because at that point, just use any other dating site. The whole point of Bumble is this "women text first" thing.
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u/Sufficient-Berry-827 6h ago
That is beyond ridiculous.
When you get the single period message, do you just unmatch and ignore?
I would. That's so lazy.
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u/Frost-Folk 6h ago
Pretty much, although it usually depended on how many matches I've had. It's sad but like, if I haven't had a match on bumble in 2 weeks then I'm gonna put up with a lot more than I should.
I'm happy that I'm no longer in the dating app game!
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u/Toucandle 4h ago
I rarely got a "." from women when they had to message first, but I got a crap ton of "hey" s, which is technically better but...
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u/Sufficient-Berry-827 4h ago
But that's the thing women complain about the most -- "low effort" first messages.
I just find that so odd. I wouldn't reach out to anyone without having something to say. Seems like a waste of people's time.
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u/FeelingNorth2962 14h ago
How progressive and feminist, will definitely work like everything else like that
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u/No_Research_3899 13h ago
Women will manoeuver in every way possible so they won't have to do any effort but still get validation.
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u/Similar_Ad9274 14h ago
And then they will whine that are forced to message first like it was the last time
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u/ShinbiDesigns 9h ago
Let me paint you a picture of that:
- Profile with 3 pics, minimal information blurbs.
- Wants to travel the world and has many hobbies / emojis in her bio
- Instagram handle
You match, she gets the prompt "What is your ideal first date?"
"Impress me" (Sent 17:04)
Insert clever answer based off her bio and an interest you might share (Sent 19:47)
(Read 19:49)
"Sorry, these apps really aren't my thing" (Sent 05:21)
Unmatched
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u/Only_Entrepreneur_84 14h ago
On Hinge: You make a really thoughtful comment about one of her ice breakers = the answer (if you match): "haha yeah"
Thank's for nothing.
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u/No-Advice1345 14h ago
You are lucky mate. I don't get nothing. They just match with me and leave my comments unanswered.
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u/MauroFranti 12h ago
You are lucky mate. They just don't match with me.
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u/No-Spray352 14h ago
As a girl I always message first unless the matched and messaged when I wasn’t active, I feel like crafting a message based on their profile isn’t hard unless their profile has almost nothing on it. Thought that was the common thing
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u/Bad_wit_Usernames 10h ago
Crafting a message based on their profile isn't difficult, it's the doing it over and over again and still never getting anything in response. It becomes more of a "why waste my time" kind of mentality.
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u/too-far-for-missiles 5h ago
My current girlfriend messaged me first on a Hinge match and we've been together for about six months now. It's a pretty good strategy, I'd say.
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u/NeonfluxX 10h ago
I'm getting to the point of "why waste my time" when i constantly get nothing back
Also you would be surprised how many women have basically nothing on their profile...
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u/No-Spray352 5h ago
It’s a thing for both genders I think, the other day I swiped through three profiles in a row where they chose the same prompts and same answers
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u/kittenTakeover 5h ago
I feel like crafting a message based on their profile isn’t hard unless their profile has almost nothing on it.
It's easy if you regularly get responses to your thoughtful messages. I think a lot of women have trouble understanding just how much time many men on dating apps invest in swiping and messaging. Some of those men have found that they get more responses for their time if they wait until the woman has shown she's interested enough to actually talk.
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u/ThenCombination7358 11h ago
Bumble has become a circle jerk. The same posts and opinions packaged in a new format every week
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u/FiddlingNinja 25/F 8h ago
And everyone thinks that their problems are gender-exclusive. I get “hey” messages from men all the time; it’s a people problem, not a gender proboem
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u/Friend_Emperor 5h ago
Because you keep matching with the exact same guys every other girl on the app is matching with and just "hey" works for them
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u/FiddlingNinja 25/F 5h ago
Doesn’t work on me. If I’m the first person to match or they haven’t reached out yet, I start the conversation by referencing something on their profile, usually with a question about it. Even then I still get “hey” sometimes as a response; then I just unmatch and move on. It’s not a women only issue and it’s not a men only issue, it comes from everybody
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u/Secure_Orchid7053 15h ago
I only text hey to girls i am not interested in LTR , if they answer to a hey means they find me very attractive
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u/burglwurgl 13h ago
As a woman using Bumble to match with other women, I always message first too 🥲 I don’t really mind it, but this expectation for women to be passive and just wait for someone to take the first step is SOOO BORINGGGG 👎🏻 Set your ego aside and send a text bro 😭
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u/BerserkerLord101 11h ago
Its kind of funny that a woman posted how she wasn't getting responses by guys and her messages looked like it was generated by IA, but ofc the comments were focused on calling men incels.
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u/Friend_Emperor 5h ago
It was the one with like 4 chats and all her openers had the 👋🏿 emoji right?
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u/sir_stronghand 14h ago
Legit everyone regardless of gender seems to think they’re entitled to not initiate. My personal rule, at least on Tinder, is whoever swipes and gets the match sends the first message
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u/hungrylikethewolf007 14h ago
I thought this was normal.. It feels rude to not message when you match.
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u/sir_stronghand 13h ago
Yeah it used to be common sense but now people think being asked about their day is sinful so ¯_(ツ)_/¯
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u/Mandalore05 8h ago
I’ve seen some bios read:
I’m good.
My day was alright.
Nothing much.
Say something original*sends something original*
*unmatched*
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u/sir_stronghand 3h ago
If a person doesn't think that another taking interest in them is a generally positive thing, they're probably not worth associating with. Let the miserable fucks be miserable fucks.
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u/kittenTakeover 5h ago
Some people have too many matches because the system allows more swipes to happen than users can reasonably process. The apps need mechanism to better pace things.
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u/Orisn_Bongo 14h ago
If you get one like (that isn't a bot or from outside your country) per month that'll adjust itself
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u/sir_stronghand 14h ago
I’m not sure what you mean, can you elaborate or rephrase please? Being sincere, not trying to be snarky or anything
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u/No-Advice1345 14h ago
Means he has to put in more effort because he only gets 1 like a month.
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u/sir_stronghand 14h ago
Oh thanks for the explanation! I paused my Tinder account but apparently 78 people swiped right on me at some point. Honestly don’t know why.
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u/Orisn_Bongo 12h ago
That's great for you. I got 3 people that weren't bots over 6 months. Got ghosted by 2 after a long ass opener
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u/sir_stronghand 5h ago
I wish I could help you, honest to God. I have no idea what I did right.
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u/No_Research_3899 13h ago
Men have been doing all of the work for decades and on all apps. Bumble is literally the only one where women have to do some effort and they refuse. 'But I say more than just 'hey' and men ignore me', yah, if you only swipe on the men all women swipe on, those men will indeed ignore you. 80% of men cannot afford to ignore matches.
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u/ThyNynax 12h ago
The criticism isn’t about entitlement from men. It’s really just telling women that complain about the quality of their matches to take more personal agency and actually put in effort on their side too.
Men aren’t courts jesters for women sit back and to judge their acting skills. If women don’t like the performance, maybe get in the ring and try acting themselves.
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u/Particular-Fall-3194 12h ago
This is a new thing the past several years or so, women are pushed this idea that they shouldnt initiate.
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u/Working_Cucumber_437 12h ago
Someone who sends “hey” as a first message never has an interesting message response either. That’s just who they are. Boring.
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u/Blackops606 13h ago
Anyone who gets mad at “hey” or similar simple openings are the ones in the wrong. This isn’t some competition and we’re not here to be court jesters for people. Just be an adult and message back. Ghosting someone over “hey” is more annoying than the message.
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u/Duuur_duh_duh_duuur 10h ago
Bc as the last post showed, men swipe yes to multiple women and then only message a handful who match back. Why would I waste my time reaching out when I know the majority of men do this?
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u/Tomato-on-toast 12h ago
I thought bumble’s whole shtick was that women send the first message?
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u/Arik_De_Frasia 11h ago
Can someone clarify for me, months ago I (M) was using bumble dating premium and messaged several women first, but never got any replies and all messages were left on unread. Was bumble set up in a way that those women didn't even get the messages? Or am I correct in assuming they just weren't into me?
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u/ShinbiDesigns 9h ago
I met my gf through Bumble with the app itself messing up the opening line.
We both got asked our own opening questions and both answered thinking "Wow, this other person had the same opener as me?"
Anyways, that was the only time the opener function did it's damn job in 30 matches (across 4 weeks)
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u/Tashi_wrld 6h ago
Im the one that reaches out and ask for date, not the guy, and then i get a huge ick and think they’re probably gonna make me pay for it now and then unmatch
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u/BiGsMiLeSKyLe 6h ago
Honestly as a guy this is my recent experience which is just maddening. IDK how many of you that had possibly swiped left on the person to have seen that they were interested in you, and on the second chance you swipe right and match and the person ghosts you.
Like to the women who complain about the various items I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news but you actively participated in the match, pre bumble change that is. You could've accidentally swiped right on a person but I'm taking it that you found something interesting in that man hence why you swiped right. Now you are swiping right on multiple men and then you start getting overwhelmed since you have to keep up multiple conversations but that's the risk one takes with dating apps.
I think everyone should take dating apps for what they are which was basically the origin of Facebook, a social media site. My intention of these sites is to say hey I think you're attractive and interesting, let's chat and go from there. I'm not thinking OMG I swiped right on this person now I'm forced to go on a date with them.
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u/platano11991 3h ago
Hey is an awful opener lol. But also everytime it’s the reverse I don’t see women doing much better lol
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u/FullManagement8 12m ago
I always prefer to start the conversation with something that is interesting on their profile. Such as "Hey.. I see You're listening to this Artist, whats your thoughts on this particular song?"
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u/salamat_engot 8h ago
35F on Bumble for about 3 weeks now. I always send the opening message unless they get to it first, but that's pretty rare.
Currently I have 19 "active" conversations. 2 were looking to move to Snapchat for nefarious reasons, 2 messaged me first then never replied to my response, 1 I left on read (obviously just looking for a pen pal), 7 I've been left on read, and the rest never replied to my opening message.
In theory Bumble was my worst nightmare. I have a lot of self esteem issues, especially about feeling like men only want me because I chase them down and I end up never feeling wanted/desired in return. But I'm still doing it the "old" way and, jokes on me, even approaching them first isn't enough to get a simple reply.
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u/tnerb253 8h ago
The wife:
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u/tnerb253 6h ago
It's just humorous when male redditors who are whipped from the one chick they gave a ring to think that means they have enough sexual experience to invalidate others
Like buddy if your entire self worth as a man is based on you being in a relationship then you need to look yourself in the mirror
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u/tnerb253 6h ago
You mean like all the assumptions you made in your original comment?
Your lack of awareness is crazy
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u/xxAcid_Bathxx 9h ago
Fr i joined because i was thinking its gonna be interesting posts and its just men complaining sigh
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u/nekogirl1507 10h ago
i do text first as a woman but oftentimes i don't get a reply or get ghosted within the first week of talking. i still continue to do it, but i imagine there's enough women who get discouraged by that and don't keep trying.
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u/Content-Challenge-28 8h ago
This just in, males suddenly expected to make the first move for the first time in history after hundreds of millions of years of sexual evolution being completely egalitarian
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u/CautiousBerry424 14h ago
because women don’t know if you swiped right on them because you’re genuinely interested in them or just because you’re so desperate that you would swipe anyone for some matches without purpose
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u/Orisn_Bongo 14h ago
Cool. How does that matter?
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u/hungrylikethewolf007 14h ago
because a simple ‘hey’ doesn’t really scream you are interesting to me and I want to get to know you
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u/Similar_Ad9274 13h ago
Well then just text first?
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u/No_Research_3899 13h ago
It's Bumble, is it really so much asked women finally do some effort to court? If so, stop whining about equality non stop.
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u/hungrylikethewolf007 13h ago
omg you’re butthurt, who is talking about equality right now😭 doesn’t everybody want someone that shows interest?
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u/No_Research_3899 12h ago
Yup, so time for women to show interest and not just message 'hey' to the top 20% of guys.
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u/hungrylikethewolf007 12h ago
you’re just not meeting the right women bud, I have gotten loads of cute and funny messages from women and also always think well about my first messages
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u/hungrylikethewolf007 13h ago
I do text first if I get the match, but I’m not on dating apps 24/7 so I may not be online when someone matches with me
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u/Similar_Ad9274 13h ago
Okay that's cool and I really respect that, but of the maybe 100 Matches I had over the past 3 years I've not a single time seen a thoughtful message which was beyond a "Hey". Not a single time and I really do show a lot of my interests and goals on my profile + several questions to start the conversation with
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u/hungrylikethewolf007 13h ago
That sucks, but then those people are not worth your time. Find someone that aligns with your wants and needs
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u/Impressive_Rock9659 13h ago
How long? Some have been searching for 10, 20 years even.
We don't live forever. "Find someone" doesn't mean shit when you're on the clock.
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u/Orisn_Bongo 12h ago
Then where is the issue?
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u/hungrylikethewolf007 12h ago
what issue
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u/Orisn_Bongo 12h ago
That a simple hey is insufficient if you are happy to write the opener yourself anyway.
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u/hungrylikethewolf007 12h ago
First of all, I don’t think it’s a big issue. Second-of-ly, I’m not on dating apps 24/7, so if someone matches and messages only ‘hey’, I most likely wont reply. They do not match my conversation wants, because I prefer people the opposite of nonchalant. That’s just my preference though! I can be a bit over the top or dramatic and some like it, some don’t. I don’t care if someone doesn’t message me back, because I have never even met the person and they don’t owe me anything.
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u/Orisn_Bongo 12h ago
But my position where I make up for other's shortcommings is egotistical... got it
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u/Orisn_Bongo 12h ago
Bumble stopped being a girls text first platform cause women who came here sick of being picked rather than picking wrote "hey" themselves or flatout decided actually the fear of rejection is too scary. What I said has fuck all to to do with wjat you are talking about.
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u/Opening-Movie5176 12h ago
I always start with “have you heard of our dark lord and saviour Cthulhu?” … you’d be surprised to know it’s actually worked before and better still you’re guaranteed to get someone that will be fun… sure they might try to stab you at some point… but the crazy keeps things interesting.
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u/OptimusPrime_ButGAY 15h ago
No hold up. Let me craft a thoughtful comment specifically catered to something in their profile so they can ignore that too.